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Michael S
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American actor, Reality TV star and former model Anna Nicole Smith was pronounced dead Thursday after being taken to a Florida hospital, a law enforcement source told CNN. Wow this realy shocked me. Right now its all over the news. Here is the article if you want to read more about the situation. http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/08/anna.nicole.collapses/index.html

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You really like to report on death don't you?

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To Cian Rice: not at all buddy, its just all over the news. Ive only posted about her, a former US President, and a football legend. Its not that I like to I just though you might like to know. But if you want to know something positive go here.http://www.happynews.com/

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I can't for the life of me figure out why the whole world's hearts skipped a beat over this girl. She married a rich guy to get his money, and people rooted for her. There... that's her big achievement. It bothers me quite a lot that when a Nobel prize winner dies, no one seems to care, but when a bimbo that got rich for marrying some orca-wealthy guy dies, it's the center of everyone's attention . Oh, to have been born on Mars.


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I agree with you matt although I do feel bad for her daughter.

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Posted: 8th Feb 2007 23:15 Edited at: 8th Feb 2007 23:15
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Of course, I mean you have to feel sorry for her family, you can't resist that, but I shouldn't have to feel sorry for her family because I shouldn't have been forced to know about this by every media source in the world. It's everywhere. I put on CNN while working out, there she is. I check my yahoo e-mail, and she's in my inbox. I come onto TGC hoping to escape the maniacal press coverage, and Eureka, there she is! (hehe sorry for the clever pun on your name ). I dunno, with all of the horrible things happening in the world, with genocide and starvation in the Sudan, with the AIDS epidemic in Africa, with Van Der Sar's nose being broken, Anna Nicole Smith isn't last on my list of things to worry about, she simply isn't on that list at all. But darn me if I can't escape it


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Posted: 8th Feb 2007 23:39 Edited at: 8th Feb 2007 23:43
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I honestly cannot say that I am saddened by this news. She was ridiculous. She took up so much of the media's attention because she married an old rich guy and her son was a drug addict and overdosed while she had her new baby (which she shouldn't have had anyways at 39). Every interview I saw her in she looked drugged out and out of it. I'm not saying I'm glad it happened, I'm just not too deeply saddened by the news.

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i agree with everythinyou just said apart from
Quote: "(which she shouldn't have had anyways at 39)"
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Quote: "There... that's her big achievement."

Umm, she was a pretty famous model ya know. (prior to her enormous size on her tv show)

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I've heard of her, but I can't say I know a single thing she's famous for. I love being out of the loop where pop culture is concerned!

Seriously, Matt Rock is right. None of the real people in this world ever get any recognition. It's only the actors and the sports stars. I don't care how much they have donated or how many fund raisers they have set up. It's never any skin off their back. But when my dad has to get up early, go to work and slave away for 10 hours in the cold to care for 6 kids, a wife, and a mother in law... When he dies and many others just like him. The ones who have really done something in this world and helped others from the goodness of their heart (not just giving away their excess or starting a fund raiser where other people contribute to). They don't get any recognition. I'm pretty sick and tired of hearing about an actor dieing, or a sports star getting injured. So what! It happens to everyone sooner or later.

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Quote: "Umm, she was a pretty famous model ya know."

Yeah, but what's that? "oh, I have to walk in front of cameras all day, my job is so stressful!" Ugh! I only wish I could get paid to change my clothes, walk around, and change my clothes again . Easiest job in the world, apart from being paid to sleep or something, lol. Anyway, back on subject, she wasn't a really famous model like Cindy Crawford or someone like that, she was just a model... I for one had never heard of her before the geezer she was married to had kicked the bucket. I forgot she had a TV show... was that the one where she stuffed her face with turkeys and tried to look sexy while doing it?


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Agreed. Mother Teresa died near the same time as Princess Diana, and who do you think made most of the magazine covers?

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She won't be missed.

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Quote: "Umm, she was a pretty famous model ya know."

I know...

Quote: "I can't for the life of me figure out why the whole world's hearts skipped a beat over this girl. She married a rich guy to get his money, and people rooted for her. There... that's her big achievement. It bothers me quite a lot that when a Nobel prize winner dies, no one seems to care, but when a bimbo that got rich for marrying some orca-wealthy guy dies, it's the center of everyone's attention . Oh, to have been born on Mars."


The main reason that it is all over the news is because she has been in the news a lot lately.

First, she was not only a Playboy model, she was one of the biggest draws for Playboy of all time.

As if a Playboy model marrying an 80 year old guy isn't enough... the guy is REDICULOUSLY rich. He dies and she has one of the ugliest, moral-questioning legal battles in history with the guys family. In the end she walks away with half of his money.

Then she blimps up. Now, any former model getting fat is going to make the news. In most cases, it would ruin the person. Instead, she pretends that she is such an air-head that didn't "realise" that she was fat and puts the act on reality TV. It was so over the top that it was funny (and a very successful show).

Now, we have a former playboy model that got fat who married an 80 year old guy and won his fortune in an ugly legal battle. She then signs a deal with a "diet-drug" company: Trim-Spa and loses all her weight. Wow! What a success!

That would be enough for most lifetimes, but she wasn't done.

Instead she gets pregnant (which was news itself). Right after she delivers the baby her 20 year old son dies. Oh the drama. If that isn't enough, there is a HUGE legal battle over WHO is the father. She claims that her attorney (and seem to be puppet-master) that just happens to have the name Howard Stern is the father. The other guy wants a DNA test but she refuses. Oh no.... here comes another long, ugly, moral-questioning legal battle over paternal rights.

Before that can happen though, the she is named in a class action lawsuit with the diet suppliment "Trim-Spa" and is about to get involved in ANOTHER ugly legal battle.

Then the National Enquirer suggests that Howard Stern MURDERED her 20 year old son by giving him the drugs that he OD'd on.

As all of this is coming to a head, she DIES!

Did she commit suicide? Was she murdered? Think of the possibilities. Her former 80 year old husband's family finally getting revenge? How about the claimed father of the child? How about Howard Stern attempting to take all of her money? How about some estranged Trim-spa user seeking revenge?

The whole story of her life couldn't even be written into a soap opera because they would say it is too over the top.

That is why it is in the news. It's to rediculous not to be.

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I blame the media for publicizing something like this. Still, its better then hearing about that bloody astronaut every minute!

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That's a bit of big news for someone I've never heard of, well shame you died buddy, but you're not the only one

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How can so many people, and here I mean "guys", never have heard of Anna Nicole Smith? Yours were impure thoughts-free youths, lol

Anyway, I was quite shocked with the news. Granted, a lot more important people go out without so much as a sign of recognition, while strictly speaking she never really did anything for anyone.

But the fact of matter is, much like Wolf mentioned, she had been quite famous in the past and even more infamous in recent years. This all adds to media attention, pure and simple.

And even if you feel she was a money-grabbing tart, you still have to feel bad for a baby that loses her 39-year-old mother (which is not an old age, Gil).

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Well as she died at 39, impure thoughts wouldn't happen on such a person at my age.

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I didn't expect it, but it didn't surprise me either. She's depressed, aging, and drugged up. It was just a matter of time.

I can't be sad either, it's not like she was a good person. She was a model with lots of personal and ethical problems, the world is neither better or worse for her passing. I feel sorry for her child, hopefully she turns out okay.


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Anna Nichole Smith R.I.P

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@Kentaree: That's terrible - but I love it!

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What's really sad is the baby will grow up only knowing about her mother from videos like this:

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What an absolute moose.

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Quote: "Mother Teresa died near the same time as Princess Diana"
Yeah, it was pretty bad that there was next to no coverage in comparison. True story though is that I sort of predicted her death the day before. Honestly, I was down the pub and I said to my mates "Wow, Princess Diana dying is pretty big. I suppose maybe Mother Teresa dying could make such a splash". She then died the next day. I was wrong about the splash though. Yes, I have the touch of death. While I remember massive coincidences I also had a Dilbert desktop calendar which on 911 actually had a plane falling out of the sky (pointy haired boss was using his laptop because his secretary told him he would have to fly the plane and it interfered with the controls). Pretty spooky that one (in a massive coincidence kinda way). I have it somewhere. Will have to scan it in...

As for Anna, I always feel sad for some reason when someone famous dies, no matter who they are. Then again for some reason I feel sad when I realise young actors don't "exist" anymore. People from Diff'rent Strokes look seriously old now or are dead (fit bird). But be honest, Anna did have smashing t**s. Oh yeah.

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Quote: "People from Diff'rent Strokes look seriously old now"

What about Gary Coleman? He still looks 8 years old! You can't glue a beard and mustache on Coleman, we know you're still a child!

PS.- I almost accidentally wrote "Gary Oldman." What a tragedy that would've been


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No seriously im the secret 54th lover so its really my baby and my cash.

poor lady, even if she was on the seedy side of life and struck oil with her body drilling its still a shame to watch the circus afterwards.

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Quote: "I can't be sad either, it's not like she was a good person."


Define a "good" person. You?

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Quote: "Define a "good" person. You? "


Mother Teresa. Billy Grahmn. Gandhi. There are plenty of good people in the world that I've been sad to see go and that I will be sad to see go. I can't by any stretch of the imagination put Smith with those people. Nor can I put her with people that I think are extremely important, that have contributed significantly to our world.

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Quote: "Billy Grahmn"


I don't think Billy Graham's quite dead yet.

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Quote: "I don't think Billy Graham's quite dead yet."

That can be fixed.

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I agree with Cash. If you listen to everything Anna Nicole Smith ever did or said, you probably wouldn't find one thing worth remembering. Her family should remember her, but I just don't understand why people who have never met her should give a hoot.

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I don't give a hoot, and this makes me want to pollute. Okay, that was corny. But seriously, I saw some lady on the news crying... yes, crying. She didn't know Smith, never met her, but she was crying. It makes me want to destroy my television when I see things like that.


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Quote: "Mother Teresa. Billy Grahmn. Gandhi."


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Things like this make me kind of sick. It's similar to the Jessica Lynch. Did you know, that around the same time that Jessica Lynch was taken hostage (one of the MANY "hostages", yet she got coverage because she was female), a few squads of troops defeated over 400 attacking Iraqi soldiers. Even with grievous losses, they didn't even get the headlines when Lynch was in the hospital.

The moral: There are greater things going in the world. Why does this two-bit actress, model, and playboy bunny get thrown across the news? Just sickening to see the decadence of society these days...Sure, it's a tragedy, but imo, it's hardly news worthy. However, I guess I don't make up the majority of newshounds in this country...

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Quote: "Mother Teresa. Billy Grahmn. Gandhi. There are plenty of good people in the world that I've been sad to see go and that I will be sad to see go. I can't by any stretch of the imagination put Smith with those people. Nor can I put her with people that I think are extremely important, that have contributed significantly to our world.

What exactly is your point? If you are trying to say something then just say it."


My point is that you cannot define a good person. If I give you a random person out of some place in the world and ask you to evaluate his/her goodness, how would you do it?...

"hmmmm...let's see...three good deeds...four bad...this is a bad person..."



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Sure you can. Although, it is much easier to define an average or bad person. Smith was neither good nor important. That is pretty hard to argue.

The truth is, people die every day. Some good people and lots of average ones. People don't shed a tear over people they don't know unless they are important. People that are far more important than Smith die every day and don't get a moment of media coverage. Soldiers. Loving parents. Doctors. Social activists.

It seems silly to me for people to get bent out of shape over Smith when she is definitely not good or important. She's tabloid garbage and is not worthy of the tears of people that don't know her. I feel for her child, that's all that I can do.


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Seriously, its almost like how my gf talks to me about the latest trash from hollywood, expecting me to remember every relationship, every new star, every show they stared in, and their entire medical history. I cant be bothered with it, these people are mainly pointless attention whores.

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You cannot judge someone just on how many times they have been good or bad. That's quite rediculous.

So, are you a "good" person? And what do you define as being "good" and not "good"?

What irks me is when people judge goodness like weight on a scale.

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People are defined by their actions... so you want us to define them by something else Uncle Sam?

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I do not want you to define them at all, that is left for another.......

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So by your ideals, a man who slaughtered hundreds, ate their flesh, should be viewed the same as a man who cures all disease, and donates all profits to charity...?

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Do not start and argument in my thread please. I dont want to see this get out of control so please quit while you are ahead.


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Quote: "You cannot judge someone just on how many times they have been good or bad. That's quite rediculous."

When someone cannot be quantitatively judged as good or bad, then they're average. Almost everyone is average. Some few are good, some others are in fact bad.

A person's actions are all that they can be judged by. If we can't judge someone by their actions then we have no way to judge them.

How can you compare Mother Teresa to Osama Bin Laden, if not by their actions? I think that you are less interested in making a point then you are in attacking my statement.

In order to make your point, you need to tell us how to properly judge people.

Quote: "So, are you a "good" person?"

I'm an average person, most certainly. I come with good and bad. So what?


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Quote: "How can you compare Mother Teresa to Osama Bin Laden, if not by their actions? I think that you are less interested in making a point then you are in attacking my statement."


From my point a view there is no comparison, however, from the point of view of some people Osama may be seen as a liberator, hero, etc.. This perception of good vs bad is just that, your (and many others I am sure) perception.

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Posted: 18th Feb 2007 13:18
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Quote: "This perception of good vs bad is just that, your (and many others I am sure) perception."

That's a rather interesting point, and true too.

Quote: "Just sickening to see the decadence of society these days."

I agree.

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Posted: 18th Feb 2007 14:06
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It is most certainly a perception. However, from a logical standpoint it becomes quite clear. This is putting aside all religious and political views.

Mother Teresa helped lots of people. Osama was instrumental in the deaths of lots of people. Whatever his reasons, he did much more damage than good. He is a political activist that uses death as his tool of communication. I know of political activists that got their point across with violence.

I'm not trying to convince anyone that Osama is bad, I'm sure you all agree. I'm just trying to look at it from a purely logical viewpoint so that we can judge people appropriately.


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