@DrakeX
"when people like neophyte, the masked coder, and heartbone go on and on and ON AND ON AND F****ING ON about how everyone else is wrong and they're the only ones who are "right" and that they're the only ones who see the "truth.""
So does this mean you hate Jimmy?
But you know what I hate? People who continuely bury their heads in the sand and make believe that anyone who disagree's with them is diluted.
"lastly, i'd just like to say that people like neophyte, the masked coder, and heartbone must be very sad, depressed people to think that the world is as horrible a place as they say it is."
BWHAAAAAAHAAAAAA
That's hysterical!
*wipes tear from eye*
You just made my day. Seriously.
"yes, there is bad sh*t going on, yes, there are murders and wars and terrorism and conspiracies - but sometimes you just need to STEP BACK and focus on SOMETHING ELSE, unless you want to be consumed by your eternal fear that the world is on the verge of collapse,
Oh, yes. It's my "eternal fear" that the world is coming to an end that makes Bush misguided.
"thanks to some barely-influential person sitting in an oval office hundreds, if not thousands of miles away."
Barely-influential? The commander in chief of one of the most powerful nations in the world is barely influential? Dude, you need to get back in touch with reality. Are you seriously telling me President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld are barely-influential?
Even you have to know that what you uttered is just absolute bunk.
@Jimmy
"Look, I take the word of my brother over yours."
You don't have to take my word for it. Just take the Senate Intelligence Committe's word.
"I think you're full of crap, you've got an ego problem and you have lost touch with reality, so there is absolutely NO reason for me to pay attention to what you have said."
Right. This coming from a guy who continuly insults people who disagree with him.
Try as you might Jimmy, you can't escape the fact that I'm quoting government sources. You can whine all you like that I'm out-of-touch with reality, but their are many people in the intelligence community that agree with me. Iraq is a mess and it's getting worse. If you think otherwise it's you who has lost touch with reality.
As to my alleged "ego problem" it has been and always will be my stance that if you think you are right, Prove It. Whining and Moaning and crying like a little girl doesn't make you right. Facts and Reason do.
I've openly challenged anyone here who thinks that Bush's policies are right to back that claim up with facts. All I've gotten so far was hot air apart from zircher's brief foray into the matter.
I don't see anything egotistical in trying to debate issues with facts and reason. I do see plenty of things egotistical in people who just ignore what people say and call them names if they don't agree with them. So Jimmy are you man enough to debate me? Or are you just going to hurl insults like a twelve year old?
There is a saying where I come from. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you don't have anything more to offer this debate you might as well leave.
"I'll never be angry with the decision to send troops to Iraq."
Even if it makes us less safe? There are roughly 18,000 new recruits for Al Qaeda because of our actions in Iraq.
"I'm disappointed with his administration, yes, but they still saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of people and are continuing to do so."
Hundreds of thousands from who? Saddam?
Under Saddam, in Badgdad last July 2002 there were 10 deaths from violent or suspicous means.
In July 2003, there were about 470.
In one month during the occupation they got about a year and a halfs worth of victims from gunfire. One month!
The current death toll for Iraqi civilians is estimated to be between 13,000 and 22,000.
As Eric T has noted, we've probably taken out more in 6 months then Saddam did in a year.
But at least you admit that there are some flaws in this adminstration I'll give you that.
"The reason for invading may be in question by stuck up politicians and left wingnuts, "
And let's not forget those on the right as well.
" but the result is the same and, despite our losses, a wonderful thing for that country."
At minimum, 70 percent of the people of Iraq view us as occupiers not liberators. Over half want us to leave immediately.
I don't think the Iraqis agree with you. But I guess the Iraqis must be out of touch with reality and have ego issues, huh?
@Kentaree
"Yes, everyone who said there were weapons there have been sacked,"
*sigh*
I assume you didn't read my rebuttal to that then? The only person who has left because of the WMD fiasco is former CIA director George Tenet. He wasn't sacked though he left voluntarily. The rest of the people responsible for the WMD, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz et al are still around.
If there is someone in paticular you had in mind that you think was fired, please, post his name and I'll look into that. I could be wrong on the issue after all.
"One of the worst people that could be president. He's stupid, doesnt realise it himself. However, I dont think he's evil, I think he sees the USA like its shown in 90% of movies, i.e. the great ruler of the planet, who everyone loves and who's job it is to police the world. Which makes him dangerous."
I agree. I don't think he is evil either. Simply misguided.
"My view on Kerry: A person who lets other people make his mind up (i.e. the voters), likes his money issues, and loves showing off his military status."
Yes, that does seem to be Kerry in a nutshell.
"I dont like either, however, Bush has had his chance, and has f*cked up. Someone mentioned that Kerry would pull back his troops and that the USA would then be labelled as cowards, my opinion on this is, what do you preferred, a "coward" label, or a "killers" label, whether justified or not?"
Wow. Someone who almost completely agrees with me. Spooky.
