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Ian T
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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 10:29 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 10:34
The topic should be warning enough . Before you get involved, keep in mind that everyone's entitled to their opinion and logic, unfortunatly, is not required by the AUP where politeness is.



A few quibbles with Mr. Rock's posts in a former thread.

A. You attack Bush over not looking into alternitive fuel sources, but where Clinton failed to do anything about the fuel problem, Bush has invested significantly in research into hydrogen energy.

B. You mention that the majority of the world is now very unhappy (to understate) with the US over the Iraq war as a reason to dislike Bush. Here's something I honestly do not understand: Why should the world's opinion of us be important in issues like this at all? Unless it sparks another war, our popularity should not be a factor whatsoever in deciding whether a politically incorrect action, or any action, is right or wrong.

C. From what I've seen, your argument about the Iraq war being for oil is as follows:

-The Bush Administration invaded for oil, failing to predict the extremely simple fact that you can't steadily export resources while military action is taking place. Thus the Iraq war was immoral and it is Bush's fault oil prices are rising.

Isn't it rather ridiculous to assume our strategists didn't predict that the Iraq war would hinder rather than help our current oil situation? And if the war was for oil, wouldn't we have started setting up the system to export it already? We have not siezed a drop of oil from the country from that country and the forces currently in power, despite heavy US involvement, have made it clear it's going to stay that way. Far as I'm concerned the war for oil argument became irrelevant a while ago-- in foresight it held merit, but it simply does not make sense that our government is not taking anything at this point.

D. Since when was 'Republican' a bad word? You use it like 'convict' or something. That's just rather weird, although I suppose it fits with the misunderstanding and misuse of 'capitalism' and the like that's becoming more common. Loaded words annoy be because they're so often used as a way of dodging around actually reasoning something out. And aside of that, I personally feel that, if we're getting into using terms as insults, democrat should be a far worse one.


P.S. I'm a Libertarian, not a Republican. [Obsolete comment now ]


Peace.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 10:40 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 10:45
Oh for gods sake Mouse, give it a rest. It is fine starting a debate about politics, however I'm not so sure rich would find it fine someone starting a thread just for the sake of bashing someone for their views on politics.

Matt has already agreed to stop talking about Bush, and this thread is just provoking an inevitable argument that always happens. Everyone has different views and opinions, and no one is ever going to actually give in because you all believe different things, yet you may all be wrong because I don't think many people know the truth about the war(I'm pretty sure none of us do, although I've heard some pretty likely thoughts).


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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 10:43 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 10:44
What the hell is your problem, Benjamin? I'm not bashing anyone, I'm engaging in friendly, open debate with someone which we're both interested in. Take a look in the mirror buddy.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 10:47 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 10:50
Yes, a debate that is uncalled for and not needed, and you should know by now that these always end in an arguement. You could have at least started a debate from the start, rather than doing the pre-emptive on Matt.

EDIT: Yes I know I edit my posts too much.

If a friendly debate between Matt and you is all you want, theres an invention called e-mail, it could save this community from a lot of arguments.


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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 10:50
Libertarian a? good ol' party with strong values of the right way of doing things. However, We may have gone to Iraq for oil, I truly dont know, I do know however Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. One would ask why we have found none. And the answer is, they are in Seria and possibly Iran, honostly do you think suddam huassain was doing nothing these past 10 years? (besides murdering thousands of his own countries citizens)

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 10:55
Well I heard he was writing ska.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 10:55
Quote: "I do know however Iraq has weapons of mass destruction"

No, you don't know. As I said before, we don't know. Its just, pointless.


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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 11:01 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 13:23
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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 11:09 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 11:12
See, now your trying to cause an arguement. Right anyway to set you straight, how many countries are in the world? How many of them went to war? I love your logic, its perfect for an IDIOT.

Quote: "Did your country run out off white flags or something?"

Oh ok, I assumed when people said England went to war too, that they actually did. Yes, England is my country, I was born there, but I am in no way proud of it. England's leader is an idiot and a coward for joining in with the war. Yes a coward, for not being able to say no to Bush.

Please keep cheap comments to yourself.


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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 11:23 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 11:23
I won't argue this time, I promise.
But we shouldn't be discussing matters such as this- we are the little people and have no clue what's what. None of us.
And Mouse, don't you lock these types of threads?

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 11:26
Yes, he does lock these type of threads, but seeing as its 'him' and hes a mod and all, its somehow allowed.


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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 11:28
Quote: "I love your logic, its perfect for an IDIOT."


That was mature. I feel inclined to post "i know you are, but what am I?"

Quote: "England's leader is an idiot and a coward for joining in with the war."


Yes, I can see why the other intelligent people were too brave to join the war.

I can see how you feel Anti-Bush, seeing as how you live in England, home of the most liberally biased media in the world. At least here in Southern CA, we get TBS.

If I remember correctly, France decided to stay neutral, so they wouldn't have to deal with this stuff. They were later attacked by a bombing.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 11:29 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 11:30
He lives in France

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 11:34
If I am anti-bush because I used to live in England and because I'm British, whatever. It only affects the people that want to get annoyed by it, and it sure doesn't affect me.

Quote: "That was mature."

Was just responding with an equal response to his post, nothing wrong in that, is there?


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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 11:34 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 11:38
1st of all:
benjamin, no one is making you click the link to this thread.

secondly, this following text is exactly my political position.

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If General George Patton were alive and President of the USA, this would be his Fireside Speech:

My fellow Americans:

As you all know, the defeat of Iraq's regime has been completed.

Since congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete. This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to begin the reckoning.

Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short: The United Kingdom, Spain (before they lost their resolve), Bulgaria, Australia, Norway and Poland are some of the countries listed there. The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the world's nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this evening.

Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war. The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world hell-holes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption. Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France.

In the future, together with Congress, I will work to cut taxes and solve some local problems. On that note, a word to terrorist organizations Screw with us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the earth. Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France, or maybe China.

To Israel and the Palestinian Authority. You, boys. Work out a peace deal now. Just note that Camp David is closed. Maybe all of you can go to Russia for negotiations. They have some great palaces there. Big tables, too. I'm ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France, Germany, and Russia. Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring from NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis.

I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to this. Pay your tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers, and limos be turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New York.

A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are going to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing us off for a change. Mexico is also on List 2. President Fox and his entire corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I have a couple of extra tank and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I'm gonna put 'em? Yep, border security. So start doing something with your oil.

Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty--starting now. It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens.


Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying darn tootin'.

Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet. It is time to cut taxes here because we will not be spending on other peoples problems.

To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thanks guys. We owe you.

To the nations on List 2, a final thought. Drop dead. God bless America.

Thank you and good night.

General George S. Patton
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1) Patton was much smarter than that.

2) I am so glad no one in this thread makes political decisions.

3) I think reading this thread has made me dumber.

4) Now I have a migraine from all the brain cells Ive lost reading this thread.
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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 12:15
im sorry you feel that way billy.
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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 13:01 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 13:06
This looks so familiar. It should be locked.
Seriously, if my fellow little men and I can't have our opinions, and you know what I'm talking about, then you shouldn't either, mod or no mod.
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Quote: "A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are going to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing us off for a change."


I agree. I feel that Canada's leader is arrogant and spineless. He pussy-foots around controversial issues in such a way where he pleases 50% plus 1 voter, just so he can say he's doing a good job. He's spineless in that he kept the US on hold for years on whether Canada would agree to the US missile defense plan. Finally he said no, because, according to him, the majority of Canadians don't want it. Rubbish.

But here's my favourite quote of all time regarding political discussion:

A man forced against his will is of the same opinion still.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 13:10 Edited at: 21st Mar 2005 04:40
Edit: If you look lower, You'll see I ended up posting. Can't ignore a debate...


I'd participate, but seeing that most of this community is a bunch of immature morons and people who have to communicate in every thread just so their worthless opinion shall be known, I shall not post my thoughts on the threads topic.

I'm sure mouse was meaning good when he made this, but certain f*cktards prevent that.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 13:12
Well, you still are posting your thoughts.
And there really was no reason to post in this thread at all if that's all you were going to say.

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Look at the history books on WW 2, as you can see, when the germans invaded the "neuteral" country of france, they welcomed the germans! welcomed!, for god sake what kind of country does that!?

also i edited out my earlier post as i feel it was inaprioproite.

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Quote: "A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are going to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing us off for a change."


What do you mean? Our countries are practically one! Why do we tick you off?

I have to put my opinion in on the War in Iraq:

Whats the big deal with the US (plus other countries) invading another country, for the good of that country? Iraq was a dictatorship, murdering thousands upon thousands of his own people. A true story i heard:
3 ladies were standing on a street corner in Iraq talking, a whisp on wind blew one of the sleeves of the womens long shirts up to her elbow. An Iraqi "enforcer" of Suddam Huiessen(sry on that spelling) went over and proceeded to beat her with a bat because of this. This was all caught on tape.
Is this fair? Is this freedom? Look what were giving them! Democracy, freedom, women are able to walk down the street and show their face now! And this is "wrong"? So many of these stupid US news stations are completely biased about the war. They only show the "roadside bomb kills 3", "firefight breaks out in wherever", etc. But do they show the films of Iraqi citizens kissing the American/British/some other countries feet? No. Do they show the little kids running up to the soldiers and hugging them? Do they show the crowds of Iraqi's around the soldiers, just to touch them? No. A very very large majority of the Iraqi's want us there! Ive heard of people whove known soldiers, who tell how it really is, the Iraqi's running up and hugging them, thanking them. And what do we get for it? World wide protest, because were supposedly doing the wrong thing or "just doing it for the oil", etc. Our media twists our conception of whats really happening. Also you should support our troops, i mean how would you feel if you were out risking your life for others, while being criticized? Thats like booing a firefighter as he goes into a burning building, and criticizing him. Even if you dont think we should be fighting the war, still support it, get over it, were winning, and we are going to win.

GO USA! GO UK! FIGHT FOR FREEDOM!

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 14:33 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 14:38
A leitinant who is there stated, forgot the specifics, that we are losing the war. Bush says we're winning, and he's sitting on his ass here.
Quote: "But do they show the films of Iraqi citizens kissing the American/British/some other countries feet? No. Do they show the little kids running up to the soldiers and hugging them? Do they show the crowds of Iraqi's around the soldiers, just to touch them?"

But do they show the pictures of what really happens to some of the soldiers in the war? No.

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Quote: "Look at the history books on WW 2, as you can see, when the germans invaded the "neuteral" country of france, they welcomed the germans! welcomed!, for god sake what kind of country does that!?"

That's not quite true...France wasn't neutral, they lost and gave up instead of having their "beautiful" cities like Paris (quotes cos i've never seen them ) smashed apart like Dresden (from British bombing) and other cities. Also some French people did resist, forming the...Resistance You must have played a WW2 game when you help the Resistance! They all do

Did you know that the US didn't actually join the war for some time and left London and other major British cities to be Blitzed, and I'm pretty sure (but not completely) that they only joined due to the public responding to British propaganda (note the US did help in some ways, like production of munitions, as they are allied). Also I think that if Germany had conquered England the US would have surrendered, or allied with Hitler, which is what he was relying on (never had a chance to happen).

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 18:54 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 19:06
a quote from something i watched last night
Quote: "Perl habour the place where the americans where took by suprise 2 years into a global war"


And if you go to america then to congress and look quite hard you will be able to find a book on wepons trading which lists all the weapons sold by the usa and there was some weapons of mass destruction sold by the usa in the early 90's to Iraq. also he used WMD's aginst the curds so when he decides to not let weapons inspectors do there job and also you have your own intellegence officers telling you have them then there is no real question whether they have them.

france didnt goto war was not because there nice and dont want to go to war but because they made a deal with Sadam that if they stop the sanctions against them then they will be sold oil. which was on the news when the bbc like the government and then led the uk to stop working with the united nations and goto war with america so if it wasent for france making secret deals then there would of been more negotiation'shttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1291280,00.html
Also the secrity report said that if there was a war with Iraq then it would lead to more terrorist attacks. so most contries including france didnt goto war out of being a coward. so it is stupid that people call tony blair a coward for helping. and also the g8 meeting's are comming soon the americans want to support the illegal loggers whilst tony wants to stop them so dont say he cant say no to bush because he obviously can.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4362505.stm

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 19:21
Quote: "A leitinant who is there stated, forgot the specifics, that we are losing the war. Bush says we're winning, and he's sitting on his ass here."


We are not losing the war. Take a look at the death counts and tell me who's losing the war. Progress is being made in Iraq, the exact progress Bush set out to do, maybe not on top of a roadside bomb, but in the Iraqi communities unseen by the media. There is a process of rebuilding and restructuring that I doubt you have any clue about. Not all the soldiers are over there to kill insurgents, I mean, I used the death counts to make a point, we're winning in other ways as well.

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But do they show the pictures of what really happens to some of the soldiers in the war? No.
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Of course not, they'd lose their jobs. And that's really what's important. News photographers' and videographers' jobs. But they can still tell it in words and that should be good enough for anti-war activists.

"6 US SOLDIERS WERE KILLED TODAY... oh and soldiers reopened two more elementary schools in iraq... THAT BRINGS THE TOTAL OF ALLIED DEAD TO 1025. THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH!"

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America is a cult. Just by looking at the surface you can see that. Why is it that people have to swear allegance to their country? Why is it that in schools some of the solgans read 'Reading is good for your country'? Why is it that Bush manages to stay in power after going to war ilegally while Clinton was empeached for a blowjob?

America is a cult run by the rich. Fox and all the other right wing meadia outlets have made it worse. I just can't believe how some people think the democrats are a bad choice for the country.

The rich run America - it's the people who are suffering.

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Quote: "they welcomed the germans! welcomed!, for god sake what kind of country does that!?"

I think someone replied to that, but heres something you seem to forget. During the WW2 when France and England were fighting against the Germans in France, when anyone got shot down(any English), the French people would look after them and hide them from the Germans, even though they knew that they would be killed if they were found out. I think that contradicts some comments about france.


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America is a cult. Just by looking at the surface you can see that. Why is it that people have to swear allegance to their country? Why is it that in schools some of the solgans read 'Reading is good for your country'? Why is it that Bush manages to stay in power after going to war ilegally while Clinton was empeached for a blowjob?

America is a cult run by the rich. Fox and all the other right wing meadia outlets have made it worse. I just can't believe how some people think the democrats are a bad choice for the country.

The rich run America - it's the people who are suffering.
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Some people are nationalists, some are extreme, and others arnt that extreme, but most people feel pride in their country to some level.

Usually I find that the drug heads and criminals dont have nationalistic feelings at all.

Because the people of America voted for bush, that is why.

And about clinton. The president is a national figure, he represents the entire country. We cant have him getting laid while on the job now can we?
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Erm, France was neutral during world war 2? Ok..... I take it you still get the history channel in the US?

And you would also be quite welcoming if your armies had been defeated and someone was pointing a gun in your face. Also if you had stupidely cocked up your defence plans. Had to make a dig at the french somewhere...

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"Because the people of America voted for bush, that is why."
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Excuse me, but Bush lost the first election to Gore. This has been independantly varified, in every possible situation Bush lost.

And Bush cheated in the first place - it doesn't bode well for you if you cheat in an election and still lose.

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so your one of those people a? at least bush didnt take names off of gravestones and count their votes. As for this thread, it should be locked, its gonna get real nasty soon

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Quote: "America is a cult. Just by looking at the surface you can see that. Why is it that people have to swear allegance to their country? Why is it that in schools some of the solgans read 'Reading is good for your country'? Why is it that Bush manages to stay in power after going to war ilegally while Clinton was empeached for a blowjob?

America is a cult run by the rich. Fox and all the other right wing meadia outlets have made it worse. I just can't believe how some people think the democrats are a bad choice for the country.

The rich run America - it's the people who are suffering."


America is not a cult! Why dont u leave your little country, whatever it is, and come live here! Dont insult my country! It, along with the UK, are the best countries in the world! We have power, pride, and sympathy!

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 23:41 Edited at: 20th Mar 2005 23:43
I do live in the UK.

I am not talking about taking the names off the gravestones, I am talking about stopping 10,000 black Americans voting. The great majority of whom would have voted democrat.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 23:47
ok, well then if you live in the UK, support the USA, were your strongest allies, we are not a cult.

Quote: "I am talking about stopping 10,000 black Americans voting."


What do you mean? Black people have just as much freedom as white.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 23:48
In Florida 10,000 black people were struck off the electorial roll for 'crimes' such as over due library books. Even people who's detials matched an offenders by 80% were also struck off the electoral roll.

This is TRUE and well documented.

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Quote: "It, along with the UK, are the best countries in the world! We have power, pride, and sympathy!"

How many other countries have you tried?


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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 23:53
The UK isn't so great, but its far better than Americas. At least our politions aren't living up the arse of corporations.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 23:56
One thing a lot of people seem to forget is that America is NOT the centre of the world, and for all its power, and (decreasing) money, it isn't necessarily better than any other country, which you havent ever been to/heard of. This debate has gone on for so long, and the same childish arguments come back again and again.

The only time this will get anywhere, is if the average age of the people in the argument goes over 12.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 23:58
Um, what planet do you live on? America runs the world!

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Posted: 20th Mar 2005 23:59
Hehe, if you say that, I'd like you to askl yourself that question

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Posted: 21st Mar 2005 00:02
America is trying to run the world


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Posted: 21st Mar 2005 00:08
I'm not going to lock this quite yet in the hope that it goes up. People, do not resort to personal attacks, and that includes saying "You're french so you suck" or other idiotic and offensive comments like that. Thank you

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Posted: 21st Mar 2005 00:20 Edited at: 21st Mar 2005 00:21
i say u lock it, all people are doing is criticizing America, and its annoying me. I have a lot of pride in America, and i hate when others criticize it, and have to point out every little weakness it has. Your country has weaknesses to u know.

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Posted: 21st Mar 2005 00:23
If the thread angers you, just don't read it .

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Posted: 21st Mar 2005 00:26
The untied kingdom's foreign policy is detemened by big buisnesses. And george bush is an excelent public speaker he could sell snow to an inuit also american is mostly christian in religion so when he goes to war with evil and sets people free from there evil opressors it starts to sound like he is some bible charactor.

Im not fond of george bush he has ruined the american economy which inturn destroys buisneses in other contries he also suports criminals for a few dollas of some stuff. But still the last person up for election would make it worse he would join forces with the french whos leader takes bribes. george bush is the less of two evils.

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Quote: "Im not fond of george bush he has ruined the american economy"

I dont get it, people are always saying that, but do they think he has a little lever in his office that he can control the economy with? Its just like the quarterback of a football team, he gets blamed and congratualated on winning and losing games, even though hes doesnt have much power in controlling the outcome. Its just the way the economy happens to be at the time of the president.

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Posted: 21st Mar 2005 00:30 Edited at: 21st Mar 2005 00:35
Quote: "Um, what planet do you live on? America runs the world!"


good, im sure we'd run it better then anyone else. And I myself love my country, for it is where I was born, and it is where I shall die. The U.S is the supperior to almost all countries. England is our #1 alli, and pretty much the rest of the world is a bunch of corrupt communist dictatorships.

O, did the world forget 911? our economy had to recover from that, also we had to recover our economy from the clinton administration.

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Posted: 21st Mar 2005 00:36 Edited at: 21st Mar 2005 00:37
Quote: "I dont get it, people are always saying that, but do they think he has a little lever in his office that he can control the economy with? Its just like the quarterback of a football team, he gets blamed and congratualated on winning and losing games, even though hes doesnt have much power in controlling the outcome. Its just the way the economy happens to be at the time of the president."

Well, that's not quite true (I assume you're a republican, so your keyword is "Reagan"). But that again that topic is too long for a post.




Quote: "good, im sure we'd run it better then anyone else. And I myself love my country, for it is where I was born, and it is where I shall die. The U.S is the supperior to almost all countries. England is our #1 alli, and pretty much the rest of the world is a bunch of corrupt communist dictatorships."

Oh dear...


Quote: "O, did the world forget 911? our economy had to recover from that, also we had to recover our economy from the clinton administration."

Indeed, turning a surplus to a deficit.


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