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Geek Culture / 20 year old can't buy an M-rated game? Post thoughts.

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Jess T
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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 09:06
Haha, Jeff, that's great!

Before I got my Dreads, I used to get ID'd all the time, but now I only get ID'd when everyone's getting ID'd. Like, going to the nightclub, etc.

It's no big deal, but if I were to be refused on the basis that my ID wasn't 'valid', then I'd blow up. How can an ID not be valid anyway? As long as it is a real ID, then even if it's out of date, from another state, anything, it's still proof of your age.
Oh well.

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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 11:50
quite possible it was the 'bazooka' and mini gun that you were carrying that may have made the women judge your ability to interact with society after playing M-rated games LOL
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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 14:59 Edited at: 6th Aug 2007 08:59
Quote: "[MOD EDIT] But anyhow I hate GTA."


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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 15:12 Edited at: 5th Aug 2007 15:13
Jimmy, try to keep it T-rated, mate

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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 15:54
I hate the concept of ID's. And I'm going to continue hating them every year until I'm 18.

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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 16:52
Well I don't have to have one. So I don't need to worry, it is you guys!

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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 19:30
@Jeff Miller

I've heard that term about Boston before. A lot of things in Boston are banned. Sometimes for the better. Somethings go over the line, but the mayor has been under serious pressure lately.

I think in your case it is funny how people won't use common sense. What did they think, you colored all your hair grey to try and look older?

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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 19:37
Well, try the Netherlands, from the age of 14 everybody is required to carry ID at any time and to be able to randomly identify himself to police. Nightclubs, bars, disco's and café need to buy licenses to allow certain kind of people. Drinking is 16+, cars 18+, liquor 18+. You're mature at 21. ID checks are forced by law and violation can result in heavy fines for the club/employee. Not carrying ID at a check by police results in, I think, €60 fine...

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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 20:18
I'm 15 and I've walked into Gamestop and bought M-rated games. No problem at all. And I look my age, too.

That doesn't seem right, especially if my 15-year-old friend could walk into Bestbuy and buy American Pie 1 & 2 unrated.

Friend: Hey, I wanna get this
Clerk: Are you sure that's appro-- ...hmm... Well, it looks like it's not rated, so I guess it's fine.
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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 20:23
I don't think I'd like the Netherlands. My sister visited Holland though. She said the people there were very nice, and it seemed almost anything was legal there.

I don't like American laws, the system over here is completely unbalanced, especially when each state can make their own set of laws, besides federal laws. A lot of Americans see my state to be in the top 5 for most strict laws. But nobody really notices that our state is probably one of the safest and in-depth with laws.

I remember when there was a massive blackout a few years back. 30 million+ people lost power. New York City lost power, and caused a complete chain reaction. Massachusetts and Maine were the only states in the Northeast that didn't lose power. Why? Governor made individual eco-safe power supplies, and outlawed power provision from chain states.

Of course laws like those might make things easier, but sometimes it goes over the line as you can probably tell from the past few years.

You really can't blame us after all the pressure we're under. (Neon bomber, which made us react to the "ATHF Bombers", in which we were awaiting to here from the top list of high risk cities.)

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Posted: 5th Aug 2007 23:37 Edited at: 8th Aug 2007 16:31
[quote][MOD EDIT]

The closest I've gotten to being ID'd for a game was when I was 17 and the girl at the register asked if I was 17. IDs are good though... that's the main reason I got a drivers licence before going to college.

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I got ID'd in Woolworths for a '15' rated film. The bizarre thing is I've been buying DVD's from there for a months and on a semi-regular basis (due to their 'Entertainment Price Crash') so was most shocked when I was asked....I'm 18 in September....

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Posted: 6th Aug 2007 00:53
Quote: "ATHF Bombers"


I laughed all day about that, I never knew there was a possible connection that had you all freaking out. But, the news reports were simply hilarious and I couldn't help myself.

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Quote: "I don't think I'd like the Netherlands. My sister visited Holland though. She said the people there were very nice, and it seemed almost anything was legal there."


Yeah, nowadays for tourists only. Used to be better, everything has taxes (up to 52%), ID's, I don't know what all. I just turned 18 and had to fill out a pile of forms on which I had to google 90% of the terms. It screwed up and basically I'm without study for a year. Sucks.

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Posted: 6th Aug 2007 02:42
Quote: "That doesn't seem right, especially if my 15-year-old friend could walk into Bestbuy and buy American Pie 1 & 2 unrated."


Right, because a teenager watching American Pie would be the end of their happy and clean lives as we know it.

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Posted: 6th Aug 2007 02:44 Edited at: 6th Aug 2007 09:00
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It wasn't funny before they showed the lightboards. Just a few days earlier a guy walked into a hotel with bombs hidden inside glow-in-the-dark lightsticks. Luckily, SWAT took him down while hazmat got his cases.

@tha_rami

That sucks. It's like that in the US sometimes. But for some reason I think people in Europe have it easier sometimes. After hearing some of that though, I'm not so sure.

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Well at least they got him, I didn't mean to poke fun at the situation, but before having prior knowleged of that previous incident, it was quite comedic to see. However, I apologize for tryng to poke fun at the situation.

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Posted: 6th Aug 2007 06:24 Edited at: 6th Aug 2007 09:00
Dude what the h*** is your avatar?
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Posted: 6th Aug 2007 07:39 Edited at: 6th Aug 2007 07:40
I was asked for ID when I went to buy DBpro.


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Posted: 6th Aug 2007 08:57
@Jordan - Stop talking about your age on here. Thanks.

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Quote: "The funny thing is, the "Adults Only" section is uncovered, completely exposed, and right next to the childrens movies"
One time in Germany, when visiting a friend, we went to rent out a movie. Was a nice big video store but the english titles were upstairs. Obviously it was a smaller section, but it turns out that it took up about a tenth of the upper section, with the rest devoted to hardcore porn. What was amusing to us at the time was it looked a little like a Santa's grotta with an archway to go through. But they advertised the section on our side of the archway with full whack hardcore images for all to see. Germany is fairly laid back with that sort of thing. Would be amusing to see a family with kids go up to the english section. "Mummy, what is that woman doing with that whip, and what does she have in her mouth?...."

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Quote: ""Mummy, what is that woman doing with that whip, and what does she have in her mouth?...." "


Whipping someone, and a tongue. I don't see what the fuss is all about.


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Posted: 6th Aug 2007 10:56 Edited at: 6th Aug 2007 10:57
Well C++, Im sorry to hear that you had to deal with that idiot. Why didnt you just go back a different day when she wasnt working though?

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Quote: "Jimmy, try to keep it T-rated, mate"


The post served its purpose

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That was one R-Tard of a woman. C++ Nerd you should of whammed your driving license right in her face and said"Is that enough proof".
That'll teach her. + And in Britain alot of the time clerks never have these little stupid acts they would ask for ID or If you have one a driving license. But I always say never trust shop's clerks.

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Not a real answer but maybe she's racist..or something

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Posted: 7th Aug 2007 00:29
All three of us are white.

I just filed a complaint, I'll update my first post.

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Copy of update:

UPDATE

I went through the trouble of filing a complaint. I talked with a human about it, and he said there were other complaints coming in from that SAME store. According to him, there have been similar complaints, but nothing has been done about the two employees. Apparently, they have not been able to contact the store manager about this.

At least I'm not alone on this one.

Just remember to take your ID with you - wait, oh yeah, you should also bring a friend to verify who you are, and maybe bring an FBI or Interpol agent, and possibly, bring your birth certificate along with all your ID's you've had previously and you should also bring a lie detector machine with you, just in case.

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Ha!

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soccer mum [1] : angry gamer [0]

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I expect an epic come from behind victory!

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Posted: 7th Aug 2007 10:27
I remember when I was 15 the "I'm so funny" guy at Blockbuster wouldn't let me hire a PG movie. He said I had to be over 13... He always did think he was funny...

When I was 20 the woman in Tescos wouldn't sell me PC Zone as it was rated 15 for content on the cd... Despite the fact that I was wearing all my motorcycle gear and carrying the helmet which meant I had to be at least 16...

Nowadays everyone thinks I'm older than I actually am...

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Well if their policy is to only sell to those they're sure are within age then okay...but the point I found daft was when she says that you're clearly old enough, if she was sceptic then fine, that's understandable. Though if it's the stores policy to only let you purchase it with ID, then you can see why she did it, I mean there are pubs around I've seen saying 'If you look under 21 you'll be asked for ID' even though the legal drinking age is 18. Perhaps it's a similar thing.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2007 13:10
I for one am looking forward to getting our ID cards. I have NO proof of ID at all, and that just sucks.

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P.S. I'm in my forties but still get asked if I'm over 21
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Posted: 7th Aug 2007 18:04
Quote: "the woman in Tescos wouldn't sell me PC Zone as it was rated 15 for content on the cd... "
When I was in London, the women in Tesco sold me PC Zone with coverDVD rated 18 (I was 14). She only looked on DVD cover (where was (18) rating) and said "...Black & White 2. OK."

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Posted: 7th Aug 2007 19:54
Quote: "I for one am looking forward to getting our ID cards. I have NO proof of ID at all, and that just sucks.

Robin

P.S. I'm in my forties but still get asked if I'm over 21"


Just get a passport Personally, though the ID cards are a good idea, I think our taxes could be spent elsewhere. Though it is inevitable that we get them, so look forward to getting your proof of ID and buy as much alcohol and horror movies as you want. I'm sure it'll be funny watching House of 1000 corpses after several pints of alcohol, it's amazing what you find funny when you're drunk or tired.

As for getting asked, you must have some sort of anti-ageing secret, what is it? Whatever it is I think you could sell it and earn gazillions. But at the age of 40.

Quote: "the woman in Tescos wouldn't sell me PC Zone as it was rated 15 for content on the cd.."


When we went into Cineworld to watch Hot Fuzz my sister got asked if she was over 15...she's 24. But really they do need to make sure that the person is definitely the right age, hence they aim for higher ages than are allowed to pass as most young people should have ID available (Proof of age card, though apparently bars tend not to like them) though if Proof of age card are not accepted I got my passport and connexions student card, but not everybody is student or a passport holder, so then that's a problem.

Also, when I wanted to buy Doom 3 I needed ID and I didn't have it (just as well, I was underaged anyway) but all I needed to do, as my sister was nearby, was to say to her, 'can you pay for me' and then they can do it as she was old enough, so the system is quite awkward there, as they're not allowed to sell to an underaged person, but not refuse someone who is buying for an underaged person, hence when I was working I couldn't sell a James Bond movie to a kid under 12, but was able to sell it to his mother.

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Yes. This is why 8 year olds end up with San Andreas. The system is, like all goverment-run systems, pathetic, weak and downright flawed.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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It is a bad system. There will always be loopholes in the law. Though this particular one seems a little unintelligent.
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No. Make me.

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Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Usually if it's for violence only, they'll let anyone buy it. But once drugs, sex, or language is mentioned, ID is required. I remember when Driv3r came out, I bought it at Gamestop. The kid before me in line was getting it too. He bought it without ID. When I was walking out, another kid (who was after me in line) got ID'd. Luckily he told some guy outside the store to go and buy it for him.

Isn't that what all the kids do when they get ID'd? Maybe someone should make a business out of it?

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Posted: 8th Aug 2007 12:49
Hi Seppuku Arts,

I think it's because I am 5 foot 4 ! I look older if I haven't shaved though. I have no use for a passport. Where I live it's 87%+ foreigners so who needs to go abroad???

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Posted: 8th Aug 2007 13:50
Quote: "Hi Seppuku Arts,

I think it's because I am 5 foot 4 ! I look older if I haven't shaved though. I have no use for a passport. Where I live it's 87%+ foreigners so who needs to go abroad???"


87%+ foreigners, it's becoming a similar scene where I live too, not that I have a problem with them as long as they behave, which a number of them don't. As for the size, somehow I'm thinking of an old Chinese /Japanese bloke, somewhat Mr Miyagi like, in that case just Karate chop the guy behind the counter and run off with your game or movie...though if you were Mr Miyagi you'd look 70 and not under 18, so that throws my theory straight out of the window.


Personally, I think the system is just a little cookoo at the moment, along with most other legal systems, so why can't we just be more laid back like the Scandinavians and Germans, German TV isn't even censored, they swear and show boobs during daytime TV, though content is moderated and not over the top. But hey we live in a time of double standards and political correctness.

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Edit:I totally agree with Powersoft we don't want bans and ill debates.
On-topic C++ Nerd they should of fired them.

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Lets be careful guys. We don't want any bans or ill-feeling debates coming out of this thread from mass stereotyping or prejudices.

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Quote: "No. Make me."

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Edit: Wow, exact same time posting as PowerSoft.

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Quote: "Where I live 87% is the same amount they're everywhere"
Kinda doubt that otherwise you would be the minority. Clue is in the name... Ah. Unless you interpret that sentence differently... Should use commas or full stops...

Move to where I come from though (Anglesey). You spot anyone who isn't white and it's probably because they have been to the local town (is a total hole) and just need a shower. I moved away from there as soon as I could. Oh, and I forgot, they aren't actually your typical racists there, just towards the English. So perhaps not then...

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Um, why did a mod edit my post? From what I can see all that happened was they put the mod edit thing and left a quote open...

Edit, on the last page.

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Quote: "as they're not allowed to sell to an underaged person, but not refuse someone who is buying for an underaged person"


Silly rule that. With alcohol and tobacco, the shop still isn't allowed to sell the product if they have a suspicion it's being purchased for someone under age. They should exercise the same restrictions on computer games, but within reason. They can't stop someone who's 40 buying a game because they might have an underage kid at home, but in the situation where a kid has tried to buy a game, been refused, and then asked someone else to buy it, they should still be refused sale if the shopkeep is aware of the ruse.


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I'm working at a gas station right now to get some extra money rolling in, and our company policy is if they look under the age of '32', yes, I'm serious, 32, then we have to ID. No ID, no alcohol or tobacco. When we do ID, we have to enter their birth date on the register for it to be accepted. If they look old enough, and I over-ride entering the birthday, our security system actually takes a snap shot of the person and records the date and time for review by our security, lol! So if i sell it to someone who looks underage, I can get fired.

So if u come into my station sometime and I card you, don't get mad, I'm just trying to keep my job, lol.

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