First thing I want to say, is that after the 18th when the pack is posted I ask the mods to remove the post like the the proceeding and this one, so when future members find this pack they are not privy to the 'behind the scenes drivel' that's taking place here. I'll also let you know when this can be locked so it's just a thread to get some free gear.....I'll need no thanks later on for this.
OK, now to my lil DBP buddies,
First and foremost, I want to say thank-you to Hubdule for his comment. He obviously has class that lacks in other people. And when all is said and done, he bowed out of this with dignity. I can respect that, even if I can't respect some ill proportioned models for 12$. Him posting words, not taking into account our last meeting, and only the thread at hand, shows him a reasonable person.
@Indi,
Quote: "The female model looks like Victoria dressed up with drag and drop stuff from Poser,"
Wrong. Is Vic the only model your familiar with, so that's what you spewed off with? It's not Vic, though it is a poser model. (So that's a point off for you guys playing the home game.)
Quote: " hardly a professional modeling tool for a serious 3d person"
Wrong.
http://www.e-frontier.com/article/archive/371/
If it's good enough for a Jet Li movie or many other projects, I hardly consider those guys armatures. (Hmm two un researched and false statements in the first paragraph...I hope this gets better don't you guys?)
Quote: "I cannot see anything special regarding the models presented within the context of the title.
When you compare it other works it feels a little blocky and rushed.
http://www.mr-cad.com/popup_image.php?pID=1075?=."
So then you link to a page with high poly chair models? Your really a mod for a game engine? Was TGC like in need of staff at the time or something?
Quote: "Perhaps its a knee jerk reaction to another users work on this forum where the concept was bred out of contempt,"
Um? How much thought goes into a table? Are we talking about the same items here?
Quote: " and clearly rushed without thought."
Like some of the above post in my thread perhaps?
Quote: "It is a good attempt, I guess, but hardly anything remotely impressive."
Yeah the stuff that selling for $12.00 is much more impressive.
Can anyone say "Fisher Price", "Play School" thickness maybe? What the heck is that dado that runs around the thickness of the table for? Has anyone ever actually seen a table that looks like this in these proportions?
Only pic I could find of something similar since I'm not sure what that piece of equipment is in the BG is, was this-
(sorry mods only image I could find looking up "gym class" in Google. I searched 44 pages, this being on page 10, for that rack in the background for my demonstration)
How big are the players hands supposed to be to wrap around those telephone poles...Yeah those are much more planed out then mine. I bow to the uberness of which I have no claim.
@Errant AI,
Your the only "pro" that's even taking part in these convos. I would love to know any commercial titles Indi has worked on. In saying this-
Quote: "When it comes to simple set pieces, super low poly is definitely the way to go with FPSC."
, if you have to explain to a mod for a gaming engine why a link to high poly versions of chairs is a different world then a low poly model for a game, then it's probably not worth your time, though I do thank you for your words, and views, as I'm sure all members around here do. Good, bad, or indifferent, I always appreciate your post.
@Terry
All I can do is smile brother.
Thank-you
Now back to our regularly scheduled program.....
@Indi
Quote: "I saw in a previous post Loc gloating that his actions in previous attempts have run others off the
boards. TGC frowns on losing customers in this regard, its not acceptable and wont be tolerated in any shape or form. It may be ok from where you come but its not condoned here."
You just really don't do any research when you post do you? The time I "ran off" a person was more a term. The last person I did this to (Inovator), still regularly post, and now values my opinion. You may want to check a few of his threads. Saying I ran him off, as well as another term I use-"Hurting their wallet", was a reference to me making packs of sub quality useless by duplicating the items in the packs and releasing them for free.
Quote: "As artists and programmers you should have more self respect for each other and yourselves. There is no call for it at all, its just ego bashing at a digital bully level. Not welcome here I'm afraid."
And even if he's a friend you should have been telling him that that stuff was not worth 12$. I have no problem with models or textures that aren't pro quality. I love Butter and Fred's styles. The difference is though, that they aren't taking advantage of the community. And even if you won't do it...that's where I put my foot down.
Quote: "Everyone is at a different level of artistic talent, and from my experiences I don't see anything impressive. Is that a crime to suggest that? Its a simple opinion from someone who has seen a lot of good and bad, my critical eye might be more harsher but when I see something impressive I say so."
Um, I've looked at your site man. I'm not impressed either. It's graphically infantile for a site that's supposed to showcase to others work in an attempt to garner work as a graphic designer.
Wants up with those octagons? Over do the blur tool a lil? You actually posted that as an example?
A photoshop tut? What's up with that blue background?
When doing a design, I suggest thinking about your lay out and not trying to combine page eleven tutorials with page twelve just because they're sequential.
Quote: "Let this be a warning to you all, negative insults what I read from LOC in previous posts towards much older members are not welcome here. They are not welcome period towards anyone."
Like I said before...I'm not changing. I post appropriately for the time. If it's a member, new or old, that's taking advantage of the community, they will get no different from me.
Quote: "Racial insults like go back to your community forum etc. are especially not warranted."
If that came across as racial, that is one thing I'll apologize for.
Hubdule, For that I'm sorry. The post was only a reference to the only post I really remember from you in our community, asking if it was OK to do a German version of the TGC site to better spread it's word. The sentence was said with the intention of- "You may allow that crap on your site, but were not standing for it here". No more, or less, but I can see how that could loose something in translation between German/Aussie inflection and American.
Mods I would ask you again, when the installer is posted can we remove this and other post, or is there a problem because some of the post are made by a mod?
