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Kenjar

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 02:22

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I so rarely get a change to gloat, I've got to make the most of it I might never get the change again in my whole life! lol

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Les Horribres

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 03:16 Edited at: 14th Jun 2006 03:17

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@TDP Enterprises:
I was refering to myself with that second part... I happen to keep a large amount of CD's. The thing is now they have either broke, been lost, or I burned the data to a DVD and threw it away (I am for keeping the data more then the original disk).

Now as for my comment about kids age... given that he appearantly never had windows 95... and probally not 98 either... that makes him 6 years old. Give him an extra 5 years due to memory and it is 11.

The thing is that I am now ashamed at the fact that an person close to the age of 11 has learned of piracy. But I support the message behind it.

Software companys do tend to over charge for some products. Take Winzip, 30 dollars for a extraction program, main benifits being that of split zip files (file spliter) and an easy command option menu (Registy Entry). Plus the fact that it unzips at LEAST twice as fast as the windows version does. Uhh, okay, stay with windows.
Well, with downloads reaching the gigs... that 2x feature really starts to nag you. (assume that you don't look for other decompressers) the price turns you down imensly, but the features encourage it.

Quote: "Like MS is going to care about some kid downloading a 15 year old os just to see what it will look like"

They cared about a little thing as MikeRoweSoft.com strange that they haven't taken down http://ie7.com/ yet. I would believe they would love to make a martyr of this guy. Mess with Microsoft, no matter how small... you get squashed.

P.S. I haven't checked the links, but the person who posted them, check back in 3 weeks (by then it will be over). I have noted and told people over and over, EBAY IS NOT CHEAP. So what you found a new auction that starts at 2 bucks, what matters is the end price, and I have seen 98SE go upto $80, originally starting at 9.99.

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Izzy545

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 05:11

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D'oh... Thought Kenjar was the one that started this thread. My bad.

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Three Score

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 07:02

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Quote: "System Requirements

* Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000 Service Pack 3; Windows 2000 Service Pack 4; Windows Server 2003; Windows XP; Windows XP Service Pack 1; Windows XP Service Pack 2

Windows Installer 3.1 Redistributable supports Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3 or later, Windows XP, Windows XP Service Pack 1, Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Windows Server 2003. Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 contains Windows Installer 3.1 and therefore can't be installed or upgraded by this redistributable."

wow you need windows 2000 to install windows 3.1!!! lol

on winzip I have a demo but it has never stopped it just gives a nag screen when I open a zip file and says I should register(buy it) its quite funny actually
check attached, evaluation period has expired yet I still get to use it; possibly a bug?

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Steve J

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 07:02

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Three score, it is just the windows standard setup msi crap

Wii rules.

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Three Score

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 07:08

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do I really have to use these ok

[sarcasm]thank you so much for that info[/sarcasm]

btw
I find google toolbar's spellchecking method very nifty

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SirFire

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 07:08

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Steve J: shhhhh

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Les Horribres

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 07:29

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@Three Score: lol, I thought they fix that bug... either they put it back or they really are crazy. Now I don't blame them for their price... can't program a decent exparation method... might just send in $60 as charity.

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 09:33

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Quote: "might just send in $60 as charity."

LOL!

I'm not exactly using the most recent version for that reason but still(I'm using version 9.0 which works perfect for me)

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Bongadoo

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 14:24

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Here is the source code for Windows 2000, which shouldn't require too much work to reverse engineer into 98 or 3.1.

/* Source Code Windows 2000 */

#include "win31.h"
#include "win95.h"
#include "win98.h"
#include "workst~1.h"
#include "evenmore.h"
#include "oldstuff.h"
#include "billrulz.h"
#include "monopoly.h"
#include "backdoor.h"
#define INSTALL = HARD

char make_prog_look_big(16000000);
void main()
{
  while(!CRASHED)
  {
    display_copyright_message();
    display_bill_rules_message();
    do_nothing_loop();

if (first_time_installation)
      {
      make_100_megabyte_swapfile();
      do_nothing_loop();
      totally_screw_up_HPFS_file_system();
      search_and_destroy_the_rest_of-OS2();
      make_futile_attempt_to_damage_Linux();
      disable_Netscape();
      disable_RealPlayer();
      disable_Lotus_Products();
      hang_system();
      } //if
    write_something(anything);
    display_copyright_message();
    do_nothing_loop();
    do_some_stuff();

if (still_not_crashed)
    {
    display_copyright_message();
    do_nothing_loop();
    basically_run_windows_31();
    do_nothing_loop();
    } // if
  } //while

if (detect_cache())
    disable_cache();

if (fast_cpu())
    {
    set_wait_states(lots);
    set_mouse(speed,very_slow);
    set_mouse(action,jumpy);
    set_mouse(reaction,sometimes);
    } //if

/* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.1");    */
  /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.11");   */
  /* printf("Welcome to Windows 95");     */
  /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 3.0"); */
  /* printf("Welcome to Windows 98");     */
  /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 4.0"); */
  printf("Welcome to Windows 2000");

if (system_ok())
    crash(to_dos_prompt)
  else
    system_memory = open("a:\swp0001.swp",O_CREATE);

while(something)
    {
    sleep(5);
    get_user_input();
    sleep(5);
    act_on_user_input();
    sleep(5);
    } // while
  create_general_protection_fault();

} // main

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/* Source Code Windows 2000 */

#include "win31.h"
#include "win95.h"
#include "win98.h"
#include "workst~1.h"
#include "evenmore.h"
#include "oldstuff.h"
#include "billrulz.h"
#include "monopoly.h"
#include "backdoor.h"
#define INSTALL = HARD

char make_prog_look_big(16000000);
void main()
{
  while(!CRASHED)
  {
    display_copyright_message();
    display_bill_rules_message();
    do_nothing_loop();

    if (first_time_installation)
      {
      make_100_megabyte_swapfile();
      do_nothing_loop();
      totally_screw_up_HPFS_file_system();
      search_and_destroy_the_rest_of-OS2();
      make_futile_attempt_to_damage_Linux();
      disable_Netscape();
      disable_RealPlayer();
      disable_Lotus_Products();
      hang_system();
      } //if
    write_something(anything);
    display_copyright_message();
    do_nothing_loop();
    do_some_stuff();

    if (still_not_crashed)
    {
    display_copyright_message();
    do_nothing_loop();
    basically_run_windows_31();
    do_nothing_loop();
    } // if
  } //while

  if (detect_cache())
    disable_cache();

  if (fast_cpu())
    {
    set_wait_states(lots);
    set_mouse(speed,very_slow);
    set_mouse(action,jumpy);
    set_mouse(reaction,sometimes);
    } //if

  /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.1");    */
  /* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.11");   */
  /* printf("Welcome to Windows 95");     */
  /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 3.0"); */
  /* printf("Welcome to Windows 98");     */
  /* printf("Welcome to Windows NT 4.0"); */
  printf("Welcome to Windows 2000");

  if (system_ok())
    crash(to_dos_prompt)
  else
    system_memory = open("a:\swp0001.swp",O_CREATE);

  while(something)
    {
    sleep(5);
    get_user_input();
    sleep(5);
    act_on_user_input();
    sleep(5);
    } // while
  create_general_protection_fault();

} // main

On a completely separate subject. Does anyone remember that game egg in Excel 95 (I think?) which was a 3D Doom-esque walkabout? That was cool.

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Commodore kid

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 19:27 Edited at: 14th Jun 2006 19:28

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yeah i remember that it was more of a simple flight simulator
thanks everyone for flaming me.

right now i will tell everyone the truth i have a copy of windows 3.1 stored on an old laptop which my mate gave to me. the laptop doesnt work but i managed to slavage windows from the harddisk whereas with 95 i got that from a second hand computer shop along with an old cannon bubblejet printer.

im sorry for the spamming i used to do i hope u can all find it in your harts to forgive me

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Les Horribres

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 19:51

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Quote: "right now i will tell everyone the truth i have a copy of windows 3.1 stored on an old laptop "

Did they even HAVE laptops? I remember the hard drive in my old machine was really, well, big (weighed like 5-8 pounds, covered in rather thick steel/iron)

I guess if you booted from those new fangled 3.5 HD Floppys mabey you could have something...

Quote: "thanks everyone for flaming me."

You are welcome. Next time instead of going through the hassle of talking about piracy and "real" downloads, just type "I've don't something bad" much faster reponses.

Bongadoo, lol...

Quote: " printf("Welcome to Windows 2000");

if (system_ok())
crash(to_dos_prompt)"

It was my understanding that since NT, windows didn't run off of dos thus could not crash to dos prompt.

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Oddmind

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 20:03

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.........................

you said you downloaded 3.1 from the website anyways >,> then you showed us the box?

teehee... anywho have fun...

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Jeku

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 23:21

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Quote: "They cared about a little thing as MikeRoweSoft.com strange that they haven't taken down http://ie7.com/ yet."

I think that was more because it sounds like Microsoft. Don't know if they can do anything about ie7.com as it's not internetexplorer7.com ---

I *believe* it's legal to have microsoftsucks.com as a "parody" site, but couldn't say for sure.

Either way, that ie7.com site is great

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Lost in Thought

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Posted: 15th Jun 2006 01:03

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Quote: "Did they even HAVE laptops?"

Sadly they did, but were more the size of desktops than a laptop lol. We have a couple of old 486 laptops here. Can't use new ones as our old software requires the 16bit card slots instead of the newer 32bit.

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Wandering Swordsman

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*sighs heavily* I collect vintage software (Mostly games

) just because it\'s old doesn\'t give anyone the right to rip it off.

*Pats his 486DX2* Nothing wrong with Win3.1 useful if you\'ve built a Dos box to run old games on.

commodore kid at this point it doesn\'t matter whether you\'ve legally bought the copies of windows you say you have, you\'ve lost your credibility when you said you downloaded a copy.
(But if you have obtained them legally, then more power to you!)

Just because someone has software on the internet for free, doesn’t mean it IS free.

If your looking for good LEGAL free old games that have been released as freeware be their authors try www.classicdosgames.com, abandonedware is -sadly- just a dressed up word for old pirated software.
(True abandonedware is software that has been released into public domain via copyright lapse, etc.)

Someone wrote it, give them the respect by buying it.
(I Recently scored a copy of Bubble Bobble: Dos Version for 1$

In the original Box!!!)

Lost in Thought, I think I\'ve seen an small 486 laptop... may have been a P1 though.

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Posted: 15th Jun 2006 03:40

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only true abandonware I've seen is TurboC

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