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Geek Culture / I Pity The Fool!

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Dazzag
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Posted: 14th Oct 2006 15:05 Edited at: 14th Oct 2006 15:06
Quote: "Do people in England actually still use "coloured"? "

Nope. As far as I know that only happens in American films.

Although I originally grew up in Italy (american air base) and England I grew up from 9 onwards in north wales, where everyone is whiter than white (but extremely racist towards the English). Once we went on a school trip to Manchester and the coach almost fell over when the entire load of kids onboard zoomed over to one side to see this black bloke walking across the road. Rather amusingly he was as stereotypical as you could possibly imagine. Including giant gettoblaster on his shoulder. Should have seen the welsh gang gawping

Actually when it comes to using inappropriate phrases towards other cultures the biggest shock to me when I went to University (after living in little town north wales). Basically I made friends with a variety of people. A welsh bloke (like me), an irish bloke, a north english bloke, and an indian bloke (who was really posh english from London). Everyone is perfectly normally apart from the indian bloke. Dunno if he thought we were amazingly racist or something because we all came from the sticks but basically he kept making these racist slurs. Honestly we would be sitting a canteen table and he would proclaim quote loudly "What is that disgusting smell?" while obviously sniffing in the direction of a black bloke on the end the table. Many things like that basically. Bit of a shocker to a small town country boy that one.

Actually that also reminds me of the time I worked in Dubai. Obviously just being straight out of north wales I really didn't have the foggiest. So I met the main man in Dubai called Roy who was from India. Nice bloke and everything, but the first thing he tells me is this really racist "Paki" joke. Erm... I basically thought it was like me doing a nasty welsh joke. I dunno the difference. Totally weird experience, although it was taken away from the fact that he had this weird thumb that ended in two thumbs (own nails and everything). Freaky...

Cheers

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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 14th Oct 2006 15:13
Quote: "But they even did a bit of that in Lost, when Hurley kept saying "the Chinese people this, the Chinese people that" and Michael finally corrected him "Dude, they're Korean." Hehehe."


I liked Hurley's bit: "So are you from the good Korea or the bad Korea?".


Quote: "What's wrong with saying black And if you tell me to call them African American I'll kick you, as they're not all of that descent."


From the legened Maddox himself...

Quote: "First of all, the label "African American" is the dumbest, most persistently used phrase in our vernacular. Every time you call someone an "African American," you're making at least two assumptions about the person:

1. That the person is an American. For example, if you saw this guy walking along on a street, you would probably think:



Note: there is no 'Arial African American' font, so I settled for the more oppressive 'Arial Black.'

...which is fine, except for one small detail: this man is British, which makes you a presumptuous cock.

2. That the person is African (because it's inconceivable that black people could come from Haiti, India, Trinidad, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Australia, or Jamaica). Nevermind that; BLACK PEOPLE ONLY COME FROM AFRICA.

Not to mention that every time you give a black person the distinction of being "African American" out of a mixed group, you're making an assumption about an entire continent; not everyone from Africa is black. I guarantee all you politically correct morons out there have never called a white person an African American. Of course you could avoid all these problems by using the same standards on blacks as you would on whites by simply assuming that all whites are from Africa just as you do for all blacks, but that might be too forward, and in a polite society like ours, people would be all too pleased to point out which of the 192 countries you didn't guess they were actually from. "


Fallout
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Posted: 14th Oct 2006 15:32
Truth is, skin colour doesn't tell you where a person is from these days. The same is true of blacks and whites. We have massive numbers of migrant workers from other parts of Europe these days in the UK. Loads of white people who aren't British in Britain and loads of black people who are British in Britain.

I don't think we've ever had the term African English or anything like that. I think the non-racist amoung us just see a black person or any other non-white race as English if they're born or brought up in the England.


Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 14th Oct 2006 16:13
Quote: "Oh for christ sake, it's the black dude. Get over it. Mentioning someones skin colour isn't racist! The pakistani dude, the jap, the chinese bloke, not the black guy, the half cast guy"


Similar to what I said, with ginger people, if someone had ginger hair, you'd identify them as the person with ginger hair, or the jewish dude, the buddhist monk, the penguin I mean nun If anyone called me a racist for calling someone black, I'd be on top of them like a tonne of bricks, because I would be highly offended, then I'll say is it cos I am white Simply because out of all the black people I know, I hate only one or two and they're chavs.

SpyDaniel
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Posted: 14th Oct 2006 17:15
There was this black guy in my cookery course that I hated, because he made fun of every one and was a "Chav".

Ive had some good friends who are black, but it seems to be the chavy ones that are the bad ones. The ones who will call you a fool for no reason.

I want to know, why do black guys use the N word with each other? but if a white guy says it, hell breaks lose.

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Posted: 14th Oct 2006 17:29
Quote: "he had this weird thumb that ended in two thumbs (own nails and everything)."


Well, you don't get that on a white guy! *

Quote: "I want to know, why do black guys use the N word with each other? but if a white guy says it, hell breaks lose."


Yeah, I have thought about this too. Historically, and culturally why is it hip to say the N*g**r word when you are black person from "the 'hood" but totally wrong when you are white?

* This is a joke. I was purposely impersonating an uncouth person, like someone out of "The Office" or "Father Ted".

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 14th Oct 2006 17:36
because saying it is rebelling and makes you sound tough, at the same time these people like trouble, when they hear a white person say it, smash, the guy wakes up in hospital. Basically gang people are like that, in reality, they're being racist. But non gang/gang-like people black or white tend to find that word unacceptable, I've kicked people for saying it.

Fallout
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Posted: 14th Oct 2006 21:58
Quote: "why do black guys use the N word with each other? but if a white guy says it, hell breaks lose"


They don't. Only the muppets from the slums, or the uneducated chavs. Normal black people don't use that word, unless maybe just having a laugh with friends. I call some of my black friends that occasionally when we're joking about pretending to be gangster. There are definitely more black people who disapprove of using that word than there are who use it.


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Posted: 15th Oct 2006 00:53
It was really funny when Mr T was cold calling people. Everybody thought it was a joke and kept hanging up on him.

"Hello this is Mr T. and i'm callin...."

"haaahaaaaahaaaaahaaaa" (click)
Peter H
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Posted: 15th Oct 2006 01:16
Quote: "Oh for christ sake, it's the black dude. Get over it. Mentioning someones skin colour isn't racist! The pakistani dude, the jap, the chinese bloke, not the black guy, the half cast guy"

haha! yeah, i know what you mean. I just use black, it's really how you use it, or the tiny almost unnotticable pause in your conversation before you use it that shows any prejudice.

reminds me of a movie my older brother made called "African American Hawk Down"

Quote: "why do black guys use the N word with each other? but if a white guy says it, hell breaks lose"

well, i don't know about currently but back when this book was written it was because of the way whites said it. and when used between blacks it was more a sign of comradiere

but hey, i'm not black (and it sounds like most/all of us aren't), so i'm not really an authority on the subject

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Posted: 15th Oct 2006 09:34
Quote: "although I did watch a few episodes of Cops, to see if what people said about it being racist true, when I did, all of the criminals were black or Asian..."


That's BS, sorry. I have watched Cops, and they arrest white people too. And even if they didn't on the show you watched, you would call it a racist show?

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Posted: 15th Oct 2006 11:40
political much?

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Posted: 15th Oct 2006 11:42
Quote: "political much?"


Um, not in any sense. Trolling much?

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Posted: 15th Oct 2006 12:34
Without trying to get into a too risky subject, a lot of high poverty areas (especially in the US) are largely populated by blacks. In these areas there is lots of crime, and therefore its largely blacks commiting it. Therefore, sometimes you watch tele programs and the only people getting busted are black people.

That's not because black people are more likely to be criminals or are less law-abiding. It's purely because, due to whatever reasons (mainly racism and less opportunities in the past), black people have become the majority in these poorer areas, and therefore most of the crime will come from black people. It would be exactly the same if you had a population of mainly whites in a poor area.

New Orleans is a good example. Really high crime rate, really poor financially, mainly black population, screwed over by the government. Helpless situation.


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Posted: 15th Oct 2006 12:54
Quote: "That's BS, sorry. I have watched Cops, and they arrest white people too. And even if they didn't on the show you watched, you would call it a racist show? "


It was what I heard, and I watched a few episodes, not proof though, probably wishful of some people thinking being a show on Fox I got this info from my sister, and her argument generally constitutes of 'Thats BS' and we were arguing that a certian percentage of our memories isn't true. (Which it isn't )

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