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Geek Culture / why do people think a apocolypse will happen in 2012??????

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bitJericho
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Posted: 2nd Aug 2008 21:21
Surely too strict of a punishment.


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2008 21:43 Edited at: 2nd Aug 2008 21:46
Dark Coder! Sorry for late reply. Here is the ancient symbols of aircraft http://veling.nl/anne/templars/ancientaircraft_nf.html

Also this http://www.conspiracyresearch.org/wiki/index.php/Ancient_Mayan_aircraft

Also while i agree on those making Crop Circles but who the hell would go all that stuff trough to make the Crop Circle? Also the Crop Circles seems to be just too amazing big and complex to do with that technique i dont mean every crop circle tho. There is only 3 or 2 crop circles wich isnt IMO so easy to make.

Also it seems funny that crop circles are found all over the world.

Also check out these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_lines



On side note anyone ever tought all this stuff would make really nice story for game or movie :/

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2008 22:03
I'm sure it has been made into something...the last Indiana Jones movie was incorporating stuff...
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Quote: "Also it seems funny that crop circles are found all over the world."


That's probably because people are all over the world.

Quote: "Dark Coder! Sorry for late reply. Here is the ancient symbols of aircraft http://veling.nl/anne/templars/ancientaircraft_nf.html"


Give me a source where I can read personally these translated texts, not from a knights templar fansite, and I might believe it.


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no... when I said AKA I meant for the "by the time this happens" NOT the colonization whatnot.

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please get back on topic

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2008 22:17 Edited at: 2nd Aug 2008 22:22
Yes but who would do those crop circles It may sound stupid but i guess i just dont get people who go all that hard stuff to make complex pattern.

And some other links to ancient aircrafts. Type in google Ancient Aircraft and you find more

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_7.htm
http://www.ufodigest.com/egyptplanes.html

But meh the ancient aircrafts sound funny even to me. But if these are real they are just propaply desings..



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Posted: 2nd Aug 2008 22:27
So, you believe that people are not interested in making beautiful patters in fields, and instead it must be alien UFOs that make beautiful patterns in fields...

Right.

Cuz we all know humans don't do anything artsy just for the heck of it.


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2008 22:30
btw, those airplanes look remarkably like birds >.<


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2008 22:32
Well maybe but i would go and ask premission from the land owners first. Still it sounds silly and if they were humans they would propaply tell everyone about it and so on. But yeah it sounds kind of funny to think about aliens or ufos make them But they could try to contact us.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2008 22:42 Edited at: 2nd Aug 2008 22:49
Quote: "Well maybe but i would go and ask premission from the land owners first. Still it sounds silly and if they were humans they would propaply tell everyone about it and so on,"


Some if not most of the time, the crop circles are done by the land owners themselfes. A few have admittet to it. And it would make sense if the rest kept shut about it since they become "celebrity" over night.

Silly humans and their need for attention.

Edit: I don't know what to say about the "planes". Pretty cool, but I'll say they are coincidences.

Think about it.
There have been countless different cultures and tribes troughout history, making lots of art in varying shapes and forms. Odds are, at some point in time, someone would make something that resembles anything modern.

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Quote: "Well maybe but i would go and ask premission from the land owners first."


Quote: "Oh hey, farmer Joe, would you mind if I cause massive amounts of damage to your crops? I'm asking you publicly so that my work won't get in the paper."


Just like I'm sure these guys asked the wall owner if they could paint there...




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Quote: "http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle"


Here you go... Just in case you want to make your own...


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2008 22:51
Ah very true
Think i forgot that people are diffrent from others

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Quote: "Yep, answers.com says:


Quote: "Thus, an ice age is occurring at the present day, as a part of the Pleistocene glaciation, which began about 2 million years ago."

It also says:


Quote: "Within an ice age there may be interglacial periods of milder climate."

So I guess we're in one of those periods of milder climate."

Ooh, I didn't know this was technically an ice age. I knew that ice at both poles might have a sort of stabilising effect, though. Thanks guys
Also, my ice age doomsday warning thing was more a "this is ALSO looming!" comment, rather than "this will happen in 2012" because I doubt anyone can pinpoint which year an ice age will happen.

As for the Mayan planes and crop circles - I am intrigued by the little plane pictures, but then they are necessarily vague and it's possible they depict something else entirely. The story about the scaled-up model that flew is pretty cool, though.

As for crop circles...
Quote: "Also while i agree on those making Crop Circles but who the hell would go all that stuff trough to make the Crop Circle? "

While I agree that it seems rather odd, people do weird things. Though I'm not sure about the radiation.

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Well, it doesn't matter if anything happens in 2012, because the death clock says I'm gonna be alive until 2067.

90% of statistics are completely inaccurate.
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Posted: 2nd Aug 2008 23:08
Quote: "While I agree that it seems rather odd, people do weird things. Though I'm not sure about the radiation."


Yes, the radiation thing is pretty wierd. But who's to say the field wasn't naturally (or already) radioactive. Did they check the whole field, neighboring fields?


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Quote: "Well, it doesn't matter if anything happens in 2012, because the death clock says I'm gonna be alive until 2067.
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It says I'm going to be alive until 2086


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I'm sure it's been lost by now, but the atom smasher/black hole Apocalypse it bogus. Discovery channel even tried to spin it off in that light, and you could almost see the scientist laughing as he explained how impossible it was, seeing as the black holes are what, smaller than atoms themselves, and close almost instantaneously? I stopped reading about the project a few years ago, and then recently saw it again on discovery. Thought I should point it out...

@ puppy 101,

And that Death Clock's kinda off. 'Says I live 'till 2068, Which is to say I live to be about 79 years old. Given medical advances in that time frame, and how fit I am, I imagine myself to be living longer than my grandparents have.

I even changed around the dials a bunch over and over, and the clock wouldn't add even 20 years ever. I did learn though that if I was a sadist, I'd only live 'till 2029.

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On the documentary that I saw, the real crop circles had radiation which could be measured when you stand in them but as soon as you leave it none is detected. Also the crops in the real ones were not damaged. In the man made ones there were pops and cracks and marks from being stepped on with a plank and so forth but the others showed no such signs.

Also, the reason why the hamster (not rat) invasion will occur in 2012 is because a massive freighter carrying steroids will explode and they will be carried all over the world. The hamsters know it will take a while to collect it all together for mass overdose so they picked a date. They thought 2012 just sounded cool and also no-one would expect it then because they'd all be worrying about the 20 other ways that world will end. Thw reason why they picked 12 december 2012 exactly is because they wanted to be ironic: aztecs made guineapig kebabs. Coincidence? I think not! Hamsters are smart!

and as far as "it's probably real easy to make a perfect circle out of crops" is concerned that's total rubish. You probably can't even draw a perfect circle if you had the most advanced technology for drawing circles available. Circle is where every point lies at the same distance from a centre point. It's not possible to be that accurate. You can try though =D

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I read the first post, read several other posts, then skipped to this page.

I find that it'd be much better to "prepare" for the end of the world now. Some things may happen, some things may not.

Oh well, anyways Chuck Norris will save us all when the world does end.... hopefully...


I did happen to notice someone insulted the mayans. To that person (and all others who insult the mayans and other civilizations): you're enjoying the internet that you are because they made mathematical advancements which allowed computers to exist (by extension), so if I were you I'd be a little bit more grateful that those old civilizations decided to be curious.

If the sun does happen to create solar storms able to destroy the Earth then we're all screwed rather or not you survive. You see, the radiation would get to your food and plants and what not, and then you'd have to eat the radiation and be exposed to it in some way or another. I do wonder though, would that really apply if we all lived underground with enough refried beans to last for 100 years? That'd be a lot of beans! <Better start buying now>

If we were able to live underground (with no air? We'd need to create our own "artificial" air) we'd seriously need to be doing a lot of planning, lol.

As for the "atom smasher" I remember hearing about that. But I thought they were already doing that? And underground in Chicago, USA? Well, if it's so dangerous why doesn't anyone protest it? Couldn't that be considered a weapon of mass destruction?
NOTE: I remember that "atom smasher" as something that creates anti-matter from normal matter. I also remember that if anti-matter touches matter it could destroy everything on Earth (Including most of the Earth it-self). At least that's what I heard.

If nothing does happen in 2012 then that'd be VERY awsome. I don't know if anything will happen or not, I haven't done any research into it myself, only hear various things about it occaisonally.

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Quote: "Given medical advances in that time frame,"


Wait about viral mutations? Stuff like MRSA barely existed a few years back.....

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If the world is going to end, then it's going to end...in fact it will end, but by some prophecy? Many have been made, many have been wrong, they sound like they make sense, but they never happened. The Aztec prediction, most likely wrong - but if you look hard enough, you'll find the thing your looking for, because you'll single out a piece of evidence to tell you what you want to hear.

But what will be our end...Some pagan religions think there will be a celestial battle and the world floods then freezes over, the Bible thinks it will be fire and sinners will suffer.


Saying that...you probably could choose which one to believe and see those as ancient prophecies and that the signs are there...

Perhaps somebody 2000 years ago had a vision of the end...but they could not understand it or our techology, fire, bombs, explosions, nuclear warfare...could this really be our end? Think, there must be some reason why somebody say something that could well be a great battle and what about the Pagans? Celestial battles? Could that be again, our fire power? Could the freezing and flooding be the results of man's stay here, global warming and the coming of an Ice Age??

Now think for moment...if you nodded your head through that last paragraph, you're a fool, reread my first couple of lines - if you're feeling a connection between the Aztecs, Pagans, Christians, Global Warming, The Evil of Man into the end of all life, then you just fell into my trap.

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Friday, August 20, 2095

well i went to death clock and i live to a hundred and 112

yay the world wont end because if it will it would say i die on 2012

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Um.... yeah. The real crop circles.

You know, crop circles are one of the most well documented hoaxes ever. And it is possible to bend the crops without damaging them, as well as draw near perfect circles (of course a perfect circle couldn't be made out of crops, but you can get pretty close, same way you make a near perfect circle on a piece of paper). Unless aliens saw the hoax and thought is was such a good laugh they aught to try it themselves there ARE no real crop circles.

Of course, show me hard evidence that points to aliens as the MOST likely possibility, and I'll believe it. Until then, I'll let it go with the million dollar prize (or so) for anyone who can display any form of ESP under controlled circumstances, still not claimed after 30 years or some similar number.

It's that whole Occam's Razor thing or whatever. Aliens in almost any case are one of the least likely explanations for any near Earth phenomena, and it's just common sense that any closer to home explanation is far more likely.

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2008 07:44 Edited at: 3rd Aug 2008 08:11
Quote: "Cuz we all know humans don't do anything artsy just for the heck of it."


Good point, which also makes me think about what sort of things WE as the people of the world are doing now to stand out 1000 years from now?

Come on, I'm sure these people had the same urge to make something bigger than themselves just as we all do every day. It's not that surprising really.

For us it's technology and who can build the taller building, but those guys had a lot of time on their hands. I'm sure crop circles where something they thought of randomly and dared each other to try and make the best one or something. I'm sure if they were alive they'd laugh about our doomsday predictions.

1000 years from now, historians will be looking back on texts from now and interpreting them as doomsday clocks for their own times. I just hope they don't look at the stock market graphs for reassurance

Or maybe they won't be looking back questioning and guessing what we meant when we tried to make our mark on the world you know? Maybe our present times will be documented enough and preserved enough to actually mean... what it means! I think that crap from way back then is nothing but the result of guesswork. I think all it is is humans trying to make something larger than themselves, for something bigger than they are, for whatever reason. I think it's all just being guessed at, misinterpreted and blown out of proportion over and over. The best we can do is make sure the future generations don't look back on us and ask... "what the heck where they THINKING?" Can I get any amens?

Everybody loves a good conspiracy, no?

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I think this is BS...just some lunatics that want publicity. If it happens it happens.

Im not gonna get into relgion so im not gonna offer much about why this is BS.

Quote: "Wait about viral mutations? Stuff like MRSA barely existed a few years back....."


my dad got MRSA...thankfully he survied

you know things happen...new thing come up and people think its the end of the world.


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By 2012,

I've graduated college, then an apprentice, studying again, a decent relationship... and all what everyone wanted to be...

I've read about 2012 B.S., and there's a movie coming up with this theme. I'll be eager how the immortal superpower will respond to this situation... Either it's Barack Obama or John McCain, CHUCK NORRIS, Rick Astley OR ME!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Quote: "Cuz we all know humans don't do anything artsy just for the heck of it."


Then you're obviously not understanding some points about art - art is an expressive form and some artists like 'pulling' stunts - some say that 'it is not the artist that is important, but the art' and if these crop circles are made by artists, then obviously the mystery behind it all is a part of what makes it artistic...saying that some circles might be copycats.

On the other hand it still could be a hoax.

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Fairplay. But still Crop circles could be nutty post-modernists trying to be cool.

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Er... Sepukku... If that quote you commented on was the one from earlier on in the thread then Jerico2day was being sarcastic when he said that... If you clicked it it linked to "something artsy", a picture of an ornate dish (I thinnk)

lol @ AndrewT's October 24th 2008 prediction. That made me laugh so much.

@Bizar Guy
no, freaky as they may be, I don't actualy believe crop circles were made by aliens, it was the documentary that referred to them as the "real" ones. Good of you to say 'near' perfect circle though, although just 'circle' would have done fine... Just not, as dark coder said;
Quote: "Making a perfect circle in a crop field isn't hard"

when it's not actually possible
btw, how do you explain the radiation?

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Quote: "Friday, August 20, 2095

well i went to death clock and i live to a hundred and 112"

so you're 25? Those arguments were meant as a joke then, right?

Quote: "By 2012,

I've graduated college, then an apprentice, studying again, a decent relationship... and all what everyone wanted to be..."

so by then you'll be about 29...


I'd like to know what numbers you put into the death clock, from what I could tell, it CAN'T give you a number like 112. If you did it, I'm pretty impressed.

Edit: in fact, I just made every highest advantage I could on the Death clock, and found you'd have to be 13 or 14 at the very best for it to give you 2095... chances becoming much more common around 10 or 11. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..........

@sinisterstuf, well, I honestly just don't know enough about crop circles to know what the radiation is. I've never heard of it before in fact. I'm sure I could find an explanation, but for now as it stands, I'd say the chances of it being alien made is the least likely of any scenario.

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Busted!

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lol, didn't you just know it!

@Bizar Guy
yeah, the radiation was weird. They had a meter and when they moved it out of the circle it went flat... There were also all these "psychic" people sitting inside the circles because they could "feel a spiritual presence"...

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I never believe psychics...load of rubbish...especially []Most Haunted[/i]......

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Its just some lunatics that want money and losers like obama will support their stupid research...i should get chuck norris to go drop kick all the lunatics


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I saw the documentary again. The crop circles had their own magnetic fields. Totally messed up compasses and stuff. And all the crops had these pops on them, like popped bubbles that they decided could only have been caused by heat. They also discussed making them with a plank and this hoax with the video of one been made out of thin air. It looked kinda creepy but cool.

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2012...pure speculation.

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/19/no-doomsday-in-2012/

I think this article knows what it's talking about and provides thoughtful counterarguments to popular claims (you can also refer to the related articles box). And what's this stuff about things being "overdue"? The earth isn't working on some clockwork mechanics, things that seem like patterns are just extremely unlikely events occurring at random times, tricking people into thinking they are smarter than they actually are. We can barely predict earthquakes and volcanic activity, but here comes superman and tells us when we can kiss our *** goodbye.
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Quote: "I did happen to notice someone insulted the mayans. To that person (and all others who insult the mayans and other civilizations): you're enjoying the internet that you are because they made mathematical advancements which allowed computers to exist (by extension), so if I were you I'd be a little bit more grateful that those old civilizations decided to be curious."

Weren't we well into the renaissance when we stumbled across the Central American civilisations? Which meant we could make accurate maps and models, use gunpowder and we had (presumably) reliable compasses. Not that I'm knocking the Mayans, but by the time we discovered their world I'm sure we had progressed past their technological standpoint.

Unless you were referring to all ancient cultures, in which case I agree, of course.

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Quote: "well i went to death clock and i live to a hundred and 112"


lol, when you said "death clock" I thought you meant this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dethklok

took me a second to realize you were talking about some kind of life expectancy calculator.
...That IS what you were talking a bout, right?

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I kind of believe that humans used to live on mars, then I kinda think that they evacuated from mars and came to earth because of the meteor, on earth we start from scratch and come to what we are now. The meteor wiped out most of mars terrain and its a rugged waist land, hence the giant hole where it hit, and the bulge on the other side, but the mars rover that is on there right now found ice! Awesome! if there is water there is oxygen! Lol sorry for sounding crazy...

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We've known about all the ice on Mars for years, it was in that movie "Total Recall" with Ahnold.

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You know the Earth was actually hit by a comet the size of Mars billions of years ago?

The crater is the Pacific Ocean, the debris was pulled together by it's own gravity to create the Moon, and the Earth was tilted a few degrees off it's axis...

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Posted: 4th Aug 2008 16:41
Yeah, that's so awesome. How cool would it be if that happened now? Or in december 2012?!

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Aertic
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Posted: 4th Aug 2008 16:45
*shakes magic 8 ball*

yep, were screwed.

Sid Sinister
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Posted: 4th Aug 2008 17:59
Quote: "*shakes magic 8 ball*

yep, were
we screwed.
"


LMAO! That was great

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Posted: 4th Aug 2008 18:21
Who are you quoting?

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