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RedneckRambo
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Posted: 11th Jun 2008 05:05
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Anyone seen this game yet? It's going to be the greatest game the world has EVER known.

http://darkfallonline.com/

Go watch some youtube videos of it too. OMG I can't wait for this game to come out. No one will play any other video game when this comes out because this game is so FRIKIN AWESOME. Okay maybe that was a teeny exaggeration. But this seriously will be the greatest game ever.

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Will it cost anything?

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I'm sure it will. It's only in closed beta right now so it'll probably take like another 8 months before it's fully released. But if you watch the videos, who wouldn't pay for it? lol

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Looks cool.


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Took one look, saw some dragons, discovered it's an RPG. Passsss.


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looks ok...the greatest MMO coming out is guild wars 2 =)

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RedneckRambo
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I was never able to get into guild wars.

This game is basically Oblivion turned into an MMO. I can't wait. It has fighting similar to Oblivion and "leveling" similar to Fable (not actually leveling it's just getting stronger skills and what not.)

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Posted: 11th Jun 2008 13:06 Edited at: 11th Jun 2008 13:07
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It will fill up with little kids with their noob slang in no time and drive us civilized gamers out...

EDIT: I looked at it, sounds EXACTLY like lineage 2, and that totally got very low scores when it came out.

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Posted: 11th Jun 2008 20:08 Edited at: 11th Jun 2008 20:08
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Why does every game nowadays have to be a MMO? Why not make it non-multiplayer like Oblivion. Oh and their races look like somewhat of Oblivions.
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Oolite
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Bah! Not another MMORPG.

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Posted: 11th Jun 2008 23:13
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Quote: "It will fill up with little kids with their noob slang in no time and drive us civilized gamers out..."

That's okay though because you can attack everything, anytime, and anywhere. So if a noob pisses you off just rip his head off.
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EDIT: I looked at it, sounds EXACTLY like lineage 2, and that totally got very low scores when it came out."

Lineage was very kiddish. Way too cartoonish. Darkfall is going to be for older people and it's a much more mature of a game.

Quote: "Oh and their races look like somewhat of Oblivions.
Alfar¬"

Quote: "This game is basically Oblivion turned into an MMO."


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Posted: 11th Jun 2008 23:48 Edited at: 11th Jun 2008 23:53
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Quote: "Why not make it non-multiplayer like Oblivion. Oh and their races look like somewhat of Oblivions."


Simple, these types of RPGs like copying the image of High fantasy which derive from Norse mythology, Norse mythology had a series of races - human, god, giant, front giant, elf, dark elf and dwarf. Of course Orcs were an addition made by fantasy writers. Still it doesn't excuse re-using the same thing over and over. (I guess this is all because Tolkein used the world of Norse mythology into Middle Earth, even the word 'Middle Earth' is taken from their mythology, or as translated into their language 'Midgard'.

This is probably not a game I'll play, simply because I don't want to put up with some of the annoyances (I always find MMORPG servers annoying and I don't like monthly subscriptions. The only MMORPG that I didn't find boring and didn't have servers problems decided to add a monthly fee) and the only MMORPG I'll play is Runescape - if I want bonuses, I'll pay £3, if I don't I still can play it. If I want Tolkien-esque High Fantasy, I've got Dark Messiah (And Might and Magic VII - but that runs so fast I can't do anything with it), Neverwinter Nights, Morrowind and Oblivion. (I've not bought the othes



If it's free, however, (or if there's a demo and servers are free) I'll be more open minded about it and see how it compares. Admittedly it looks good.

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I'm not gonna say anything about the game itself, 'cause I can't be sure how great/suckish it'll be. However, I know for a fact that I won't be playing it for one reason and one reason only:

Annoying 12-yr Old #1: hye j01n mi gild i'll giv you a billion golds if u doo

Annoying 12-yr Old #2: no wayy u dont h4v3 a bilon goldz i no cuz i haxed ur account and newayz i alredy hav a bilin gold

Bot: Come to [insert pron site here] and get horny today, free of charge!!

Bot #2: Get all-natural male enhancement drugs at [insert spyware-infested site here]!!!!!

Annoying 12-yr Old #3: oh noz my momm sawd m3 l00kin at nud3 p1cs n0w she gonna ground me

...yeah.

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O! oo! You forgot us!

Average player: Wow... this sucks. I quit.
[average player signs off]

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Quote: "Annoying 12-yr Old #1: hye j01n mi gild i'll giv you a billion golds if u doo

Annoying 12-yr Old #2: no wayy u dont h4v3 a bilon goldz i no cuz i haxed ur account and newayz i alredy hav a bilin gold

Bot: Come to [insert pron site here] and get horny today, free of charge!!

Bot #2: Get all-natural male enhancement drugs at [insert spyware-infested site here]!!!!!"

That's the best part though. If someone is being annoying you can just kill him. That will shut him up guaranteed.

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I am sure there are safe zones like towns and such, or else people would just go around killing all the noobs while they were trying to find quests and what not. That would seriously hurt their subscriber base. All the spammers will sit in safe zones.

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But if that's the case they would have different chat channels.

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*sigh* why does after every released MMO everyone was "waiting" for, a new one come out which everyone is "waiting" for... Just get yourself a copy of a proper game and start playing that... Morrowind or something... Its fun, enough to do. And there is a multiplayer mod.(And no bloody subscription fee's)

I think they should just make ONE good MMORPG, and then keep it with that one.(Though its likely they will all just follow the same concept and with the same features over and over again...)

EDIT: And people... STOP USING THE SAME CLASSES/RACES IN EVERY GAME! Come on! Try to use your imagination for once! Its so easy to just say "Ehhh... I can't think of any race, so lets just call it an Orc."
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Quote: "But if that's the case they would have different chat channels."


So? The bots would populate any and every channel. Even if you had to buy something to talk on a special channel, the bots would be on it. There is really no way to stop spammers.

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Quote: "That's the best part though. If someone is being annoying you can just kill him. That will shut him up guaranteed."


No, most cases that 12-year old plays all day and is really good, so he will kill you.

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This is a game design forum and none of you like MMO's lol? What's up with that?

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MMO's aren't games. They are social networking clients with bling.

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Quote: "MMO's aren't games. They are social networking clients with bling."

Haha, pretty much true though.

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after finding out that this game has been in development for SEVEN years, i doubt it will ever get off the ground... (and they still claim it to be next gen ) the graphics are definantly starting to show their age imo

The concept is really nice about it being completely free, but i could see its community failing drastically. the videos are all old it seems, with buggy looking combat, and no actual HUD or other interaction occurring. maybe its supposed to be a "surprise" all you can see is people running around or riding horses

this game sounds more like a dream than a reality that will make it to the market

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Quote: "the videos are all old it seems, with buggy looking combat"

The videos are considered ancient now. The game is near complete. It's in closed beta right now and expected to be out before 2009.

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I don't see why everybody is so against the whole MMORPG genre. Some games can be fun. This might be one of 'em.

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I don't get it either.

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Quote: "I don't see why everybody is so against the whole MMORPG genre."


Maybe because they all look similar to one another?


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For me it's the communities. Also monthly payments kill it too.

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Quote: "Maybe because they all look similar to one another?"

Agreed.


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Quote: "Maybe because they all look similar to one another?"

So Eve online looks like every other MMO? Interesting.

Darkfall looks nothing like any mmo released yet. Someone said something about lineage but it's nothing like it at all. The only similarity between all the other mmo's and darkfall is they are fantasy based. The gameplay is in no way similar.
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Also monthly payments kill it too."

That part gets me right in the chest everytime. Everytime I make a payment I feel this sharp pain in me lol.


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I like MMOs, the only reason I've never played consistently is because of the oh-so-hated monthly fees. The few free/one time payment MMOs out there aren't to my taste, unfortunately.
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Quote: "I like MMOs, the only reason I've never played consistently is because of the oh-so-hated monthly fees. The few free/one time payment MMOs out there aren't to my taste, unfortunately"

Ya same here. I was fairly consistent with World of Warcraft but there were definitely some months I didn't play because of the payments.


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Quote: "So Eve online looks like every other MMO? Interesting."


Are you trying to be annoying? Last time I checked EVE wasn't a fantasy-based MMOG. Almost all of the MMOGs are based on fantasy (magic, dragons, wizards, etc.)


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Quote: "Are you trying to be annoying? Last time I checked EVE wasn't a fantasy-based MMOG. Almost all of the MMOGs are based on fantasy (magic, dragons, wizards, etc.)"


He never said anything about fantasy based MMO's and you said because they are all the same. Which is why I said...
Quote: "So Eve online looks like every other MMO? Interesting."


You are against the fantasy based genre. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about MMO's. Though most mmo's are fantasy based, EVE isn't, therefore I said that statement.


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Jeku is right, ALL OF THEM LOOK THE SAME. Just sometimes with different themes, but all MMOs consist of are Noob Speak, Kids wanting the best and people killing people for the fun of it because they completed the quests. I don't believe anything is different.


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Nope, sorry, no disrespect meant, but I agree with Jenkins here. The fact that the genre is filled with look-a-likes of sub par quality does not mean we should just overlook the good ones. Also, the EVE remark was quite valid. In any case, Darkfall doesn't appear to be any special in my opinion.


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On a totally unrelated note, I blew 60$ on Vanguard: Saga of Heroes when it came out. Damn what a waste of money that was...
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever tried age of conan lol?

I've been hearing good things about it.


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guild wars had no monthly fees...yes a lot of MMOs look the same...i have a good idea for an MMO but i need to learn programing first, i need to get a good program(FPSC doesnt work good for making MMOs) and yeah.


also darkfall looks very cheesy....i watched the video..the char models are like old and lame looking and the fighting looks dumb...very cheesy


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Quote: "also darkfall looks very cheesy....i watched the video..the char models are like old and lame looking and the fighting looks dumb...very cheesy"

Those videos are 2 years old. Everything you see has been graphically updated... well they say it has been.


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they put videos out there of the current build of it.....i mean..the website hasnt change much when i first looks at it( a few years ago)


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Oh I see. Well graphics is actually the last thing on my mind about this game. It's the fact that it is all skill based. Every MMO I've played has just been based on your items which is stupid. Every game should be based on skill aside from pure strategy games.


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Quote: "Though most mmo's are fantasy based, EVE isn't, therefore I said that statement."


Notice I was talking about MMORPGs, not exclusively all MMOGs. I used to play Second Life and know fairly well that it's not an RPG. But take a look at all the commercial MMORPGs out there and you'll find most, if not all, are fantasy based, and they all have the same founding principles of gameplay.


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Quote: "EVE Online - a massive multiplayer online roleplaying space game ..."

Google Eve online and that's what you get. I'm sorry Jeku but Eve IS in fact an MMORPG.

Though I don't disagree that is like the only exception.


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Yeah I'm not sure what Jeku is arguing here; nobody mentioned fantasy games, just MMO's. Although truthfully, in the few MMORPG's I've played, I've never really enjoyed them. My guess is that they're all trying to copy WoW, because of it's wild success.

At any rate I highly doubt this is going to be "the greatest game the world has EVER known."

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What Jeku is implying is that all MMO's are the same, they are fantasy based.


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And that as simply wrong, as previously pointed out.

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Oh and the controls and styles are all the same like you just click on your attack etc.


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Double post, Darn you Apollo!
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