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Geek Culture / Google Talk

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AluminumPork
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Posted: 30th Aug 2005 17:13 Edited at: 30th Aug 2005 17:15
Buahaha, I love conversations like this, especially about Google. There are a number of Google products I love and use, due to the fact that they don't make their existance known wildly on your computer. Like when AIM has those extremely annoying animated ads on the top that play SOUNDS automatically. Oh my god that is annoying, and sometimes freaks me out. I also recently played with OSX Tiger on my friends new Apple and happened to love the Spotlight feature, oh I hope WinFS makes it into Windows Vista, but guess what, I can have something that's almost identical. mmmm, Google Desktop search, it sits down in my taskbar just like spotlight and gives me live results without me even hitting enter. I lovvvee it. As soon as Google Talk has some sort of file transfer feature, it'll be a god send. I'm so sick and tired of ALL the other clients. They make you know they are there, they want to be seen and look pretty. The way the windows dock, and just how small they minimal they are. It's sit there quietly, just doing what it's supposed, whilst MSN Messenger for some reason wants you to use it oh so badly and constantly bugs you about and just won't go away without a registry hack. I don't want you MSN Messenger, why can't I just click a button and make you go away. One final thing I love about the little simple programs they produce, the install routines. So tiny and quick, I don't need some big long process that sets a restore point and seems to take forever to do what should take a few seconds.

Don't get me wrong, I like Microsoft and the things they have produced and producing, but I honestly think they need to take their place and Google has their place in the market. I like Google Search, because I hit the site, it loads instantly, I search and results load instantly and google doesn't make itself known, it lets you use Google search for as little of time possible and gets you to the results and onto the content you were looking for quickly. If I hit MSN, it loads how many images and how many news story that I simple just don't care about. Google doesn't combine everything into one large service that tries to do everything from one location, they provide seperate services that fulfil what they were designed to do, and nothing else. They then connect the services so they share information. That's what I love.

Again, I can't wait for Vista, as I'm becoming jealous of OSX users.



Pheeew.

[edit]It's kind of like Google has the same mindset as http://tinyapps.org Grrreeeattt site, "Smaller is Better"[/edit]

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Raven
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Posted: 30th Aug 2005 18:45
NTFS already has index/node based searching which can be built as you search. The more you search the better and quicker it gets, WinFS simply took NTFS to the next level so to speak.

Google Desktop might seem interesting but then Microsoft also released thier desktop search engine, which was actually in development first; and has more features.

Google made something much simplier and got it out asap. See this is why I hate them so much really. They have a habbit of doing something that as far as the programming and art industries go is considered one of the biggest insults.

Takeing the same product as someone else, underwriting thier development time, effort and cost while making a point to put down any competitors work it's like the collection of the most unethical behaviour you can do. That's why the_winch recieved such a cold receiption to his .NET DLL product on the forum each time he posted; haviour like this shouldn't be tolerated.

Yet when a big corporation that isn't called Microsoft do it, it's alright. As a company Microsoft do a lot of questionable things; but even they stop short of underwrite development.

Jimmy
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Posted: 30th Aug 2005 23:27
Quote: "You want to know the kicker they were the first people to come up with a solution to Adware/Pop-ups... yet funnily enough it ONLY affects like 90% of everyone else's advertisement. Thier own are completely untouched by it. Go figure."


Show me google's adware and pop-ups. Let's see the proof for your idiotic claim. Until this happens, cut the bull-crap anti-google act. I know you're just trying to convince everyone you're a microsoft employee by taking microsoft's stance against google, but you're only making yourself look like a big sodding idiot.

Jeku
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Posted: 30th Aug 2005 23:30
Quote: "You want to know the kicker they were the first people to come up with a solution to Adware/Pop-ups... yet funnily enough it ONLY affects like 90% of everyone else's advertisement. Thier own are completely untouched by it. Go figure."


Crap, Jimmy beat me to it. Oh well, I still want to see these examples myself. Google has always been opposed to popups and adware. I'd like to see some proof.


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Deep Thought 42
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Posted: 31st Aug 2005 22:26
I haven't messed with the multiplayer commands yet but does anyone think that it is possible to make a messaging program in DB Pro?

"Winners never quit and quitters never win. But those who never win and never quit are idiots."
dark coder
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Posted: 31st Aug 2005 23:10
of course it is, and what a stupid comment to make


Deep Thought 42
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Posted: 31st Aug 2005 23:23
Well pardon me for being a noob.

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Mattman
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Posted: 1st Sep 2005 02:55
Quote: " of course it is, and what a stupid comment to make
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Quote: " Well pardon me for being a noob.
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I don't see noob being mentioned anywhere in the first post...
Raven
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Posted: 1st Sep 2005 05:37
Quote: "Show me google's adware and pop-ups. Let's see the proof for your idiotic claim. Until this happens, cut the bull-crap anti-google act. I know you're just trying to convince everyone you're a microsoft employee by taking microsoft's stance against google, but you're only making yourself look like a big sodding idiot."


The Google Toolbar itself is Adware, with everything they release full of adverts. Hell there's a damn adsense banner at the bottom of this forum. I mean what the crap... fine so you don't have a thousand odd google popups everywhere; yeah like these banner adverts everywhere are any different?!

What's more thier Toolbar actually disables, most forms of advert not just pop-up.

Jeku
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Posted: 1st Sep 2005 07:30
Quote: "The Google Toolbar itself is Adware, with everything they release full of adverts. Hell there's a damn adsense banner at the bottom of this forum. I mean what the crap... fine so you don't have a thousand odd google popups everywhere; yeah like these banner adverts everywhere are any different?!

What's more thier Toolbar actually disables, most forms of advert not just pop-up.
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OK that makes no sense. I respect you and all, but how can you say adsense banners at the bottom of this page is the same as popup ads? Are you insane? Seriously--- it's not worth arguing something if you don't believe it yourself, which I find it hard to believe you do.

And as for their Toolbar disabling "most" forms of ads, which it doesn't, is that a bad thing? There's an extension for Firefox to disable all ads, but you have to train it heavily. Google would be in a lot of heat if their toolbar disabled most forms of ads.

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