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Geek Culture / Craziest, Most Insane Boss Battle!

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Jeku
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Posted: 9th Feb 2007 22:40
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Are Japanese gamers *really* into this stuff? This is freaking crazy. Anyone know of any crazier or equally crazy boss battles?

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Posted: 9th Feb 2007 23:03
What the hell, is that even possible to beat for a normal human being, the Japanese must be really skilled gamers or just true geeks to handle that, I'd know I'd lose pretty quickly, unless I cheated of course, wouldn't be the first time

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Posted: 9th Feb 2007 23:04
That is just ridiculous - I got sweaty palms just for watching. Whoever designs a boss battle with that amount of junk on the screen should be shot.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2007 23:13
Well, that was crazy... I see it's a PS2 game, but was it also designed for arcades? Because I can see that as a serious money getter. If you can get to the boss, no ones going to want to stop playing until they run out of quarters(or whatever the japanese kids use), so might as well make it virtually impossible. Now the real kicker would be to have a second boss after that one

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Posted: 9th Feb 2007 23:20
I used to play arcade games a lot in my youth and there were quite a lot of vertical shooters with insane bosses, but I can't remember much about them.

I do remember some games I got really annoyed with when you get really far and die and you get a countdown from 10 to insert some coins, usually 10p's in those days, and you find ALL the 10p's in your pocket would not go in properly and you insert the same coin time after time like some insane idiot, the timer getting lower and lower, you sweating like a pig and asking anyone around you for a coin, no-one has one, timer runs out and you can't continue. You leave the game feeling utterly gutted.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2007 23:35
Quote: "What the hell, is that even possible to beat for a normal human being, the Japanese must be really skilled gamers or just true geeks to handle that, I'd know I'd lose pretty quickly, unless I cheated of course, wouldn't be the first time "


I didnt see any skill there just someone holding down a fire button and continuing till the thing died.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2007 23:50
That's one bad ass boss

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Posted: 9th Feb 2007 23:50
That game makes me remember of X2 (playstation)..

this is not a boss, but still insane:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMPdjt-4ew8


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Posted: 9th Feb 2007 23:58
Popn' isn't that hard 5Louiz. That's just fantasy impromptu, I know at least five people that can beat that. Now that boss fight, that's another matter entirely. That's a hard boss, but not because of killer AI, because of a bullet creation loop that runs on a little too long.


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Quote: "Popn' isn't that hard 5Louiz. That's just fantasy impromptu, I know at least five people that can beat that. Now that boss fight, that's another matter entirely. That's a hard boss, but not because of killer AI, because of a bullet creation loop that runs on a little too long."


Yeah but aren't you like a master of ITG? Or are those YouTube videos doctored?

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Posted: 10th Feb 2007 01:55
Well, I admit that my rhythm game background does connect me with a large community of rhythm game enthusiasts, but still, compared to that boss fight, popn' isn't that hard.


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i will not post my actual comment on this because it may contain extreme foul language used in utter surprise and get me banned.

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Posted: 10th Feb 2007 02:47
i had a siezure watching that video

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Posted: 10th Feb 2007 02:53
That doesn't even look fun, I don't understand why you'd play a game like that, much less make it

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Posted: 10th Feb 2007 03:48
Those programmers are sadistic!

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Posted: 10th Feb 2007 07:18
Games like that suck. Just money hogs, nothing more. The gamer in the first video had a bit of skill, they could insert themselves between the projectiles and even zig zag between them.

Sometimes it was just impossible not to get killed. He must have died 30 times in that video and inserted money 10 times. And, the end explosion wasn't that spectacular.


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Posted: 10th Feb 2007 11:32 Edited at: 10th Feb 2007 11:32
That last one was just stupid!
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Posted: 10th Feb 2007 15:14
This guess is just a shot in the dark, but I think the bosses in those clips are more a display of art than extreme difficulty- they did look quite fancy, albeit seizure inducing.

When you think about it, a boss that throws a million projectiles at you isn't that difficult to beat, providing the player is provided with a substantial number of lives to begin with (though this isn't really apparent in these games where the player pays for it).


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Posted: 10th Feb 2007 18:46
I could do it. I just don't want to
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I don't know, it seems a fun enough game to me, and this seems like they're all set on the highest difficulty. I think its rather thrilling to be able to play a game that you can beat easily, then have difficulty levels which go up to be tailored even to the most hardcore of gamers as well, it gives the game much more lastability.


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Quote: "Popn' isn't that hard 5Louiz. "

So that is what it is called? I wonder how many people think he is actually PLAYING the songs... and take a look at the screen too, most of the time he is blue, but alot of times he gets in to the yellow and red range.

Then again, I might be misunderstanding what is being presented... either way, PLAYING the songs is much harder then smashing your hands on 8 buttons.

Oh, how I hate arcade games, would MUCH rather play a pc or console game DESIGNED for you to beat it.

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Posted: 11th Feb 2007 07:17
He is actually playing the songs. If you listen you can hear how the sounds made from his hands hitting the buttons creates a comprehensive pattern. Mostly 16th note runs, but it's obviously not mashing. He is actually playing.


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Posted: 11th Feb 2007 08:15
He's NOT playing the songs, rather playing the rhythm as in any other rhythm based game as far as I know. He isn't playing the songs unless he has a keyboard or piano or such to play them on


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Wow that Ultra sounded definately sound japanese alright and that was more crazier than a man throwing chainsaws like that!!!

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Posted: 12th Feb 2007 20:56
Mannn... that was crazy
this one is alitte stupid but if you go into one of the missle you die!
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Quote: "He's NOT playing the songs, rather playing the rhythm as in any other rhythm based game as far as I know. He isn't playing the songs unless he has a keyboard or piano or such to play them on "


OK, he's actually playing the chart to that song Mr. Look at me I'm a super literal genius .


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Quote: "OK, he's actually playing the chart to that song Mr. Look at me I'm a super literal genius ."

Actually, he's not playing the chart, rather reading the chart in order to play the rhythm to the piece. It's not a song as it involves no vocals.


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Posted: 13th Feb 2007 01:29
Actually the terminology is playing the chart (or the stepchart in the case of dance games) so HAH


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Posted: 13th Feb 2007 02:07
But thats like saying people play sheet music. They don't play sheet music, they read off of the sheet music and play the music itself. So either the chart is music or the terminology is wrong


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No the terminology is a shortcut to saying that the person is reading the chart thereby knowing which buttons to press. That's the way it works, get over it, people don't like overly literal people.


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Posted: 13th Feb 2007 04:09
Quote: "It's not a song as it involves no vocals"


So music without lyrics aren't songs? That's gotta be wildly inaccurate.

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So music without lyrics aren't songs? That's gotta be wildly inaccurate."

It's completely true. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/song

Music without lyrics are commonly referred to as "pieces", although that term encompasses songs as well, along with poetry and art.

But enough with the technicalities


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Quote: "Music without lyrics are commonly referred to as "pieces""

Or tunes.

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Saikoro, I say this with the most kindness possible and with all due respect, go kill yourself . Thank you.

Disclaimer : please don't actually kill yourself as that would make very large mess.


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Hey, what did I do I don't really care what you call different styles of music or what the dots on a video game are, it's all fun and games

And yes, the mess is something I would rather not look forward to


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Damn that's a lot of bullets, but really did anyone else notice how a lot of bullets just glide over the players ship?

It's like the collision detection is only registering the middle of the ship (or a square bit in the middle, cheapo's!), making it much easier than it looks. If that's how the Japanese make videogames difficult then they can keep them, hell I can't even complete 1 level of Nanostray, and that's a lot easier. I like these games, but really I'm not good enough at them to get very far, I just appreciate the fast action for the 27 seconds it takes me to loose all my lives .

Perhaps that would be a cool code challenge, you have 50 frames per second, see how many bullets you can fire at the player at that speed - with full collision. See if you can make an impossibly hard bullet dodge fest. Winner gets 1 quarter to play that game on it's hardest level.

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Quote: "it's all fun and games "


As were my comments.


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Posted: 13th Feb 2007 19:08
Herregud!

That´s a lot of stuff.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2007 14:47
that hardware that runs that game must have some nice sprite handling capabilites

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