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Phaelax
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Posted: 7th Jan 2007 12:11
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So my existing Viewsonic 19" is about 7 years old I'd say. Still has a sharp image but has darkened somewhat. I can't really adjust the brightness through display properties without washing out all the bright colors. So I'll buy a new one.

I prefer CRT monitors because they have sharper pictures, and display the same shade of colors regardless of where you stand in relation to the monitor, unlike an LCD. I'll consider and LCD if someone knows of a superb model.

It must be able to reach a resolution of 1600x1200, or a widescreen equivalent for LCD models. A 20" LCD only reaching 1680x1050 is simply not acceptible. (I need those extra 150 lines of height)

19" preferred
either D-sub or DVI is fine

When I have to stare at a screen all day, I don't take the cheap route. In my opinion, an LCD with even 1 dead pixel is unacceptible.

I'm aiming for under $400.

Before anyone says, "go search newegg you lazy bum", I am looking on there. But without being able to see a monitor in person, it's hard to make a decision. And stores in my area don't carry many CRT's anymore, and the ones they do carry and really cheap.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2007 15:06
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I actually have an LCD monitor that is really great. It's a Samsung SyncMaster 914v. You can stand at a weird angle to it and the colors change a little, however, that's only at the most extreme of angles. The monitor also comes with software that allows you to adjust all aspects of color so that you can get it just right. Personally, I'd prefer a CRT for the sharper picture, but they're hard to find and just too big.


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Posted: 7th Jan 2007 16:24
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I like CRT's better myself. 1600x1200, WOW, thought I liked stuff small at 1280x1024

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Posted: 7th Jan 2007 17:41 Edited at: 7th Jan 2007 17:44
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Quote: "I prefer CRT monitors because they have sharper pictures, and display the same shade of colors regardless of where you stand in relation to the monitor, unlike an LCD. I'll consider and LCD if someone knows of a superb model."

That may have been true a few years ago, but LCDs are much nicer IMO than CRTs ever were.

You won't find a 19" LCD that runs 1600 x 1200. At least I never could. You'll have to go 20" for that. I'd recommened my monitor (Samsung SyncMaster 204B) as a really nice monitor. I doesn't have even one dead pixel either.

These are the ones I'm talking about. I have the silver colored one, but apparently they're both out of stock. BTW, I paid about $450 for mine a year ago.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2007 17:49
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Quote: "That may have been true a few years ago, but LCDs are much nicer IMO than CRTs ever were."

I have to agree

I have this one:
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/xseries/vx924/

The X Series 20 inchers dont go to the res you want tho


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Posted: 7th Jan 2007 20:14
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I have to agree the Samsung Syncmaster LCD screens are exceptional.
(i had one untill it got stolen...but oddly my pc,the powerhouse that it is, was still there! i am still utterly confused by that crime)

At the moment i have some random no-name japanese brand LCD. It actually fits on my desk, unlike my OLD CRT (which i still have for some reason) and it weighs about 5 times less than the CRT.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2007 22:07
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Quote: ""That may have been true a few years ago, but LCDs are much nicer IMO than CRTs ever were.""


Anyone care to elaborate on why? A crt lets you stand from any angle and there's no ghosting effect. Sure newer LCD are much better at handling this now, but haven't completely gotten rid of it.

The few Samsungs I've seen in stores over the years I've always thought had real sharp pictures.

Well samsung syncmaster seems to be what you all have, and newegg reviews give it a 5/5. How's the glare on them?

Several reviews seem to not like its viewing angle:
Quote: "the vertical viewing angle on this display is pretty lousy resulting in the top of the screen appearing darker at the top than bottom"


Best buy or Microcenter probably has some in store I could take a look at.

I'm slightly more inclined to consider the Viewsonic, since I'm more familiar with their quality already. And the one that CR posted has the quickest response time I've seen on an LCD. (3ms)
Unfortunately, only the 21" and up on the Pro series is capable of hitting the resolution I want, but with slower response time.

Quote: "It actually fits on my desk, unlike my OLD CRT "

I've got two 50lb+ 19" CRTs on my corner desk still with plenty of room to spare, so weight and bulkiness isn't an issue to me.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2007 23:55 Edited at: 7th Jan 2007 23:58
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Quote: "Anyone care to elaborate on why? A crt lets you stand from any angle and there's no ghosting effect. Sure newer LCD are much better at handling this now, but haven't completely gotten rid of it."

If sharp angle viewing is a big concern then I think you shouldnt bother with an LCD at all and just get a CRT, they all will pretty much have image/viewing degradation as your view angle changes from dead-on.

The monitor I have is my first lcd monitor. I wanted one for a long time but price and refresh rate (gaming) was always an issue. Finally about a year ago I saw this puppy advertised and I was stoked but I didn't buy right away. Miraculously my crt blew up like a week later, it was fine for like 5 years before that LOL. What luck. Anyway, viewing angle was not a concern to me, and that coupled with the refresh (3ms) and price, screen size, and the sudden need for a new monitor etc, basically made the "planets align". I used to be a fan of 1024x768 for everyday usage but this monitor recommends 1280x1024 as its "optimal" setting, so I made my desktop and all my games run in that resolution. I havent noticed any image problems in any games or apps, no artifacts, and no dead pixels, no glare to speak of, and no where near as much heat as a behemoth crt

Just thought I'd share


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Posted: 7th Jan 2007 23:55
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Quote: "Anyone care to elaborate on why?"

Main thing I've noticed after a while of using an LCD is that all the CRTs I look at now flicker more than I ever remember them doing before. They're much easier on your eyes. Oh, and there's no glare whatsoever on my monitor. While my last CRT was pretty good at not having much glare, the LCD is still a lot better.

The Samsung SyncMaster had the fastest response time I could find for a 20" at a reasonable price(5ms.) I'm also typing this message with my monitor turned at a 45 degree angle, and it's easy enough to read. You have to look at it at quite extreme angles for it to make much difference.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 00:03
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At my office I use a

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktopdisplays/lcddisplays/xseries/vx2035wm/

And they are extrememly nice=P

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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 01:51
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If your designing for web / print / video games, you will need one of each.
The colour range between the two needs to be compared if you havent calibrated both as well.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 01:56
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Hmmm that seems like overkill for a hobbyist, but I can see where you're coming from.


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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 03:35
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I often check my sites on my powerbook because of the color difference. It irritates me sometimes.

I've always heard an LCD was easier on the eyes, and its probably true when comparing cheaper monitors. But with a high-end CRT and a low dot pitch, it shouldn't be a problem. My CRT doesn't flicker at all.

I found an LCD I think I'd like. 178 degree viewing angles, 5ms response time, its a samsung 24" 1920x1200 res. Only problem is that it's nearly $900.

Newegg has even fewer CRTs than last time I checked a few months ago.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 14:00
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looks like your price range and spec requirements don't like each other


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I've got a 19" BenQ LCD - FP91G.

It's not the top-of-the-range, but I got it for just under $300AU about a year ago, and haven't had any issues with it.

One really nice thing about it is that it ended up being one of the only brands that came with an almost perfect pixel warranty. If any of them die, regardless of where it is, I can send it back! (I know most brands do that now, but at the time, it was the best deal out there)

Compared to any CRT I've ever seen, my LCD far out-performs them, and I can look at it for longer on a higher brightness without any extra fatigue.
If you're still iffy on switching over to an LCD, grab a mate who's got one, and ask if you can just browse the net all day - Do some research that you've been meaning to do, or StubleUpon some sites... That way you can compare the quality (or lack of, depending on the screen) with what you expect of a CRT

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Posted: 8th Jan 2007 16:29
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I somewhat ignored BenQ when they first came around. New company, relatively cheap stuff. But the reviews I've on their hardware are pretty good.

The only problem with borrowing an LCD from a friend is that we all use CRT, half of them being for Mac only. (and the mac-specific ones have an exceptionally crisp image)

Only LCD I really have access to is whats in my laptop, which isn't the best screen Apple could've used.

I went to Best Buy last night, and the only monitor they had meeting my specs was (of course) the only monitor they didn't have plugged in. So I couldn't really check out the image. Plus, it was around $600. Unless I find a good CRT, I'm afraid I'll have to jack my price range up a bit.

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