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enablerbr
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Posted: 11th May 2006 22:57
as the i live in the UK and low on cash. the nearest i can get to E3 is by watching the trailers provided on fileplanet subscribers. anyway sofar i've watched the Sony and the Microsoft presentations. i think the Microsoft was more entertaining. with some nice details about future cross device intergration.
however i found myself nearly falling a sleep watching the Sony presentation. it just came across to me as a last minute thought. was a lot less polished.
i've yet to watch the Nintendo presentaion.
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Posted: 11th May 2006 23:02
The Nintendo was the best.

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Posted: 11th May 2006 23:07
i'm grabbing that 1 now. i bet i reach my download cap for this month thanks to E3.

oh i did like the new Sony controller. looked good for that flight game.
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Posted: 11th May 2006 23:08
And the Wiimote isn't?

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Posted: 11th May 2006 23:09
not seen the presentation yet. i've only got 8mbit adsl.
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Posted: 11th May 2006 23:10 Edited at: 11th May 2006 23:11
Quote: "not seen the presentation yet. i've only got 8mbit adsl."


I've seen all three, I'm on 2mbit....

Nintendo's was the most exciting, but I really loved Microsofts as well, since I'm a Xbox 360 owner.

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Posted: 11th May 2006 23:20
I've only got 512k - I've seen them all here in the UK. Average download speed? 160kb/s, not bad all in all.

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Posted: 11th May 2006 23:34
Sony have completely ripped off Nintendo with their controller. If you like the PS3 remote, you'll love the Wiimote.

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Posted: 12th May 2006 00:29
yeah i agree with the wiiremote and the other controller. looks like loads of fun to be had with fighting games. though i don't see a use for uk football/ us soccer.

also that wii name sort of grows on you.
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Posted: 12th May 2006 01:47
Quote: "not seen the presentation yet. i've only got 8mbit adsl."

ONLY?! Woow, you don't know you're born you.

Anyway, I think the best controller at the moment is the xbox - fits nicely in to my hands. I think the ps2 controllers are too small and the nintendo ones are just... weird. Then again, I have been told i've got big hands

I haven't had a chance to check out the new controllers for the new consoles from sony and nintendo, but if this wii remote is what I think it is from the pictures I saw a long time ago, I certainly won't be impressed.

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Posted: 12th May 2006 01:54
Those original Xbox controllers were the bomb. High five for big handed people. The Wiimote looks much more comfy though, to each his own.


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Posted: 12th May 2006 02:35
Quote: "i've yet to watch the Nintendo presentaion. "

I'll tell you right now that Nintendo won. Hands down, no competition.
The Wiimote is pretty much the greatest thing yet. Nintendo has made it pull off everything they promised and far more.

Quote: "nintendo ones are just... weird."

Obviously you haven't really seen one in action. Go watch the Nintendo conference.
There's a reason Nintendo's booths are the most crowded and so many on this forum is raving about the Wii...

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WOW, can't wait to check this stuff out.
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Posted: 12th May 2006 03:19
MS is taking a stance with Nintendo against the Sony PS3 I heard.


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Sony so lost. Only fanboys will get this junk heap of a console

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Posted: 12th May 2006 03:43
Quote: "Sony have completely ripped off Nintendo with their controller. "


No they didn't. Nintendo was not the first to offer a tilt-sensitive controller. And by that same breath you could say Nintendo and Microsoft completely ripped of Sony's rumble-stick (of which Sony has a patent on).

Either way, I'm no fanboy of any system. I will most likely buy the Wii because most of the Nintendo games I've played recently were top quality (and I get a game system discount from work )

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Posted: 12th May 2006 03:57
Holy crap how much goes off a $200-300 console

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Posted: 12th May 2006 04:03 Edited at: 12th May 2006 04:04
Jeku,

Although I don't exactly think that Ninty was the father of tilt-sensitive controllers, the Wii-mote isn't exactly a tilt-sensitive controller. It senses a lot more than that. The PS3 controller, on the other hand, doesn't.

But I still think that that Sony was at least influenced by the praise of the Wii-mote into adding tilt-sensitive technologies. It's not a rip-off, but it is, in my mind, a bit of a "hey, their idea works well, let's use something kind of similar to it, but make it not intergral."

I doubt Sony will make major use of the function anyway. And the whole idea about "reflexes"? Majorly stereotypical. I do sometimes get "happy" when I complete a level and do the whole "yank the cord" thing, but it's not like it happens every time. Too unreliable as I see it.

But I was annoyed when Sony labelled the Wii (albeit anonymously), a "gimmick", and called the tilt-sensitive PS3 controller an "innovation". Ironic, no?


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Posted: 12th May 2006 04:12
Although i couldn't care less about where they got the idea, read this.

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3blog.html?topic_id=24600407

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Posted: 12th May 2006 05:32
Sonys rumble stick. doesn't that belong to someone else and sony liecened it. then got agro when Sony tried to reuse it again for the ps3?
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Posted: 12th May 2006 06:25
The DualShock came out a year after Nintendo's rumble pak as well.

MS's conference was a lot more interesting than Sony's. Kaz Hirai needed to just stop quoting sales statistics and show off the darned games.


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Posted: 12th May 2006 07:10
Perhaps they were trying to make the point that more people have purchased the XBOX 360 over the PS3 and the Wii. I wonder how that happened.

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Posted: 12th May 2006 11:27 Edited at: 12th May 2006 11:29
The Press Conference videos are free to view on this site...

CLICK NEXT A FEW TIMES ON THE LEFT.

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/platform/Wii

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Posted: 12th May 2006 13:15
They have been on Gamespot for a couple of days now... For free.

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Posted: 12th May 2006 17:27
Quote: "They have been on Gamespot for a couple of days now... For free."

Though in a very low qality. I used IGN to see the conferences as it´s flash based player streams very well. In wmp I don´t even see anything.
Quote: "not seen the presentation yet. i've only got 8mbit adsl."

I´m on 1mb and the quality I can see streamed is quite good. Very small but big enough to note the graphics of games.

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Posted: 12th May 2006 20:41
Flash streams are blocky and slow.

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Posted: 12th May 2006 21:35
I've seen both Sonys and Microsofts CPs' now, and personally I felt that Sony didn't even bother trying. There was no feeling that this was the unveiling of a new console that is going to burst next-generation games to your living room and more about how this console is going to be a performance beastie; with the cost that goes with it.

I was honestly quite enthrawled throughout the entire Microsoft presentation... it was no where close to as good as Nintendo last year who got me buzzing with almost no mention of their console; but still was bloody awesome, well until Gates came on-stage and it became a snoozefest. Is it just me, or does Gates sound like Kermit the Frog?

Well anyways, I was seriously impressed more this year by not what games were comming out soon; but more how they're begining to change how the player interacts with their environment.

Gears of War looks freaking awesome! Why? Because of it's graphics? No, as it looks like Doom 3 on speed; simply because the level of interactivity the player seems to get with the environments.

Shadowgrounds is another game that impressed me, not due to graphics; but the team play and how you seem to play the game (i'm downloading the demo on Steam atm to check it out)

All I can see from this year isn't "this is going to be a graphically amazing game" like everyone was pushing last year, but "this game is going to immerse you with quality gameplay, while still bringing that nexgen feel".

Nintendo have known for a while now, that players don't need top-notch graphics to enjoy themselves... they need QUALITY, and GAMEPLAY. Microsoft have obviously learnt this, while bringing their own personal experience of connecting everyone so they can enjoy everything either solo or as a group.

I own each of the current generation consoles, and have regular access to a 360 (after some **** sole mine when they broke in last month)... and honestly what Sony seem to bring to the table is just a few gimmics and the hope that their name and technology will bring them out on-top.

Reality is, we all know what happened to the Nintendo64. Sony look like their making all of Nintendo's past mistakes.. Microsoft and Nintendo are thinking of the gamer first; not as a means.

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don't you mean Shadowrun and thats not on steam. yep i thought Sony just did a last minute grab for their show. in terms of games being exlcusive to PS3 only MSG interests me. i'm not planing to pay over £400+ for the top console just for 1 title. i heard the basic cheap console with the 20GB hd doesn't come with wifi or HDMI. unlike the XBOX360 you won't be able to add-on.
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Ok seriously guys Yes the Sony confrence was boring as hell, will that stop me from buying a playstation 3? No. Thank you to Jeku for pointing out that Nintendo did NOT invent their little "Gimmick" (lol its interesting in theory and it looks cool but I agree that I think itll get old and people will just use the add ons.) Also I want to metion that while the Nintendo Wii uses a sensor on the television to track MOTION the sony controller will be entirely wireless and inside the controller and it tracks TILT and YAW. Besides at least the Sony controller doesnt look like a remote, it actually looks like a controller. Another thing I want to point out that most people dont seem to see in the Wii is the fact that wait.... Wont people get tired of flipping their arms around for hours on end trying to play their game on the Wii? I mean come on do you people actually think it is physically possible to wave your arm around for any longer then maybe if your lucky an hour? I mean I tried doing it and its impossible. At least the sony controller has the ability to double back on the dual shock controller amd you wont feel the pain because YOU DONT HAVE TO USE YOUR ARMS ALL THE TIME. It is a gimmick but itll be fun. And then when your tired of the gimmick you can go back to traditional style play. Yes I know the Wii has that controller thing to but I mean they were really lauding this whole Remote thing, unfortunately the only people who will be able to play with it for very long will be weight lifters and body builders with strong arms. Please consider that when you go buy a Wii. Oh and yes Microsoft has teamed up with nintendo saying that people should buy the Wii and the 360 and not a PS3. You know what that tells me? that tells me that microsoft is afraid of the Playstation 3 and are not afraid of the Wii. Because seriously who can be afraid of a systems who's slogan is Playing is Believing? And no the Wii name will never grow on me. When i do purchase the revolution at a cheap cheap price I will call it the revolution, im not gay and I dont feel like asking everyone if they want to come down to my place and check out my wii.

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POSTSCRIPT I do not have a serious sony streak I do love the X360 for some things such as GRAW and I do enjoy nintendo games but im getting really pissed off at all you people bashing sony, seriously when it comes to games Sony has traditionally brought out the most and some of the best. Yes XBOX has Halo and Nintendo has their characters to fall back on but Playstation has always been an all around system. Oh and Enable I think you meant to say MGS not MSG, Metal gear solid not Monosodium Glutimate or whatever the G stands for, I can never remember. I love all the systems and I dont want you bashing one or the other. Bash the crappy games if you must but please dont insult the system. Unless the name is Gay. Like Wii. You can insult the wii name. Oh and By the way when I went on a rant about the wii controller im not bashing the system Im bashing nintendos loss of common sense because just look at the facts. A gay name and A controller that is hard to use. Hmm.

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Quote: "A gay name and A controller that is hard to use. Hmm."


Code Spinneker> Hard to use? Are you kidding me? What's easier to use than a REMOTE CONTROL... I mean seriously, people use these things every day. What's so hard about it?

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Posted: 14th May 2006 08:40 Edited at: 14th May 2006 08:40
Quote: "I love all the systems and I dont want you bashing one or the other. Bash the crappy games if you must but please dont insult the system. Unless the name is Gay. Like Wii. You can insult the wii name."
Great, a Sony fanboy..

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Posted: 14th May 2006 08:43
Wii will reduce the number of phat gamers.

I have TV remotes 2 or 3 times the size of the Wiimote and I can hold those up and wave them around for hours. I've done it too, staying up late watching movies with friends, having to constantly adjust the volume for when action scenes come up and people won't stop waving their stupid heads around so I can find that tiny little sensor point in the stereo cabinet. It's really not that bad, and I'm not weight lifter. Haven't you ever played arcade shooters like House of the Dead or Time Crisis? Time Crisis has a footpedal and I was able to still go at that for hours holding the awkward gun with a half broken case (trashy arcade...).

Quote: "Also I want to metion that while the Nintendo Wii uses a sensor on the television to track MOTION the sony controller will be entirely wireless and inside the controller and it tracks TILT and YAW."

Have you seen the sensor? It's quite small and sleek. By the way MOTION includes rotation, where as apparently Sony just has rotation and maybe (I'm still confused on this) detecting which direction you attempt to hurl the controller.

Quote: "im not gay and I dont feel like asking everyone if they want to come down to my place and check out my wii."

Are you a homophobe?

I think that the main concern for the market appeal of the name is in the immature student demographic. Although that may not be much of a concern because many Joe schmoes at my school think the name is funny and are getting a real kick out of hopefully getting Wii for Christmas. Would you like a Wii for Christmas? Hehheh. Also, check out my site with a massive population of about 20 people ( ) and you will see everything spelled "Xbox Three-sixtii, Playstation Thrii". The goofy YTMNDs also help.


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It's not about invention, its about implementation and progression. Nintendo also did not invent videogames, television, or electricity, but that doesn't make the Wii any less cool or fun. Wii and PS3 are two different things, in the way that making pancakes and poptarts are two different things. Nintendo also wants to be the 2nd console, and IMO, its because they don't want to be caught up in a race thats not heading their direction.

If that controller hurts your arms while playing, you may need to consider weight training of some sort, starting small with 1lb weights and moving up from there. My guess is that you've been to a theme park, or done something that required you to be up and active all day. If a quarter pound remote is more intensive than sports or walking or something, then I invite in my new exersize regiment.

Most motions can be done with your wrist, and a lot of the footage shown was more than a little exaggerated. The big point about the Wii is that it's a fun console to play for more than one demographic, so active people don't have to sit down and slob on sodas and halo all day, they can feel a part of the game. It's more about pleasing as many people as possible, not the gaming community (who also seems to recieve this very well).

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well i think the design of the remote makes the rotation sensors usefull, i cant imagine the ps3 controller being of any use with the sensors and removing the shock just for that is pretty stupid, i personally think that the wii, will win because its something new and not just better graphics, though better graphics are good having more player interaction will likely win by a long shot.

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Posted: 14th May 2006 12:44 Edited at: 14th May 2006 20:43
Quote: "Ok seriously guys Yes the Sony confrence was boring as hell, will that stop me from buying a playstation 3? No. Thank you to Jeku for pointing out that Nintendo did NOT invent their little "Gimmick" (lol its interesting in theory and it looks cool but I agree that I think itll get old and people will just use the add ons.) Also I want to metion that while the Nintendo Wii uses a sensor on the television to track MOTION the sony controller will be entirely wireless and inside the controller and it tracks TILT and YAW. Besides at least the Sony controller doesnt look like a remote, it actually looks like a controller. Another thing I want to point out that most people dont seem to see in the Wii is the fact that wait.... Wont people get tired of flipping their arms around for hours on end trying to play their game on the Wii? I mean come on do you people actually think it is physically possible to wave your arm around for any longer then maybe if your lucky an hour? I mean I tried doing it and its impossible. At least the sony controller has the ability to double back on the dual shock controller amd you wont feel the pain because YOU DONT HAVE TO USE YOUR ARMS ALL THE TIME. It is a gimmick but itll be fun. And then when your tired of the gimmick you can go back to traditional style play. Yes I know the Wii has that controller thing to but I mean they were really lauding this whole Remote thing, unfortunately the only people who will be able to play with it for very long will be weight lifters and body builders with strong arms. Please consider that when you go buy a Wii. Oh and yes Microsoft has teamed up with nintendo saying that people should buy the Wii and the 360 and not a PS3. You know what that tells me? that tells me that microsoft is afraid of the Playstation 3 and are not afraid of the Wii. Because seriously who can be afraid of a systems who's slogan is Playing is Believing? And no the Wii name will never grow on me. When i do purchase the revolution at a cheap cheap price I will call it the revolution, im not gay and I dont feel like asking everyone if they want to come down to my place and check out my wii."

Post distilled down to:

- you're gay if you buy the Wii

- Sony did it amazingly well, Nintendo cocked up implementation by using a sensor (btw, the nintendo one is also WIRELESS and has accelerometers too

- motion movement is a gimmick. Unless it's used on PS3 games

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Quote: "Ok seriously guys Yes the Sony confrence was boring as hell, will that stop me from buying a playstation 3? No."


Even if it was good, it wouldn't change my opinion on the Playstation3 even one bit.

The Sony Playstation 3:
• Going to hit the market at $700+ (£500+)
• DualShock3 has a Rotation Sensor, but to add this they have removed ForceFeed Back features
• The base system won't have WiFi or HDMI with no possible way to upgrade it
• Sony have guarenteed a game library of 4 games on release, growing to 16 by next E3

The only reason I would buy a Playstation3 is, for Final Fantasy XIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 and/or Killzone 2. Only one of which is going to be a release title. Not being funny but I'm not spending that much money just to play a single game, I made that mistake with the Playstation2. For my gaming tastes that console didn't make sense to buy until only last year!

Quote: "Thank you to Jeku for pointing out that Nintendo did NOT invent their little "Gimmick""


The Wiitroller has been discussed here before in great detail about it's origins. I don't think anyone is denying it's not exactly innovative technology. What is being denied if that Nintendo have added it as a Gimmic, when every game has the ability to use something like this it becomes a standard. This is when it can be fully taken advantage of and become a staple part of a games development. Nintendo added the RumblePak as a 'gimmic' but it's now something that is in almost every modern console game.

Quote: "Also I want to metion that while the Nintendo Wii uses a sensor on the television to track MOTION the sony controller will be entirely wireless and inside the controller and it tracks TILT and YAW. "


I think you need to do your homework boy. The Wiitroller has 3 methods of control.

• InfraRed Screen Motion, which works like the light guns of old.
• Motion Sensiting, which includes Movement, and Rotation in a 3D envrionment.
• Traditional Analog Buttons.

What this adds is, lets say you were playing something like Virtua Tennis. With a standard controller what you'd do is move around the court with your left thumbstick and then hit it differently depending on which button you pressed, and strength determined on how hard you pressed it perhaps. Right?

With the Wiimote you'd simple move around your living/bed-room to move your character around the screen, and swing the controller to hit the ball. But this doesn't mean that will be the ONLY method for controlling the character.

Quote: "Besides at least the Sony controller doesnt look like a remote, it actually looks like a controller. Another thing I want to point out that most people dont seem to see in the Wii is the fact that wait.... Wont people get tired of flipping their arms around for hours on end trying to play their game on the Wii? I mean come on do you people actually think it is physically possible to wave your arm around for any longer then maybe if your lucky an hour? I mean I tried doing it and its impossible. At least the sony controller has the ability to double back on the dual shock controller amd you wont feel the pain because YOU DONT HAVE TO USE YOUR ARMS ALL THE TIME."


Remember there is the Wiitroller, and GameCube Controllers also supported.

Quote: "It is a gimmick but itll be fun. And then when your tired of the gimmick you can go back to traditional style play. Yes I know the Wii has that controller thing to but I mean they were really lauding this whole Remote thing, unfortunately the only people who will be able to play with it for very long will be weight lifters and body builders with strong arms. Please consider that when you go buy a Wii."


They're not designing games for only top atheletes, obviously because their usebase is going to be made up of a wide spectrum of people. This said, if you can't have 30minutes of exhertion a day atleast I feel very sorry for you. It also means that Wii gamers won't turn into lazy fat blobs, cause their games will keep them active.

Quote: "Oh and yes Microsoft has teamed up with nintendo saying that people should buy the Wii and the 360 and not a PS3."


iirc that was only the Business Representative, which tbh he has always liked Nintendo. In-fact there is a huge amount of respect at Microsoft for Nintendo, which is why the 360 has turned out the way it is. This isn't some sort of "Oh let's get Sony together", this is a simple fact of Sony are about to learn the very hard lesson that the console world doesn't revolve around Power and Names... it revolves around the quality of the games that reach the largest audience. Both Microsoft and Nintendo are trying to out-do each other; that is how I veiw this console war to be fought. Over who can reach the most new gamers, rather than who can pander to the most older gamers.

Things like DVD-HD are nice, but they don't mean much in the grand-scale of things. Microsoft know this. The Playstation 2 sold on it's Multimedia (DVD Capabilities) simply because it was a new technology that very few people had. DVD is now a staple diet, and DVD-HD is the evolution of that in the eyes of Movie Industry. While BluRay is an awesome technology, as with BetaMax; I think Sony are going to miss the boat without putting alot of money and effort into pushing their technology.

Quote: "You know what that tells me? that tells me that microsoft is afraid of the Playstation 3 and are not afraid of the Wii."


Microsoft are unafraid of the Playstation 3.
They're releasing Halo 3 on the day of it's launch, you want to know why? To show, that they are truely not afraid of the Industries giant. They have so much faith that Sony are going to fall they're willing to risk their biggest selling title.

As far as Nintendo go... Microsoft are taking them seriously.
Games like Viva Pinata aren't in development just for kicks, Microsoft are truely looking to help break the childrens market as much as Nintendo are. This is where the true competition lies for this new console generation. Not with the old seasoned gamer, but with the new gamers who are looking for gaming experiences they can enjoy no matter the age.

Quote: "Because seriously who can be afraid of a systems who's slogan is Playing is Believing? And no the Wii name will never grow on me. When i do purchase the revolution at a cheap cheap price I will call it the revolution, im not gay and I dont feel like asking everyone if they want to come down to my place and check out my wii."


That's your choice, to me you sound like a hardened Sony fanboy.
I'm personally a Nintendoid, and the Wii just seems like a step in the right direction gaming wise. This doesn't mean I'm ready to trade in my 360 though; that baby is beyond amazing imo

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Posted: 14th May 2006 13:32
Dunno, for some reason I've managed to swing from PS3 excitement to complete meh mode. And suddenly playing with my Wii doesn't sound so stupid anymore. Esp if the online Jedi battles with light sabres turns out to be good. Gibber.... Heh, would buy it just for that one thing (like my GBAs for Mario Kart pretty much).

Oh, and if no-one has posted it, this video is amusing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFQz98jAcg8

Cheers

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Posted: 14th May 2006 20:17
For someone to be so insecure as to have doubts about their sexuality because of the name of a console blows my mind!

I like the Wii, I'd definitely not think less of someone if they also said they liked the Wii - I'd probably think a little more of them.

As for the need to move with the wiimote, well more power to it. Firstly, though I've done it myself many times - we shouldn't be playing games for 8 hours straight - we should be taking rests and even though the wiimote really doesn't need that much 'energy' put into it, if it helps to remind me to take a rest, great!

Also as someone who uses dance mats, singstar microphones, eyeToys, and guitar hero controllers (note - all PS2 controllers) I'm used to leaping, jumping, posing and rocking in front of my telly. The Wiimote will allow me to do that again, on a whole new system and more. I'm generally not a fan-girl - I'll go where the fun is though.

@Dazzag, funny video. Sad thing is - I'd have run like the rest of them.
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Posted: 14th May 2006 20:43
Quote: "The Nintendo was the best."


I second that, the controller demonstations are great, like with Zelda where you use motion detectors to fire a bow and arrow

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Posted: 14th May 2006 20:57
All we need is Lucasarts to see sense and make a lightsabre game for Wii - especially now the controller has a speaker in that can do the hum. That would be AWESOME.

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Posted: 14th May 2006 21:00
First Person Melee! FPM!

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Posted: 14th May 2006 21:10
Quote: "They're releasing Halo 3 on the day of it's launch, "


This isn't true anymore, as Halo 3 is going to be released in 2007. Microsoft confirmed that they won't release it on the same day.

Also, I don't see that *much* of a problem with Sony removing their vibration to enable tilt-sensing. I see this as more of a step forward. Vibration is a passive feature, but tilt is an active feature.

I'm not a Sony fanboy by any stretch--- I don't own any Sony console.

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Posted: 14th May 2006 21:13
Darn Jeku that sucks, because I was basing my whole sony-lost-with-4-console-purchases theory on halo 3...

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Posted: 15th May 2006 04:34 Edited at: 15th May 2006 04:38
Ok guys sorry for the rant I did go a bit far and I did if you guys caught it mention that the PS3 controller is a gimmick but then youll be able to go back to normal gameplay with the dualshock if you want to, also PS3 is not 700$ even in canadian dollars and even for the best version its cheaper then that. And this whole other thing about not supporting stuff I dont know but I dont think thats true. I will buy a PS3 I will buy a wii I just wont call it a wii, im not a homophobe im just afraid others will think im a homosexual. Also I said I like X360 so please im not a sony fanboy *Picks up his PSP, PS2, PS3 and trashes his DS, XBOX, Gamecube and or other consoles.* lol. PS3 isnt coming out for another 6 months and the games at E3 are only mainly First party or extremely rich third party games. So there will be more games at lauch, and honeslty what games launched with 360? Umm..Call of Duty 2 and a couple other games but nothing really. Im still trying to find some games and I think 360 had no lauch titles, I mean it was cool but there was nothing there. Im am henceforth denying I am a Sony fanboy and Im saying that im a *serious* game fanboy. Oh and geez 6 hours of CONSTANTLY flicking my wrists will hurt your arms guys. Im not talking about pushing buttons on a remote passively.


EDIT: the most expensive version of PS3 will be 659$ canadian. not 700$. Geez it 41 dollars cheaper Only 599$ US guys and thats about how much an X360 cost, so.....

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Posted: 15th May 2006 04:51
Quote: "Only 599$ US guys and thats about how much an X360 cost, so....."


Okay I see you're Canadian too. The X360 Premium was/is $499 CDN, *not* 599. The most expensive X360 bundle I found was from Future Shop, around $700, but that was with something like 3 games.

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Posted: 15th May 2006 04:54
@code spinneker, There's so much I want to say to you right now after that post, but I realized it just wasn't worth the effort to type it.

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Posted: 15th May 2006 05:03
Go canada Go jeku, rock on for the canadian hordes.

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Posted: 15th May 2006 05:42
Haha, I'm with Bizar Guy on this one. Bigotry at its finest.

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