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Geek Culture / 19 year old kid locked up in jail for sarcastic joke.

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rolfy
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 11:22
Quote: "Well then I think you didn't see the sarcasm in it."

Yes he did...no wait....he didn't...
Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 11:34
Or did I?

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 11:48 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 11:51
Lost In Translation!



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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 14:59
Wow I get back from work and this has gone from 2 to 6 pages.. There's lots I'd like to comment on but it's really too late as it's all been discussed at length.

BUT what I will say is that there seem to be a LOT of people who don't know or really understand what sarcasm is.

I've also found it hilarious how the media spins things to do with 18 and 19 year old. When something bad happens to them they're 18 year old children but when they commit a heinous crime they're 18 year old men.
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 15:02
Quote: "I've also found it hilarious how the media spins things to do with 18 and 19 year old. When something bad happens to them they're 18 year old children but when they commit a heinous crime they're 18 year old men."


I've noticed that too.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 15:15
Quote: "I've also found it hilarious how the media spins things to do with 18 and 19 year old. When something bad happens to them they're 18 year old children but when they commit a heinous crime they're 18 year old men."


that is indeed quite sad :/



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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 15:33
Am I too late for that popcorn?



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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 16:21
Quote: "i dont like popcorn "

30-day suspension of forum privileges for you.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 17:16


Somehow I get the feeling we were talking about something else? Something... about... popcorn?
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 17:18
The 19-year old wasn't eating popcorn! THAT is why he was jailed.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 17:19
Quote: "The 19-year old wasn't eating popcorn! THAT is why he was jailed."


^ this +1

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 17:23
Quote: "The 19-year old wasn't eating popcorn! THAT is why he was jailed."


It all makes sense now!!



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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 17:44
Ohh, well now that you put it that way, makes a lot of sense. You never trust these journalists, they've totally put the wrong spin on the whole story. It's all about the popcorn.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 18:07
I am about to commit to blasphemy and introduce something highly controversial here...



I swear it is all about the Popcorn, not the music...



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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 18:18
You know, they should really consider making bacon flavoured popcorn, because you know, bacon.



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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 21:54 Edited at: 11th Jul 2013 21:55
Quote: "30-day suspension of forum privileges for you."
Oh my, you scared me for a bit there!

I was getting ready to become mad, but then my post went through.
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 21:59
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Because you did not get 6 Months?

Did we not agree it should be 1 Year and a room full of Popcorn?

rolfy
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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 23:06
Quote: "Did we not agree it should be 1 Year and a room full of Popcorn?"
I disagree.
2 years in a room with no popcorn.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2013 23:53
Quote: "Oh my, you scared me for a bit there!

I was getting ready to become mad, but then my post went through."


Sweet...it worked!

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 00:49
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2 years in a room with no popcorn."


What the hell? Are you really evil enough to believe that a person should be expected to go without popcorn for 2 years? What is wrong with you?

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 01:38
I am the being lenient....if it weren't for the whiny bleeding hearts constantly on my case he would get far longer.
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Quote: "I am the being lenient....if it weren't for the whiny bleeding hearts constantly on my case he would get far longer."


You bastard!



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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 02:01
Quote: "Testing my new signature..."


WIN!

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Anything that replaces sexual teenage pony stuff with popcorn is "win" in my eyes.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 02:39 Edited at: 12th Jul 2013 02:43
Quote: "Wow I get back from work and this has gone from 2 to 6 pages.. "


Same here - except I wasn't at work . Read the last few posts and you'll see why it's mushroomed. Isn't there already a thread for all this junk?

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=114323&b=2

[Edited punctuation - never too late to correct such vital details.]

[Second edit - fixed newly introduced punctuation error. It really is too late for me to be posting.]
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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 02:45
Quote: "Anything that replaces sexual teenage pony stuff with popcorn is "win" in my eyes."


I never thought it would happen.... EVER!!!! but I find myself in agreement with you.

I am the underground.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 02:48
Quote: "sexual teenage pony stufF"

Reported!
Benjamin
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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 02:51
Quote: "I never thought it would happen.... EVER!!!! but I find myself in agreement with you. "


What's that supposed to mean? You always felt threatened by me because all my posts have always been awesome, and you never thought you could match me? Well that's understandable I guess.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 03:01
Your posts have indeed shown a worrying trend of increasing awesomeness recently.

Anyone like to guess where this thread is going?
MrValentine
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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 03:10
Popcorn?

Benjamin
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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 03:24
Poopcorn?

Quote: "Your posts have indeed shown a worrying trend of increasing awesomeness recently."


Oh dear. I hope I won't be banned for this.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 05:23
Quote: "Reported! "


I call your report, and raise you a counter-report.

Quote: "Oh dear. I hope I won't be banned for this."


What are you talking about? You were banned from here YEARS ago; I still have no idea how you are getting around the super-secure ban filter??

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 06:19
Quote: "You know, they should really consider making bacon flavoured popcorn, because you know, bacon. "


done.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/cf26/

Shazam!
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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 06:20
On a serious note; he was just released on bail (provided by an anonymous donor). Story here:

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/07/09/texas-19-year-old-in-prison-for-sarcastic-facebook-post/

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 07:11 Edited at: 12th Jul 2013 07:12
Quote: "A Canadian national took a screenshot of Carter’s post and sent it to the Canadian Crime Stoppers Association, a non-profit which collects anonymous tips regarding possible criminal activity and passes them along to the police. According to the organization’s official site, Crime Stoppers pays out rewards of up to $2,000 to anyone whose tip leads to an arrest."

Well, now it makes sense, and apparently I have to edit in hyphens for MSNBC.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 09:32 Edited at: 12th Jul 2013 09:33
Quote: "San Antonio resident Justin Carter, 19, has been in prison for nearly four months. Carter says he has been assaulted repeatedly by other inmates and subsequently placed in solitary confinement. According to his lawyer, Carter is so depressed that he’s on suicide watch, meaning that the prison guards have stripped him of his clothes and replaced them with only a gown."



if this is true... then that's horrible, just horrible.

and..

Quote: "Carter’s troubles began on Feb. 13 of this year. During an argument on Facebook over the online multiplayer game League of Legends, some told Carter that he was “crazy,” according to his defense attorney, Donald Flanary III. Carter replied: ”I’m f—ed in the head alright. I think I’ma shoot up a kindergarten and watch the blood of the innocent rain down and eat the beating heart of one of them.”"



That does indeed seem - like he was answering sarcastically to that.



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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 10:01
One of the things that pisses me off is how the investigators have not even requested the surrounding conversation pieces from Facebook, according to the article. They know none of the context in which this statement was made. Kind of ironic how people here have argued that context matters so much (and it does indeed matter) and yet the authorities don't know the context. Makes me feel really proud of our system.
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One thing I wanted to touch on; was the various statements that he was "stripped naked" and left in a cell.

Fist of all; leaving anyone "stripped naked" is not legal. When we place someone in segregation on suicide watch; we first place them in a cell with a camera in it (we have several set up for that), which they occasionally smear with their own poop...so we can't see what they're doing. In that case; we have to go in, restrain them, and have a cleanup crew come in.

The inmate is stripped of their clothes (even underwear), then placed in a segregation suit. This is done to protect the inmate. You don't need to hang from a rafter to kill yourself; it can be done (and has been done) by simply wrapping your underwear around your neck (after tying it to your bed) and lying on your back. Asphyxiation will do the rest. The suit we use is designed, so that it can't be used in such a fashion. Anyone and everyone who is designated a suicide risk is dressed as such. In addition to the cameras; we perform regular rounds, with eye to eye contact on those inmates.

It irritates me to see a few uninformed "authors" that try to dramatize that point, and make it out to be something devious. I have worked segregation before, and been around these people. When you see someone playing chess, with pieces crafted from their own feces...you've reached a new level in your life.

Aside from suicide watch; any inmate entering a jail or correctional facility, is strip searched....no exceptions. This is done to prevent contraband from being introduced into the facility. Anything from drugs, to cell phones, to weapons, can come in this way.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 15:46
Even without the lol at the end it wasn't a crime.

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I suggest you check out the penal code that I laid out in a previous post in this thread, Pincho. It can, in fact, be considered a crime...by the letter of the law; whether we agree with it or not.

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Quote: "I suggest you check out the penal code that I laid out in a previous post in this thread, Pincho. It can, in fact, be considered a crime...by the letter of the law; whether we agree with it or not."


There is a reality to crime that isn't written on paper....

Burn the witches!!!

Witches don't exist, it isn't a crime. If it's on paper "Burn the witches." It still isn't a crime.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 16:06
Quote: "If it's on paper "Burn the witches." It still isn't a crime."


It was a crime 200 years ago, just as much as it's a crime to be a "terrorist" today.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 16:07 Edited at: 12th Jul 2013 16:08
Quote: "It was a crime 200 years ago, just as much as it's a crime to be a "terrorist" today."


Exactly! That's what I said. It isn't a crime now, and a crime is a crime with no end.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 16:09
Quote: "There is a reality to crime that isn't written on paper....

Burn the witches!!!

Witches don't exist, it isn't a crime. If it's on paper "Burn the witches." It still isn't a crime."


When you want to actually have a conversation, then we can talk.

Unless, you were being sarcastic...in which case you forgot to add the "lol, j/k" at the end. If this is about popcorn, that's another story.

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Quote: "When you want to actually have a conversation, then we can talk."


I had my conversation.. it isn't a crime.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 16:13
I suggest you read this again.
Quote: "I suggest you check out the penal code that I laid out in a previous post in this thread, Pincho. It can, in fact, be considered a crime...by the letter of the law; whether we agree with it or not."


And now go look for that quote. Because you appear to be lazy, here it is:
Quote: "Texas Penal Code as applied to this case:

Terroristic Threat:
(a) A person commits an offense if he threatens to commit any offense involving violence to any person or property with intent to
(5) place the public or a substantial group of the public in fear of serious bodily injury
(e) An offense under Subsection (a)(4), (a)(5), or (a)(6) is a felony of the third degree.

(a) An individual adjudged guilty of a felony of the third degree shall be punished by imprisonment in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for any term of not more than 10 years or less than 2 years.
(b) In addition to imprisonment, an individual adjudged guilty of a felony of the third degree may be punished by a fine not to exceed $10,000.


Assault:
(a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(2) intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury
(c) An offense under Subsection (a)(2) or (3) is a Class C misdemeanor

An individual adjudged guilty of a Class C misdemeanor shall be punished by a fine not to exceed $500.

Harassment:
(a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to harass, annoy, alarm, abuse, torment, or embarrass another, he:
(1) initiates communication by telephone, in writing, or by electronic communication and in the course of the communication makes a comment, request, suggestion, or proposal that is obscene;
(2) threatens, by telephone, in writing, or by electronic communication, in a manner reasonably likely to alarm the person receiving the threat, to inflict bodily injury on the person or to commit a felony against the person, a member of his family or household, or his property;
(c) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.

An individual adjudged guilty of a Class B misdemeanor shall be punished by:
(1) a fine not to exceed $2,000;
(2) confinement in jail for a term not to exceed 180 days; or
(3) both such fine and confinement."


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Posted: 12th Jul 2013 16:14 Edited at: 12th Jul 2013 16:15
I said that writing something on paper doesn't make it a crime. The trouble is that you don't read what I wrote.

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