Quote: "Why do people have this up-tight attitude to music?
If you like it listen to it."
Who does? I don't think anyone here was up-tight about music in general, we were asked to comment on this track and we did. I like Will Smith's older rap music thus I fit the 'requirements' to comment. I consider myself open-minded to music, but there's only so open-minded one can be without being brain dead, every single track of modern rap I've heard is terrible, like this. I'm sure most of the earlier/new rap was good, and original, but when you rely on vocals there's only so much you can do before it becomes the same recycled thing.
Quote: "If you think all rap is uncreative..."
I don't think
all rap is uncreative, as stated earlier, I like Will Smith's work, it was original and creative; However ALL modern rap isn't(that I've heard at least, doubt I'm wrong).
Quote: "Throwing away a whole genre of music just like that is just silly, I feel sorry for people who do that, maybe because it doesn't fit into their image or scene or whatever, I don't know."
Why is it silly? I've heard quite a bit of modern rap and can say that I dislike 100% of everything I've heard, even the 'Guru' you mentioned earlier doesn't trike me as anything like jazz. Listening to all modern rap is just an insult to anyone's intelligence and is beyond annoying to listening to. I don't listen to things like classical music or jazz but I can appreciate the skill involved to write/perform it, and it usually shows, modern rap is the opposite.
Quote: "Its the same with rap to me, I can't stand the commerical rap and hip & hop thats around today, but rap in its original pure form, rhythmic chants (which are nothing new at all, these go right back to roots, people) trying to convey real life down to earth messages, can be interesting and enlightening."
Perhaps, but you're saying that rap has now evolved away from what it used to be(good?), and that because it used to be good we should still consider it as such? As it stands, all modern rap I've heard is abysmal, so I think it's fair to say rap is bad.
Quote: "Listen to the rhyming you hear in EPMD's first album, that is nothing but skill, if you want to tell me you can write poetry like that, and its uncreative, I simply do not believe you. Listen to "Lock Dewn" from Cypress Hill's 'Black Sunday' if you want to call ALL rap music, uncreative looping of tired samples after listening to that track, then I again simply do not believe you."
You're just listing older songs though aren't you? All modern rap I've heard is just terribly written random words stringed together with a very repetitive background loop that's 'sung' well.. it's just talked, where exactly is the skill in this process? It just seems like really easy to listen to, or 'simple' music that just copies everything before it, hoping to be as successful as their originators, only they fail at doing anything different.
