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Geek Culture / New Halo game trailer --- Halo Wars

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Raven
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Posted: 1st Oct 2006 06:02
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Quote: "But since the 360 and Windows Vista operate on the same API... "


360 still uses a Windows 2000 variant as it's OS and DirectX9 for the majority of it's graphics. It's source is overall easier to port to Windows 2000/XP, in-fact most of the time it's very easy to compile and run on both without issue (with the XDK that is).

However the compiled code this is an extremely different matter.
The internals of the systems couldn't be futher apart in code-form if they tried really; access, endian, assembly, etc..
It's all totally different.

.NET on the 360 is still only in beta testing, so don't expect to see Halo Wars use it; otherwise converting would be a fairly simple matter.

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Evil Star
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Posted: 1st Oct 2006 16:31
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Quote: "Um, no. I have never seen a console game "hacked" onto the PC before--- aside from ancient retro consoles like the NES and SNES. Maybe in 10 years when there's a 360 emulator on the PC.
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Halo 2, ever heard of it? think it hasn't been hacked? you're wrong, I've seen quite a few sites advertising/selling it
(No I am not stupid enough to buy it, I have the Xbox version)


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Crazy Ninja
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Posted: 1st Oct 2006 16:43
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Evil Star bungie is making a Halo 2 for the PC and will require windows vista to run. There is a normal Halo version for it and i think it has one or two weapons exclusive for it.

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Cian Rice
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Crazy Ninja, he means that there are all ready hacked versions of HALO 2 for the PC, that are not from Bungie. Also, I've seen advertisements for a BLACK hack for PC with multiplayer as well ...

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Posted: 1st Oct 2006 19:37
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Anime Blood, precisly my point, thanks


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Jeku
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Posted: 1st Oct 2006 20:09
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Quote: "Halo 2, ever heard of it? think it hasn't been hacked? you're wrong, I've seen quite a few sites advertising/selling it"


Just so we're talking about the same thing here, this "hack" lets you play the XBOX game Halo 2 on your PC?


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The admiral
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Actually the xbox360 use xna with a custom operating system look on wikipedia if you dont beleieve me.

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Cian Rice
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Yes Jeku, that is what he means, just like the BLACK I mentioned above, now I don't know if it actually works, but that's what he's saying.

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Posted: 2nd Oct 2006 00:49 Edited at: 2nd Oct 2006 00:50
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Quote: "Actually the xbox360 use xna with a custom operating system look on wikipedia if you dont beleieve me."


Nobody is disputing this. And I know what the 360 uses--- I was once developing a game on it for the last company I worked for.

Quote: "now I don't know if it actually works, but that's what he's saying."


Well there's the thing. I don't believe this kind of thing would work that well-- and Black was for the Xbox, *not* the 360, so doing this so-called "hack" for Halo Wars is not in the foreseeable future.


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Raven
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2006 03:30
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Ahh Wikipedia, the home of pure truth.

Yes, 360 does use a custom OS... which is still based on Windows 2000. I believe for non-developers it explains this on the http://www.microsoft.com/xna website for the xna game studio.

Right now XNA is *only* available for Windows, for development means. It isn't even available to registered developers at this point in time, that's not to say it isn't part of the OS; they just don't feel that it's ready for development.
In-fact I think they're field testing it with XNA Game Studio in the public sector first; at which it only output to Windows for Beta 1. They expect to make it available for professional development in around 6months.

Not that any of that has anything to do with Halo 2. I've seen copies of that available for download on the PC, but don't be fooled on it being some m3g4-h4x0rs or whatever those muppets call it. The one I've been shown that's the most stable is the PC version of Halo, moded to allow dual wield weapons and the Halo 2 maps have been converted. All of the cut-scenes were missing.

I mean it isn't a major project for them to have done given they just needed to convert the media back to x86 compatible stuff; but tbh it's NOT Halo 2... it's like putting all of the Quake 2 media into Quake 1. Possible, but it's not the same game at the end of the day.

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