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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 00:57
I watched Saw 2 recently. Yuck!!! I was almost sick. Horrors are really pushing the bounderies now!!!

I'm not giving anything away though!

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 00:59
if you want a horroe pushing the limits watch land of the dead.

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land of the dead doesnt push the limits.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 01:18
I don't think it's that revolting. Hostel was a bit revolting but I don't know why everyone says SAW is so gruesome, etc. I guess I'm just twisted.

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no land of the dead had some parts.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 01:30
You're talking intestines, right? All of the dead trilogy has a bit of intestine action. It's almost like Romero's trade mark. Hmmmm ... what can the zombies do that'd really make people cringe? I know, rip their abdomen open with their fingers and pull out their intestines while they're still alive!

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 01:32
Saw 2 sucked. Some of the traps were just rat-trap lame.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 01:39
I've not seen Saw 2, but Hostel wasn't particularly pleasant. The first half plays like some teen sex comedy, lulling you into a false sense of safety perhaps, then they unleash the torture scenes, and finally wrap it up with a ridiculous 'revenge' ending. Not for the squemish (or those who like even a shread of intelligence to their horror films).

Roth just doesn't have the film-making skills of Romero or Argento imho. I'm no hardcore horror fan (and wouldn't stoop to watch anything along the lines of Cannibal Ferox / Holocaust), but the Dead movies are classics really.

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Talking of zombies. Finally saw 28 Days Later last night, wasn't too bad but made me wonder why no-one's made a film about what happens when the army/general public try to regain control of their country. Out of the zombie films I've seen (not that many) a few of them have ended just as the army rolls up to finally take the last few survivors somewhere safe. I want to know what happens next.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 01:52 Edited at: 20th Mar 2006 01:53
Quote: "Saw 2 sucked."


I second that i was very disappointed with Saw 2 the first was so much better, second was way to drawn out and boring and i especially though the ending stunk (imo). I'm a big fan of horror love Saw, Texas Chainsaw (original), House of a 1000, Devils Rejects, Dead Alive, High Tension, Exorcist, but for some reason Saw 2 couldn't hold my interest at all.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 02:06
Interesting... I thought it was decent when I saw it, but then again I'd been awake for two days and I'd drank 12 Red Bulls when I was working on the TYTT game.



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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 12:25
probably the most successful horror movie was alien 2.
i shi[nobadword]t my pants first time i saw it :\'( not literally speaking though

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 12:49 Edited at: 20th Mar 2006 12:50
Alien 2 was really good, my favourite is Saw, or Jeepers Creepers, or even Road Kill. Hard to say.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 13:10
Quote: "I'm a big fan of horror love Saw, Texas Chainsaw (original), "


The original Texas Chain Saw Massacre has got to be the worst movie ever, somehow I don't find watching people screaming very interesting (or scary), anyone who can stand to watch Sally scream for 5 minutes straight without anything else actually happening must've lived a very dull life. Granted, it may have had more of an impact in 74 when it first came out but these days they may as well class it as a comedy. Very disappointing.


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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 14:04
Aliens was a horror movie? No way, I'd class that as a full-on action film, ala Terminator!

Now 'alien', that was a bit more freaky, and you could classify it as a horror I believe, but Aliens was hardcore gunplay with awesome effects. Still my favourite film ever.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 14:59
Saw was great!
I never saw the twist coming at the end... It was just like "OMG!"
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And, SawII... Yeah, not too bad, but it wasn't as good as the first. After seeing the first, you kinda guess that there's going to be a major twist like that, so it loses it's "OMG" factor...

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Alien was GREAT! None of that crappy acting cos they were looking at a green ball - all animatronics, all original, all awesome.

Haven't seen the 'Dead' movies, but have seen a fair few Zombie movies.
One of the more 'freaky' aspects of a Zombie flick is the one where they're all trapped inside a shopping center - The camera tricks at the end where they very, VERY breifly flash a scary picture on the screen so it burns into your mind just plain gave me nightmares - It's like one of those games that makes you concentrate on something, then flashes up a bad image

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 16:30
You want something that pushings the limits. Watch The Hills Have Eyes. and not the old version. The recent version is awesome.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 17:15
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did kinda act as the "twist" but it's just the lame violence I'm refering to. Guy being burned to death in an oven? Please.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 17:30 Edited at: 20th Mar 2006 17:31
is the hills have eyes a good movie?

for a new horror i cant wait for silent hill to come out that is going to be one of those eeeeeeeeeek movies.


or is it?


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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 17:48
I did watch Cannibal Holocaust (or whatever it's called, I forget) where it was originally banned beacause the authorities thought the cannibalism scenes were real. It was very grotesque and realistic, but it was one of those ones that balance on the line between Hollywood sick real and stomach-turning, should I even be watching this? real. The music in that movie was really eerie, and the main theme was so remembrable, I caught myself humming it for days after.

Saw II was alright, but the original was better. Saw II was in theatres on my birthday, so I treated myself. The wife didn't want to go, as her idea of a scary movie is Scream, etc. (predictable teenie slasher flicks).

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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 18:11
Personally I think House Of Wax is the most gorry film I've ever seen, probably not THE most gorry to all though, if you actually are a proper horror fan


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Posted: 20th Mar 2006 19:35
house of wax wasnt gorry the obly gross parts were when paris hilton got a steak through her head and when that one guys friend tried to take the wax off of him. oh yha and another thing in that movie was when the girl go her lips super glued. *ouch*

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And where she puts her finger through the vent to see if there was any help and then the psycho's brother comes over and snips the top of her finger off with a wire cutter! Ooooo!


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Quote: "made me wonder why no-one's made a film about what happens when the army/general public try to regain control of their country"


I dont think a british film maker would do that, cos it'd cost an arm and a leg ...... ... no pun intended. 28days later is clearly low budget, BUT, it's good for a low budget film - no doubt, and it looks decent enough.

Romero's final film is almost the army take over you're talking about, but not quite. Land of the Dead is kinda armies living with the zombies that rule the world, and taking them down in big numbers, but the zombies still win. That's the worst film of the quadrilogy though, which is a shame. I had high hopes for it. It's lame really.

The very first one (Night of the Living Dead) ends with some soldiers taking out the zombies. The second one (Dawn of the Dead) has a few scenes where soldiers are killing off some zombies, and the third one (Day of the Dead) is all about soldiers and scientists working together in a nuclear bunker to figure out how to kill off the zombies (which now outnumber humans by abour 300,000 to 1).

I think that's the idea of zombie films though, is that, zombies are weak (in older ones anyway), but it's their sheer number that dominate, and they'll never be destroyed. The classic zombie films continue the horror beyond the end of the movie, hinting that mankind is truely in deep shizzle.

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yah the finger thing must hurt. when it shows it it goes crunch

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Saw II was hardly revolting, and hardly exciting either. I enjoyed it, mind you, but as Megaton said some of the traps were lame. Like the one where the gun shoots by the door, i think through the keyhole, I'm almost positive that I used to use that in Dungeons and Dragons (minus the gun, plus some kind of evil poison dart ) The ending also had me sorely disappointed.

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Posted: 21st Mar 2006 04:19 Edited at: 21st Mar 2006 04:22
The razor trap was lame. How long did it take dude to build that thing, like a month? I'm sorry to tell him that he wasted his time. The whole gun in the door thing was kind of lame too. The guy in front of it wasn't even messing with the door. Who's to say anyone at all would have gotten shot?

In any event, I found the cancer patient mastermind compelling, and I enjoyed learning more about him. And the detective kind of reminded me of Bruce Willis, so I found him interesting as well. I HATED the female cop. She was there to keep the plot moving and annoy me. Terrible acting.

I didn't find the movie revolting, but the picture on the DVD case sure was.

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lol yah the fingernails

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See Hostel

sorry if that was posted before!
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or a grotesque movie is ummmmmm final destination3 im meen like that wierd wasy th epeople died.

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Quote: "And the detective kind of reminded me of Bruce Willis"


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Hostel is like a F(*&$ed up version of EuroTrip.

Far as I'm concerned, they're just movies and therefore have no boundaries.


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I envy saw 2....i love it


it was awesome...
i would merry it

if it was legal.

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Well, thankfully it's not legal or at all possible for you to 'merry' a movie. I'd hook up with a couple of the women, though. All at the same time

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besides *sorry for the double post im lazy....*


if i were to make a movie...itd be like...hostel and saw 2 and saw 1 mixxed together


im making the scripts for it...

mutations and stuffs

in one scene a person gets stabbed with a needle injects it and it starts rapidly mutatiting him

as he still has control over his body he jabbes a metal shaft into the under part of his chin and as he realizes its not killing him fast enough he realizes a wire spinning on gears...so as hes laying on the ground from shock of the bleeding...he crawls over to the spinning wire...and slams his head on it...cutting off the top 1/3 of his head...

thats like gonna be the least gorey scene right there
but like i said i envy saw 2 lol

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Posted: 23rd Mar 2006 09:26
Quote: "Far as I'm concerned, they're just movies and therefore have no boundaries."


You have to have boundaries, films can mess up your mind. For example, I used to be afraid of Nightmare On Elm Street, but now it just looks tame. The fact that it looks tame means that my level of tollerence has increased due to being submitted to more violent movies. If my tollerence has increased, then it makes sense that my tollerence to seeing say... a real life car accident has increased. If my tollerence to seeing someones head actually being cut off has increased then you do not want a 'murderer' to have their tollerences increased too much.

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well fortunately for me, i can differentiate between movies and reality. I hate racism and want to kill anyone who shows it publicly. (like those stupid KKK walks through downtown) But when I see it in movies, (american history x, great movie btw) i'm not bothered by it.


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Quote: "But when I see it in movies, (american history x, great movie btw) i'm not bothered by it."

When racism is depicted in a movie, it's addressing a social issue, and there is resolution. In reality, if you see something like that, there probably won't be any resolution. Perhaps rioting and looting though...

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Posted: 23rd Mar 2006 16:54 Edited at: 23rd Mar 2006 16:54
I dunno how you guys can watch horror movies and be scared every time. The first 5-10 horror films I ever watched must have been scary, but becoming so jaded afterwards, I simply found bloody deaths in moveis like Final Destination 3 to be funny. : /

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yah final destitnation 3 that movie was bloooooooodyyyyyy.

ok i went to the movies yesterday and whent and saw the hills have eyes. that movie messes with you.

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Hostel, well I was really disapointed, same with Saw, and Saw2 - I'm too desensitiesed, to be honest, I get more disturbed by the weird baddies in Mighty Boosh than anything Hollywood has produced .

I mean, Land of the Dead was a comedy surely. I enjoyed Dawn of the Dead, the remake was actually decent I thought, nice and violent, wicked zombies, annoying characters getting pwnd, zombie babies (or baby zombie, ahah!).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying 'if your freaked at that your a pussy', I'm saying that these new fangled horror movies largely suck.

Take Alien2 as people have already mentioned, that's my favourite movie, it's classic, and movies will never be as good as that again.

The most entertaining movies I've watched recently:
The Warriors, and the original Hills Have Eyes. These are movies from the 70's, and they kick ass compared to this new crud. Hills has been remade, haven't seen the remake but damn the original is cool - I love the scene with Mercury just before he get's killed, I just thought the relationship the freak brothers portrayed was very honest, like your the scum of the earth and a complete moron, but your my bruv . I like quirky movies like that.

Hostel gave a good murky impression of modern eurotrash, but then they had to go all Merican and start with the stupid revenge ending. I'd say I prefered Saw to Hostel, but for that style of horror, Se7en is still the best, closely followed by Silence ot Lambs.


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yah like zombie movies they are usally pretty good. i like the new resident evil compared to the old one.

an di havent seen the origanil hills have eyes. from what a friend said about the origanal they both sound the same(old, and remade)

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I don't really watch those kinds of horror movies. Blood, guts and death as horrors don't appeal to me.
If I must say, though, http://happytreefriends.com is probably some of the goriest stuff I've seen.

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Quote: "Hostel gave a good murky impression of modern eurotrash, but then they had to go all Merican and start with the stupid revenge ending. I'd say I prefered Saw to Hostel, but for that style of horror, Se7en is still the best, closely followed by Silence ot Lambs."


Do you consider Se7en a horror though? I wouldn't have thought Hostel was in even remotely the same league as se7en or SoLambs, they are pure psychological thrillers (and well acted!), whereas Hostel is, well.. not Nothing is left to the imagination, and none of it is that well acted. Not that you expect horrors to win Oscars or anything.

Personally I find nearly all zombie movies comedies, I guess 28 Days was a good exception though!

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a good zombie comedy was shaun of the dead.

the resident evils and land of the dead wernt comedy.

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And movies like Final Destination 3 are *supposed* to be comedies. True horror is not something that leaps on the screen and makes you jump--- leave that to those crappy teenie slashers like Scream and I Know What You Did Last Summer.

Like Van B said, Hostel turned all stupid in the last half. It was building up for a great premise, then it turned into a Bugs Bunny cartoon. Not cool.

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28 Days was quality, damn sick, sicker than Saw2 and Hostel, but it's tough to watch, like maybe we actually like it when every single thing happens in (to) America, Britain would be one creepy zombie invasion, just as soon as anyone noticed . Danny Boyle just had to show a dead baby again though, I hate that. Sean was great, has to be watched several times but I still crease up at the Queen song battle. It's nice to see a zombie movie by obvious zombie nuts, as slow as it is going I can't help liking Sean in the same way that I liked Spaced, British-geek humour I suppose.

What brought Se7en to mind was the direct rip off that Saw turned out to be, like Se7en had this dark edge like Lambs, but damn that skinny dude with the magic tree's scared the bejesus out of me!. I think that Se7en had lots of good elements from horror (not seeing the perpetrator straight away for instance) but yeah I agree, it would be considered psychological thriller.

The new Red Dragon is really good, it actually follows the book as oposed to the original movie effort, well worth the £5 ASDA's probably charge for it these days. Hopkins is the only Hannibal Lecter.


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