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Darth Vader
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Posted: 1st May 2006 08:42
So does this all mean I can use coke to get rid of the rust on my bike safely?

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Posted: 1st May 2006 09:40
Um...I wouldn't think so. It will probably harm the paint as much as the rust. It only works on chromed surfaces, if at all, which is much different than paint

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Posted: 1st May 2006 10:17 Edited at: 1st May 2006 10:18
Well I go weeks without drinking water and have done so most of my life. I drink waaay too much mountain dew. How am I alive? I drink a gallon of skim milk and either apple or orange juice every week. I eat about once a day and my metabolism is still very high.

I believe I'm also addicted to caffiene, so I'll take that coke now please.

p.s. I heard ice tea deminishes your sperm count.


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Posted: 1st May 2006 10:19
If they didn't have free purified water at work then I wouldn't be drinking water either. My wife doesn't like any kind of sugar juice or pop so we don't have anything but water, tea, and coffee at home.

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Posted: 1st May 2006 14:33
Woaw, we have some apparant science whizes in here eh?


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Posted: 1st May 2006 14:38
Quote: "I drink waaay too much mountain dew."


I'm with you man. *chugs another*

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Posted: 1st May 2006 15:26
Mountain dew has some weird stigma over here. When we were at school back in 95-96, someone started spreading a rumour that Mountain Dew gave you ball cancer. Not sure whether we believed it, but either way, as kids are, it got stigmatized. Now nobody I know drinks or touches the stuff.

Could've been cokes covert propaganda campaign.

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Posted: 1st May 2006 17:40
Anyone remember Surge? That used to be the only thing in the pop machines around school, for about a year. It was always sold out, but suddenly disappeared. It's like the whole McRib, once you got hooked they took it away.


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Posted: 1st May 2006 21:03
Quote: "Ohh..I think I know where I went wrong. In high school we didn't use pure HCL, only a percentage of HCL in water. But we had to store it in glass containers because the plastic ones we had would dissolve it. Sorry for the confusion..."


uhh, hcl is hyrdochloric acid not hydroflouric acid. very different properties. and yes xander the non chemist, hydroflouric acid can eat a glass jar. so.... dont try this at home okay ?
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Posted: 1st May 2006 21:26
Being that I'm a hardcore coca cola fanboy of the utmost caliber, I'm here to officially SUPPORT coca cola and all of it's fantastical properties. Also, I'm going to point out some FACTS about my own experience with coca cola which, unless I'm some sort of odd walking-talking anamoly, proves that Coke isn't NEARLY as bad for you as everyone says/ thinks. First off...

Quote: "1. In many states (in the USA) the highway patrol carries two gallons of coke in the truck to remove blood from the highway! after a car accident."

If they do that, they definitely don't do it in New York, as my cop neighbor explained... they don't clean it up at all, the department of highway safety or whatever does (the people who actually clean up the mess). In fact, I've never heard of a cop cleaning up a mess after a car accident, it's usually left to highway maintenance people. At least that's how it's done in the Northeast

Quote: "2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of Coke and it will be gone in two days"

Not true in the least. We heard this MYTH in college and tested it out in a friend's dorm room... two weeks went by, and while it smelled like a combination of a skunk's anus and a central park bum's tongue after he licked his own under-garments, it wasn't deteriorated by any means.

Quote: "3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl and let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid in Coke removes stains from vitreous China."

Just tried this with a 12 ounce can of coca cola classic... didn't work. Go try it yourself

Quote: "4. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a rumpled-up piece of Reynolds wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola."

This, I'll admit, is true. My uncle claims it also works with onions... but I'm allergic to onions, so I won't try it, lol

Quote: "5. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion."

I've never tried this one, but if Curtiss says it worked for him, then I'll believe it

Quote: "6. To loosen a rusted bolt: Applying a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the rusted bolt for several minutes."

If it works on a bumper, why not... but again, that's steel, not your innards

Quote: "7. To bake a moist ham: Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan, wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is finished, remove the foil, allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke for a sumptuous brown gravy."

This is a negative thing? It sounds like a recipe

Quote: "8. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into a load of greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains."

Whenever I've spilled coke on something white, it stained it... I don't see how this one would work

Quote: "9. It will also clean road haze from your windshield."

It's sticky. Maple syrup or honey would have the same effect, I'd assume.

Quote: "1. The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It will dissolve a nail in about 4 days.
Phosphoric acid also leaches calcium from bones and is a major contributor to the rising increase in osteoporosis."

Also tested, also not true. Have you actually tried this yourself? You should. While the nail will get sticky, it won't dissolve. I've heard this over and over again and repeatedly I've proven it wrong, as has anyone whose tried it in science class

Quote: "2. To carry Coca-Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must use the Hazardous material place cards reserved for Highly corrosive materials."

The concentrate for fountain coke (like you'd find in most fast food joints) comes in kegs. For small-owned local places, like pizza joints, those kegs are bottled in local bottling plants near your home and shipped in standard bread-style trucks. For companies like McDonalds, Burger King, and Wendy's, it's shipped in Corporate-owned trucks. Neither of which have a hazardous materials sign on them. The next time you see a McDonald's truck, try to find it and please, try to take a picture of it with your cell phone if indeed you do find it (which you won't)

Quote: "3. The distributors of Coke have been using it to clean the engines of their trucks for about 20 years!"

Also not true, according to Coca Cola itself

What you should have mentioned is that Coca Cola's main ingredient back in the 1920's was COCAINE. THAT would have been a good negative thing to mention, and that, unlike most of the other things you've listed, is actually true.

Now for my experience: I'm 26 and I've been drinking coke since I was about 4 years old. I've only had one cavity and I've never, ever had any sort of bone troubles... and how often do I drink a glass of water? Maybe once a year. I live off of coke... in fact, I'm drinking a can of it right now. In high school I was on the soccer (football to you UKers) team, right-forward position on the field (in the thick of it), and NEVER was I fatigued any more than the other players. I did however get in a lot of trouble AFTER the SECOND SEASON when I was caught drinking coke in the locker room instead of water. Besides being about 15 pounds overweight (which I blame on my dependence on Pizza and cheeseburgers much moreso than I blame on what I drink), I'm in perfect physical condition. I rarely get sick, I'm not tired in the middle of the day, none of that. While I won't go so far as to claim that Coke is good for you, I DEFINITELY think that coke isn't NEARLY as bad for you as some people try to pretend. And that, my friends, is a fact

Quote: "Anyone ever try drinking a hot coke? Better than Chocolate Milk!!!"

I tried heating it up in the microwave just now after you said that... and I must say it's not bad at all. My mom used to drink Dr. Pepper that was heated up and she still does it from time to time. I guess it's like the ice-coffee thing, hehe.

Sorry if this sounded flamey... didn't intend it that way. But GAWD I hate health freaks. I smoke cigarettes, I drink coca cola, I eat crappy foods, and THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT HEALTH FREAKS!!!!


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Posted: 1st May 2006 22:34
Ok.


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Posted: 1st May 2006 22:40
Quote: "uhh, hcl is hyrdochloric acid not hydroflouric acid. very different properties. and yes xander the non chemist, hydroflouric acid can eat a glass jar"


Oops...I need to learn not to talk unless someone asks me a question, I keep making a fool of myself on here

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Posted: 1st May 2006 23:01 Edited at: 1st May 2006 23:02
Matt Rock, you are my hero.

About me to begin with: I am physically fit, I do 2 or 6 mile runs every night. I've never had any work done on my teeth, and my dentist who I visited last month officially said that I don't have to see him for 10 years!

I drink, on a school day 2 bottles of Coke a day. On a full day of work I drink 4 or 5 cans. And IT HAS DONE NO DAMAGE!
If I'm at home for a day I'll go through one or more 2 litre bottles no problem.

Everybody complains about Coke, and then they do much worse things to themselves like drink and smoke and get no exercise. (I dont' drink or smoke)

I hate Coke nay-sayers. Water tastes of nothing. There are much worse things for you out there.

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Posted: 2nd May 2006 00:15
Quote: "Oops...I need to learn not to talk unless someone asks me a question, I keep making a fool of myself on here "

no worries, its not just you , plenty of people hurt themselves every year screwing around with chemicals.

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Posted: 2nd May 2006 00:24
Gah, I can't believe you guys can drink that much sugar. There's literally table spoons of pure sugar in a small can of coke.

@Drew - You're still young. Just wait until you're in your 30s and 40s--- if you keep that up you're not going to be in great shape.

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Posted: 2nd May 2006 00:37
Besides, if someone that young is in good shape with that terrible of a diet, imagine how capable they could be with a proper diet...

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Posted: 2nd May 2006 01:30
Water makes me feel sick :/

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Posted: 2nd May 2006 01:33
*insert sarcy comment here*

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Posted: 2nd May 2006 01:40
Quote: "I've never tried this one, but if Curtiss says it worked for him, then I'll believe it"

I never liked pouring coke on batteries, because it was messy. It left brown sticky syrup all over the battery, which annoyed me. I'd rather scrub the terminal than take a dumb shortcut like this.

Quote: "Besides, if someone that young is in good shape with that terrible of a diet, imagine how capable they could be with a proper diet..."

That's exactly it. Most young people don't take care of themselves until it's too late. They take for granted their 'perfect physical conditioning', confusing youthful health with fitness. Too much sugar, for instance, is just bad. Even if you can metabolize it, it's bad for your pancreas. Your pancreas, which produces insulin to metabolize the sugar, is like a small overworked engine that is separate from the rest of your body. Your kidneys are the same. The more chemicals and salt and high concentrations of sugar you consume, the more work they have to do. Once they're gone, they're gone.
I want to keep my kidneys. For this reason, I try to balance things - drink enough water, when I eat something salty or drink alcohol or consume caffeine, I drink more water. It must makes sense.


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Posted: 2nd May 2006 15:28
Yeah you guys are right, I can't keep it up forever.

I'll probably pack it in soon, I could do with saving the money too.

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@ Cash
Couldn't you pour water over your battery terminal after pouring coke over it? I mean, I doubt it would do any damage since you did pour coke, but I would assume it to drain off all the stick residue. I don't know, try it yourself?

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Posted: 2nd May 2006 19:10
Quote: "So over a 4 hour period I drank 8 cans of redbull. "


once on a bikeride i wanted to lighten the load i was carrying so downed 4 red bulls straight.

i consequently passed out while going very fast (if i told you how fast you wouldnt believe me) on my bike down a hill, very painful.

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Posted: 2nd May 2006 19:44
Owie.


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Posted: 2nd May 2006 20:42
Hah, up in San Diego, California, there is this hill, and when you go down, you can get 55mph with no gas or brake or anything, and that is with a vehicle. Now with a bike, owwww.

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 01:04
I dunno, I'm 26 and shy of gaining a bit of weight in the past year I'm still in the same condition I was in in high school, even with all the coke. I think everyone should be allowed a few vices... coke is one of mine


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Well, Last year I found out which foods I'm allergic to, and have pretty much stopped eating them, as well as switched water to the main liquid I drink. Since then, I've gone from being 165 pounds to being 140 pounds, and have had more energy. Not really a diet, I just started eating right... I hadn't been considered out of shape, but now I'm definitely in shape...

Really, even if you think you're in shape, you're not in nearly as good shape as you'd be if you took care of yourself.

Quote: "I've never had any work done on my teeth"

Darn you…
I had braces and they made it twice as hard to speak While I had them.

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 04:10 Edited at: 3rd May 2006 04:11
Wow, are you serious?

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Up in San Diego? Where do you live, Mexico?

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 04:45
Quote: "Wow, are you serious?"


Duh...is it really hard to figure out for some people that eating right and exercising makes you feel so much better and have so much more energy, both mentally and physically?

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Yeah, I watched it about a month ago. It was pretty good. Really though, I was hoping that the two main geishas would decide men were worthless and hook up. It didn't happen though. Oh well, I can dream...



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I just don't think drinking coke is a sin, nor will it kill you or really have a serious negative effect on your health. Drinking alchohol or doing drugs or smoking... that's different. But cola? Any difference would hardly be noticeable, I think. Then again, I've never tried so I wouldn't know But if *I* ran the world, drinking Coke would be mandatory There'd also be a law against anyone making pizza without training in New York (or Chicago I suppose), because if you've ever eaten a non-NY slice of pizza, and you've never eaten a true slice, then you're depraved!


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Quote: "There'd also be a law against anyone making pizza without training in New York (or Chicago I suppose), because if you've ever eaten a non-NY slice of pizza, and you've never eaten a true slice, then you're depraved!"


My mom is from Chicago, and she makes homemade pizza, the real way, from scratch, does that count in your standards?

Quote: "I just don't think drinking coke is a sin, nor will it kill you or really have a serious negative effect on your health"


It's certainly not a sin in my view...and it won't kill you directly, but the caffiene, if constantly ingested, will have serious negative effects on your sleeping habits. Most people think that if you fall asleep in a decent amount of time and don't wake up at night then you're sleeping just fine. Not true at all. Caffiene keeps your body on a sort of "high alert", and can raise your heart rate, causing sleep that is not very deep, you may not even go into REM. This is no good sleep at all, and doesn't give your body the true rest that it needs.

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 07:24 Edited at: 3rd May 2006 07:26
Quote: "Wow, are you serious?"

Yes.

Matt,
I think you're right; coke isn't as bad for you as alcholol or smoking, but really, you could be a lot better. Also, try not drinking any soda or really sweet drink for a month, and then try a coke. I garentee it will taste 1000 times better than if you drink it all the time. If I'm wrong, go back to the store yo bought it in and demand your money back.

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