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Keemo1000
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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 13:37
Hey vid1987 . Ive heard some things about freewebs ( web hosting service) that has paypal function saying that when u add one of those paypal icons on your freewebs site , you get a dollar a day ..lol

If you really want to make money in an easy way , you should go buy that bald head guy's book , i think its called How to Win . hes got other series , but i think he end his book saying :- Well , this metrhod is supposed to get you money , and If you fail , then its your problem , its you that has a stupid mind , It worked for me because I managed to get an idiot like you to purchase my book . He gets money by writing books

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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 14:06
Quote: "Some of us never release anything because we never complete anything near releasing because we have the attention spans of a Autistic Emu, thus losing interest in any projects past the design stage and start of an engine of sorts"


And some of us (aka Me) just can't be bothered in the first place.


"Computers are useless, they can only give you answers."
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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 17:12
Quote: "Quote: "If you could read, you were much better informed."

Really? Oh well that must've been the problem, and not the DarkBASIC Professional Applications silently crashing."

That, for once, is true. It is your problem. Generally.


Quote: "Quote: "With this statement are you trying to indicate that you know how to do it?
*cough*
Accessing the PE resouce table... yes, sure."

If you didn't update the Resource Header and Table, then that would explain why it crashed so much. Not that I can even see how it'd be possibly to change it any other way, than altering the Windows Link data but that mean mean having to have the Icon in the same directory as the executable. Which kinda defeats the entire point, any retard can change that via a right-click."

Obviously (again) you don't know what you're talking about.


Quote: "Quote: "Namely? I only remember one TPC you released. And by all means, you can't claim you wrote them."

? Which is it.. sorry but it just sounds like your trying to insult me rather than 'prove' your point. Kinda becomes like a broken record."

That's the DBpro one where you changed the string table in order to unlock some "hidden" functions, while you claimed to have edited on "ASM level". Pity that the code sections of "your" TPC and the original ones were completely identical. I'm not trying to insult you as you state, but with that TPC you tried to insult the intelligence of the forum members.

Quote: "But it's my problem you've not seen mine? Yeah that makes sense."

No, just show me yours.


Quote: "sorry but that's all just pure assumptions really, and rather than trying to prove anything your just throwing insults. I couldn't care less what you have and haven't done. Just a simple fact that from my point of view all I've seen from you;"

Paranoid again?


Quote: "and an Application to swap the Icon that caused crashes unless you used very specific icons.. although what your trying to claim is this problem is entirely my fault for not reading the instructions on how to use such a complicated application.

if you'd done you job properly then all the user should need to do is click to browse, the click to swap."

That actually would be a point. Then again all the people who use it and can read don't have many problems with that.


Quote: "you want to actually be known for more than just being the resident 'Delphi' nutcase, perhaps you should actually bother contributing to the community in a way that people appreciate rather than simple attacking users you don't like."

I do contribute to the community.


Quote: "because from my perspective that's about ALL you've done for the past year, is get on my case constantly. I'm growing extremely tired of it, as I'm sure are many of the other users around here."

Still paranoid?

Quote: "You've taken a perfectly simple thread and simply attacked me out-right from the get go. your like some pathetic vulture who just flys around waiting to make jabs when you see an opening. Yeah, I totally see how THAT helps the community."

Where did I attack you "out-right from the get go"?
Tell me you haven't announced game releases that never materialised? Programming languages? An OS? A console? You haven't done that?


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Raven
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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 17:55
Quote: "Obviously (again) you don't know what you're talking about."


Alright, so how do Windows PE files store the Icons then?
Cause last time I checked any additional Binary file is stored at the end of the executable, but requires you to setup the Resource Table so that the PE knows what it's suppose to be accessing.

While no doubt you could just swap out the icons, if this was ALL you were doing then as I said this would explain why it crashes when you suppliment the icon with those that are larger than it expects, because your over-running some other important resources that the DBP Executable requires in order to run.

But I'm sure you already knew that was the problem with your application and felt it wasn't a major issue.

Quote: "That's the DBpro one where you changed the string table in order to unlock some "hidden" functions, while you claimed to have edited on "ASM level". Pity that the code sections of "your" TPC and the original ones were completely identical. I'm not trying to insult you as you state, but with that TPC you tried to insult the intelligence of the forum members."


Right, and you just so happened to decide to put a 16MB-odd Assembly Generated file through a code comparison tool just to do what..?

Quote: "No, just show me yours."



Quote: "Paranoid again?"

Paranoia is when your thinking something because your worried about it, but isn't actually true. I think the fact you went meticulously through something I did (and that wouldn't be the first time) just to try and prove me wrong, is more hard evidence that your a nut job.

Quote: "That actually would be a point. Then again all the people who use it and can read don't have many problems with that."


Dude.. did YOU even notice how few people were using it.
I can't remember if I actually posted in the thread in the end, but I distinctly remember telling Kat about the tool; I might not like you even remotely but unlike you I'm not smacktard who has to try and show up people he doesn't like.

Face facts, you have a very strange obsession with me.. why can you just get on with your life and deal like 99% of the rest of this forum.

Quote: "I do contribute to the community."


From what I see, you generally stick to popping into threads created about Delphi... or PlayBasic... or like right now make pops at me. If that's your idea of contributing, having almost nothing to do with the language the forum is for; then way to go!

Next you might want to pop over to the Microsoft forums, big-up Linux and give the thier own Distro that works just like Windows, eh?

Quote: "Still paranoid?"

See gonna have to go with paranoia being if what I was saying wasn't right ... unfortunately your mere reply is kinda proof enough that your just not going to stop this until you get some sort of 'win' satisfaction knowing once again yuo've beaten the "Almighty Evil Raven". I bet you mom is so proud of you

Quote: "Where did I attack you "out-right from the get go"?
Tell me you haven't announced game releases that never materialised? Programming languages? An OS? A console? You haven't done that?"


Hmm.. let's see.
-Games :: So I take it every single other game announcement around here has been fulfilled?
-Programming Language :: There's several of them from several user going on at any moment, I don't see how me working on one is so 'special'
-Operating System :: Again, do you even read the 'other languages' forum?
-Console :: Oh wait, we might have a winner.. if it wasn't for the fact that once again I am NOT the only user who has tried to get one going.

So quite frankly, what out of any of those actually makes me any different from any other user?

I don't see you making huge posts about Eddie B, or any of the other miriade of users who've been working on these things. Just what the hell makes me so special that time and time again you keep singling me out?

If I were working for Microsoft or something with a huge back catalog of titles and such before comming on here to spout off about things that are potencially in the works that everyone should get excited about... then fair enough you might have the right to be completely, weird and kinda on the scarey stalker side.

But the fact remains that I'm not on Microsoft's team of next generation Windows, or Visual C++, or X-Box developers... I don't owe anyone anything. I'm here as part of my hobby, and from time to time I will drop or backburner one project for another, because this is a hobby; NOT my job. I don't work for TGC, so I don't have to answer to you or anyone.. I CAN do project on a whim, because it's my money paying for the parts, the software, and it's my free time going into it not yours.

Infact quite frankly I don't see how anything I'm doing IS actually any of your business to if I complete it, release it, or whatever.
Your not the one helping me out.. so seriously what the hell does it matter to you?

What cause you think I'm lying to everyone so you feel you have some god given right to seek out "the truth", or rather what you believe to be the truth. Dude if you don't like what I talk about, you don't like how I present myself, and don't like the projects I understand... if you think they're all BS then fine whatever.

I'm not stapping you to a chair making you have to listen. You have free will, you can choose to either read and take in what is being said. Or click away from it.

You would think after 2-3years of harassing me you'd realise you ain't gonna win, so why bother? I mean you might get enough people to sit down and believe you enough to turn against me and be just as much of a jerk as you are... but fact remains, if I can put up with you, and mouse, and jimmy and however else feels like getting in my face 24/7 what's the bet anything is going to change?

I don't know what your problem is, but for gods sake... it's your own, so stop trying to make it mine.

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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 18:23 Edited at: 28th Jun 2005 18:26
Dear me. Another pissing contest - well I never.

David T > My advice to you is to scope all the "e-tailer" projects at once, and then see if you can generalise your solution If you can, get the clients to use PHP 5 as the OO stuff really would help in that situation.

A lot of PHP "programmers" out there just seem to piss about with personal websites and no matter what people say, that just doesn't stretch you as a programmer*. So good on you for finding some decent projects

*with a view to gainful employment in PHP

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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 19:14
Quote: "Alright, so how do Windows PE files store the Icons then?
Cause last time I checked any additional Binary file is stored at the end of the executable, but requires you to setup the Resource Table so that the PE knows what it's suppose to be accessing."

Check again.


Quote: "While no doubt you could just swap out the icons, if this was ALL you were doing then as I said this would explain why it crashes when you suppliment the icon with those that are larger than it expects, because your over-running some other important resources that the DBP Executable requires in order to run."

No, really?



Quote: "Right, and you just so happened to decide to put a 16MB-odd Assembly Generated file through a code comparison tool just to do what..?"

I compared the code sections. 3 minutes. Result: No differences.


Quote: "Quote: "No, just show me yours."
"

Show me your projects.


Quote: "I think the fact you went meticulously through something I did (and that wouldn't be the first time) just to try and prove me wrong, is more hard evidence that your a nut job."

Meticulously? Anyway, fact is you lied.


Quote: "Dude.. did YOU even notice how few people were using it."

I don't know how many people use it. Nor do you. But I know how many people downloaded it. You don't.


Quote: "From what I see, you generally stick to popping into threads created about Delphi... or PlayBasic... or like right now make pops at me. If that's your idea of contributing, having almost nothing to do with the language the forum is for; then way to go!"

Ah yes. I could have sworn I posted several DB(pro) examples and snippets recently but hey, what do I know.


Quote: "-Games :: So I take it every single other game announcement around here has been fulfilled?
-Programming Language :: There's several of them from several user going on at any moment, I don't see how me working on one is so 'special'
-Operating System :: Again, do you even read the 'other languages' forum?
-Console :: Oh wait, we might have a winner.. if it wasn't for the fact that once again I am NOT the only user who has tried to get one going.

So quite frankly, what out of any of those actually makes me any different from any other user?"

Hardly anyone (non-newbie) makes such a great fuss about their projects, and even newbies post a screenshot of when told to do so.
Oh, and none of the other people who conceived a console claim to have a deal with nvidia.


Quote: "But the fact remains that I'm not on Microsoft's team of next generation Windows, or Visual C++, or X-Box developers"

True. You don't work at MS, opposed to your claims.


Quote: "until you get some sort of 'win' satisfaction knowing once again yuo've beaten the "Almighty Evil Raven"."

I don't want a win satisfaction. And Almighty?
Fact is you constantly lie and misrepresent yourself. If you announce stuff in a public forum, live with the consequences or just don't post it. It's as easy as that.


Quote: "I bet you mom is so proud of you "

Prolly. I'll ask her.


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Raven
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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 20:27 Edited at: 28th Jun 2005 20:30
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/firmware/PECOFF.mspx

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndebug/html/msdn_peeringpe.asp

Quote: "To go further into the resource formats, I'd need to discuss the format of each resource type (dialogs, menus, and so on). Covering these topics could easily fill up an entire article on its own. "


Quote: "Generally, there are at least three directory levels before you get to the actual raw resource data. The top-level directory (of which there's only one) is always found at the beginning of the resource section (.rsrc). The subdirectories of the top-level directory correspond to the various types of resources found in the file. For example, if a PE file includes dialogs, string tables, and menus, there will be three subdirectories: a dialog directory, a string table directory, and a menu directory. Each of these type subdirectories will in turn have ID subdirectories. There will be one ID subdirectory for each instance of a given resource type. In the above example, if there are three dialog boxes, the dialog directory will have three ID subdirectories. Each ID subdirectory will have either a string name (such as "MyDialog") or the integer ID used to identify the resource in the RC file. Figure 5 shows a resource directory hierarchy example in visual form. Table 13 shows the PEDUMP output for the resources in the Windows NT CLOCK.EXE."


Standard Resource Table from a Random DBP Executable



but I'm sure Microsoft's own documentation is wrong. I mean how else would that explain me being right, eh?

Quote: "Meticulously? Anyway, fact is you lied."


Either you thouroughly checked the compared source or you didn't, and in either case we only have your word you actually did it don't we. Further more there is no 'Fact' I lied what-so-ever.
If you could actually read you'd realise why, secondly I don't see any hard evidence showing you did anything other than make a baseless claim. This said it was your own baseless claim you were trying to disprove.

Quote: "True. You don't work at MS, opposed to your claims."

Same point as above really, you need a better grasp of the english language before you start making statements.

Quote: "I don't want a win satisfaction. And Almighty?
Fact is you constantly lie and misrepresent yourself. If you announce stuff in a public forum, live with the consequences or just don't post it. It's as easy as that."


Really? But I don't recall actually being proven wrong.
You can say stuff like 'oh the GBA doesn't have a 300MHz processor.. blah blah', but the fact is that the original argument was because I said I read it was 300MHz before it was released in one of the magazines; and I had assumed it was still the same as when they'd claimed. It doesn't mean I was wrong in what I knew.

Same with the things I have said I have done.. people claimed 'oh because your not in a photo we've found on the net then your not really in that development team.', several problems with that being
a) no one knew what I looked like, so how could anyone know if I was or wasn't in a photo?
b) not everyone is always taken in group shots, sometimes people are ill.
c) no one asked if I was part of the Resident development team, it is a very common thing for EA to move employees wherever they choose, whenever they choose.. particularly those who's job it is, is to go into a development team as 'extra help' and make sure they can meet a releas date..
d) were they 100% sure that not only they got the correct studio, but they also got the correct team?

that are so many problems with the so-called proof that is constantly put forward it isn't even funny.

yet if you mock up some image in photoshop, stick someones head on it and throw it around a forum... obviously it was a true event that Froogle became a donkey at some point in his interestingly wonderful life. : rolls eyes :

Sorry, but just because you don't like what someone says doesn't mean you can go around calling them a liar. I mean you've taken this too far and your begining to serious harass me, and it has got to stop! Just because my comments are out in a public forum doesn't mean that instantly entitles you to harass me for weeks, months or even years about things. It also doesn't mean you have any more right to harass me every time I happen to have a post you don't agree with.

You didn't even bother adding to this thread until someone made a comment about my work, and the responsese have been 100% directed at me. THAT IS HARASSMENT! I didn't sign any agreements when joining this forum that say 'thou shalt show proof on demand', and as such I'm not going to. You can take this however you want, but I'm not showing proof to some retard just to get him off my back.

You cannot however keep bothering me in the way you have, if you don't like me then LEAVE ME ALONE. I mean jesus how hard is that for you to understand.

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Eric T
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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 20:32
Quote: "I mean jesus how hard is that for you to understand."


I detest you using my name in vein!

What? Oh, my name isn't Jesus? Well... we share the same birthday, same thing! Thats right, make me my waffles. Bring some soda too, yeah, ssssoooodaa.

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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 20:46 Edited at: 28th Jun 2005 21:25
Quote: "Standard Resource Table from a Random DBP Executable
but I'm sure Microsoft's own documentation is wrong. I mean how else would that explain me being right, eh?"

Now explain how does go together with your statemens:
"Accessing the Resource Table and swapping media", "any additional Binary file is stored at the end of the executable, but requires you to setup the Resource Table so that the PE knows what it's suppose to be accessing."
The last sentence isn't completely wrong (but close to completely) but isn't even remotely enough to change the icon of an executable file.


Quote: "Either you thouroughly checked the compared source or you didn't, and in either case we only have your word you actually did it don't we. Further more there is no 'Fact' I lied what-so-ever.
If you could actually read you'd realise why, secondly I don't see any hard evidence showing you did anything other than make a baseless claim. This said it was your own baseless claim you were trying to disprove."

I wasn't the only one who compared it, but anyway. But let's make this simple: Do you still keep the claim that you edited those DLLs on ASM level? Yes or No.


Quote: "Same point as above really, you need a better grasp of the english language before you start making statements."

LOL, that's pretty funny considering the source.


Quote: "Really? But I don't recall actually being proven wrong."

But I do. For example, remember the PlayBasic beta you extensively used?


As for the EA C&C Generals thing. You 1) claimed to be (at least sort of a) teamleader there, 2) having spent more than several months there, 3) confused Westwood with EA Pacific, 4) weren't credited for that game (or any commercial game, for that matter).


Quote: "You didn't even bother adding to this thread until someone made a comment about my work, and the responsese have been 100% directed at me. THAT IS HARASSMENT!"

It isn't. This is a forum and I post my opinion. I don't call people names or post profanity.


Quote: " I didn't sign any agreements when joining this forum that say 'thou shalt show proof on demand', and as such I'm not going to. You can take this however you want, but I'm not showing proof to some retard just to get him off my back."

You shouldn't lie, that's all. And if you do, there's a risk that someone will point it out. Such is life.


Quote: "You cannot however keep bothering me in the way you have, if you don't like me then LEAVE ME ALONE. I mean jesus how hard is that for you to understand."

That is paranoid.


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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 20:52
Hmm, now I regret eating all my popcorn while watching a movie. Well, atleast I have my soda.

*awaits the next set of retorts*

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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 21:03
Too much effort going into posts that will only ever be read a couple times by one or two people. Such a distorted perception of priority.


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Posted: 28th Jun 2005 22:02 Edited at: 29th Jun 2005 02:28
Back to the orginal page of topics.....

My brother (who shall rename nameless) helped a guy in "lawyer" in Nigeria make 1850$ in under 2 weeks. He gave it to him. (At least he got a reciept.) Then he had the nerve to try and borrow more from me. This was after I loaned him 2K for a down payment on a car a little over a year ago(Which he hadn't payed back yet).

P.S. Did I mention he's my older brother by about 12 yr's

The best way I know to make money on or offline gives a minimum of 56.25% intrest on your money, after taxes it's still 43% a year. It's basically a type of high intrest real estate loan, that is sucured by the property. You either end up with the property or 25% intrest in under 6 months. (At least in Texas ). This is the reason I am partially retired in my mid 20's. It will only be 2 more yrs. to full time retirement and full time software developing. The only problem is it is not a liquid investment (meaning you can't just cash out anytime.) and it takes a minimum of about 2K to get started and a little legwork(not just sit and watch) doing research on the properties at the courthouse.

P.S. For info on this in your area research your local tax lien laws and also you have to be a minmum age to participate, usually adult or 18+.

Breaking Stuff=Fun!,Bug Testing<>Fun!, Bug Testing=Breaking Stuff, so...
Bug Testing=Fun! Hmmmm....
DOES NOT COMPUTE! SYSTEM MALFUNTION!
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Posted: 29th Jun 2005 00:22
$1000 a day

Sounds pretty pie in the sky, but i'll bet some clever marketers are generating that and much more. A common approach to earning online now, is acting as an affiliate for another product or service and collecting a commission for each sale generated through your leads.

The beauty about this is your a hidden middle man, you don't have to create/ship and handle after sales service of said product/service. You just have to find a way to direct customers to products. While you can do that through all sorts ways online, Your own web site(s), forums, news letters.. They take a work to establish, so their not well suited to a quick revenue run like bulk emailing, or what appears to be a even better approach now which is through something like google ad words.

While I _haven't_ tired it myself, effectively what you can do is bid on sets of keywords. When a google user searches with any of your keywords, your ad gets displayed with the search results. I'm sure we've all seen these. If the searcher clicks your ad, you pay your big price for this click. Which might be a few cents or more. You set the price. Remember, your bidding against other adword users. Anyway , the click (upon the ad) takes the user to your affiliated product/services order page.

So what you could do, is research some products that you think would be popular, that are currently poorly situated under normal searches (anything past the first 2/3 pages) . So if you find something and it has a affiliated reseller program available, then sign up. Then try and guide searchers to this product through your google adword campaign(s). Of course you need to pick something that isn't overly populated already. Like there's no point trying it with another DVD copier or penis pump etc etc.

You don't need a web site, mailing lists, bulk emails.. nothing, you are effectively anonymous link in connecting customers with products.

Care certainly has to be taken though, as your paying for user clicks, so you have to be sure those who follow your leads, are likely to buy. So the commissions from the sales you generate, will need cover your advertising cost in order to generate a profit. The better the ratio of leads to sales (depending on commission really) the better your return.

So, If you could find a product and if you could write effective copy for your adword marketing, then you could certainly generate revenue in a short period of time. The real beauty is that there's no limit to how many products you could set up like this.

Worth researching I think.

Kevin Picone
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Very...insightful.

Don't look at me like that!
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Hey guys, what'd I miss.

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Don't trust any of those damn "make money online" crap they are mostly pyramid scams and if you come across anything saying "make money by stuffing envelops" don't do it.

read a book called steal this computer book 3 it has stuff about online scams and just about everything inbetween it is a good read it will teach you alot on how to watch out for those damn scams....its just best to stay away from that stuff anyways.

If you really wanna make money start a company and get a grant from the government (in the US you can get 100,000$ to start up a company if you qualify)

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