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Geek Culture / Doom3 running on Linux

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MiR
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Posted: 13th Sep 2005 23:45
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Actully the version I used at school was very crap. Even our teacher who is a Linux fan (even has varios Tux tshirts) admitted it was crap in the end. When will they stop making an operating sytem for programmers?

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Raven
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 09:33
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Quote: "There's no use in arguing with you, Raven, as you never admit when you've made a mistake. OBVIOUSLY people are running Doom 3 on Linux. THEREFORE you have done something wrong in the process of getting it to run. Any programmer with a logical brain can understand this."


I don't think 1:100 people getting it running fine on thier system counts as some sort of conclusive proof. But if you think that it's me who's done something wrong then by all means, set-up you own copy of Linux and install Doom 3 Linux.

I mean if it's obviously MY error, then you should have no problem running the game without incident, eh?
It also shocks me to find quite a huge number support and help files on just getting the game running.. so again I'm sure that's just a coincidence because we all know how awesomely popular the game is.

Can also completely ignore the fact that you decided to side-step my question.

Quote: "[quote]Raven, you should have learned by now, no one likes to read 4 page posts, unless they are interesting, and what you have to say, is most definantly not interesting."


Quote: "I have Doom 3 running on calculator watch. Raven, I guess you are just a noob.

Have you tried Cedega?"
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Some more brilliant ideas from the think tank.

Quote: "When will they stop making an operating sytem for programmers?"


Ya know the ironic thing here is SuSE is suppose to be the build designed for Home Users, without mountains of Linux knowledge.
I'm still debating over sorting out the repair. Gotta swap my DVD-RAM and CDRW around... damn Linux on DVD.

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MiR
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 17:00
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Quote: "Ya know the ironic thing here is SuSE is suppose to be the build designed for Home Users"

Are you sure? I mean thats the version that my hyper geeko 1337 hax0r teacher swears by. And also the version that killed a friends pc.

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Raven
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 17:24
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yeah ... SuSE and Linspire (aka Lindows) are both suppose to be Home User friendly. Definately known as the easy-version throughout the hardcore circles.

Currently trying again SuSE 9.3 again, this time I'm trying to get KDE 3.4 installed.

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Eric T
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 17:49
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Ya know, if SuSE wasn't totally in the tanks with Novell, I'd use it. But I have a severe hatred of Novell on all fronts (blame having to help run a Novell server for about 900 computers for 3 years). I find most Novell products that I have used are terribly unstable and slow.

Saw someone with Doom 3 Linux running through Fedora core 3 a little bit ago, didn't look to terribly good though. Seems that which ever emulator he was running was docking his vid card (9800xt) badly. I might try getting it to go on my Ubuntu installation a bit later (which after using for 2 weeks, i'm convinced ubuntu is the most simple linux ever). Tell ya how that goes...

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Raven
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 18:04
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That's the version I have Novell SuSE 9.3 Professional, have Advanced Server too; but don't see a point in it for now

Hopefully get it working in a little bit, just need to update the Kernel now (fun as I have to do that manually )

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 19:34
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So lemme get this straight - the reason you're using SuSE is because RedHat and the others dont run Cedega as well as SuSE does? As far as I know RedHat is easy to upgrade the kernal...

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Raven
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 19:54 Edited at: 14th Sep 2005 20:12
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I use SuSE because it's the only one I can stand for more than a few minutes at a time.

Well anyways I got Doom 3 to load... or rather it starts and you get the 'Loading Game' screen, then it crashes out but the screen resolution remains 640x480 and the mouse seems to disconnnect.
Have to log-out then back in.

This problem might take a while to figure out. :-\



not entirely sure the issue now, on the plus side atleast it bloody starts... gonna see about upgrading this ALSA thing

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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 21:28
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imo suse 9.3 has more bugs than 9.2, both can be problematic, just running a test install of ubuntu, some problems so far but got unreal tournament running on it eventualy after getting the installer to look at the universe, cant try try doom III on that machine though since the vid card is only a GeForce4mx,



the average IQ is 100...but the people that took the test where trying to look smart. most people don`t go over 50.
Area 51?, I`m more intrested in what they have in areas 1 to 50
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JoelJ
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 21:38
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Quote: "yeah ... SuSE and Linspire (aka Lindows) are both suppose to be Home User friendly. Definately known as the easy-version throughout the hardcore circles."

Get Xandros, it's teh BEST, trust me, i hated linux until i installed it

They have an Open Circulation version of it, the only difference is that you dont get that Wine installation they have that costs money, but you dont want it unless you're trying to ONLY run Adobe programs or office suites rather than games, if you want games, of course WineX is bettar.

anyway...


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Jeku
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 22:28
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Quote: "But if you think that it's me who's done something wrong then by all means, set-up you own copy of Linux and install Doom 3 Linux."


Can't, as I don't own Doom 3 for PC.

Quote: "I don't think 1:100 people getting it running fine on thier system counts as some sort of conclusive proof. "


Wouldn't that even extend your belief further that it's not Linux's fault? There are what, 50-100 distros of Linux? I would blame id--- but oh yeah, id is the god of game developers, they would never release a half-assed port. <-- sarcasm

Quote: "Can also completely ignore the fact that you decided to side-step my question."


Was that directed at me?

Raven, I'd suggest you follow the steps that the 1 out of 100 person used to get Doom 3 up and running. Wouldn't that make the most sense? Different distros have their strengths and weaknesses. I've found that something which might run on one distro doesn't necessarily mean it'll run on another.

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Raven
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 23:42
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Quote: "some problems so far but got unreal tournament running on it eventualy after getting the installer to look at the universe, cant try try doom III on that machine though since the vid card is only a GeForce4mx"


Doom 3 runs on a GeForce 4 mx, it'll run on a GeForce 2 as well. Despite not being officially tested and supported. They use the fixed function pipeline.

In-fact the Linux version says NV10+ which iirc even includes the TNT2 cause GF2 is NV19 or something.

As far as Unreal Tournament 2003/4 yeah I had zero problems. Ran the installer, clicked next.. Bam! worked first time no issues what-so-ever. Same goes for Quake 3 and Jedi Knight 2, got both installed and running no issues what-so-ever.

Quote: "Raven, I'd suggest you follow the steps that the 1 out of 100 person used to get Doom 3 up and running. Wouldn't that make the most sense? Different distros have their strengths and weaknesses. I've found that something which might run on one distro doesn't necessarily mean it'll run on another."


It not running Doom 3 isn't what ticked me off and caused my rant about how sodding useless and unstable the OS is. Try re-reading the topic.

Aside from anything else, the people who get things like this working just always post 'well it works for me' they never say how the hell they got it working or anything else.

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Rpg Cyco
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Posted: 15th Sep 2005 00:47 Edited at: 15th Sep 2005 00:48
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Quote: "Saw someone with Doom 3 Linux running through Fedora core 3 a little bit ago, didn't look to terribly good though. Seems that which ever emulator he was running was docking his vid card (9800xt) badly."


ATI's Linux drivers are below par and running Doom3 with Cedega would make it even worse than running it native for him. For me, Doom3 in Linux (in Fedora and Ubuntu) hit the same max FPS as Windows XP, but it reached it much more consistently.

As for your problem Raven, I don't really know. I can provide you with instructions on how I installed Doom3, but I doubt you've installed it wrong anyway.

In all honestly, I suggest you try the next Ubuntu release, in October. It includes GNOME 2.12 which is very good.

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JoelJ
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Posted: 15th Sep 2005 00:52
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ewwey GUI, i dont like Gnome as much as KDE...


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Jeku
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Posted: 15th Sep 2005 08:01
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Quote: "Aside from anything else, the people who get things like this working just always post 'well it works for me' they never say how the hell they got it working or anything else."


They must be lying then, as Linux is too flawed and "sodding useless and unstable" to run Doom 3.

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JoelJ
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Posted: 15th Sep 2005 08:03
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Quote: "They must be lying then, as Linux is too flawed and "sodding useless and unstable" to run Doom 3."

isnt it tho? at least, that's what RAVEN told me, and he knows everything, he has a DEGREE in Windows and MacOS, he even said so himself.


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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 15th Sep 2005 15:18
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Sarcasm leads to the dark side....

I've tried about 3-4 flavours of linux (Redhat, SuSE, Knopix & Gentoo). In that order in the list is how I rate them. SuSE installed easily enough and looked ok but thats where it ended for me. Knopix is great as a Live CD, but thats not new anymore. Gentoo is just silly. It took me many times longer to do anything in it!! I keep going back to RedHat because I find it is just so compatible and well behaved compared to the others...

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