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Jeku
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Posted: 2nd Sep 2008 23:45 Edited at: 2nd Sep 2008 23:47
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Quote: "Yes, that really large country where Germany used to be. Back to geography class you go. "


It depends how you're looking at it. Yes, his finger is not squarely on Denmark, but if you follow the direction of his finger, you can see Denmark sticking out. It's up to interpretation--- yes, I know my geography

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:EU_location_DEN.png

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Oh I see that the issue is there's no border line


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Seppuku Arts
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Is it me, or is Iceland having a conversation with Russia in that picture? Quite remarkable.

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The Heavy
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Ok from what I've been able to find out all of the themes are DLL files that are possibly collections of PNGs generated using Adobe Image ready (It's mentioned inside the DLL), only the DOM inspector icons can be customize abut I think the pop ups(such as the passwords pop up) can be customized as well. The language file is also a DLL but when opened can be customized as it's just plain text with some header and footer stuff. That concludes this report, now I'm off to see if I can decompile any of the DLLs.

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Posted: 2nd Sep 2008 23:52
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Quote: "Interesting, does anyone know if you can develop addons for chrome, I can't find anything about it."

I haven't seen anything.

Chrome is still a beta, so I'm sure we'll find plenty wrong with it.

for those who haven't, read the comic! It's got lots of useful information that explains what makes Chrome cool. Like why multiple processes are used. It's not just so when one crashes it doesn't take the rest with. But it has to do with multi-threading and memory management. They even admit in the comic that it uses more memory at first, but they explained that the multiple processes help prevent memory fragmentation. Anyway, read it!


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Posted: 2nd Sep 2008 23:54
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Look at Ireland! It's like a little flying demon with an evil grin.

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Posted: 2nd Sep 2008 23:56
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http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2008/09/02/google-unveils-chrome-source-code-and-linux-port
there's information there for developers.


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Posted: 2nd Sep 2008 23:58 Edited at: 2nd Sep 2008 23:59
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Quote: "Yes, that really large country where Germany used to be"


They put the board between Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland but still can't be bothered to put in about 4 major European countries.

Edit: Looks like chrome doesn't have java support wtf.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2008 00:54
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Oh boy... If I wanna just look at the code it'll take 1.6Gb of space. If I want to build it I'll need at least 10.

I guess I'll have to save my modding for something else, lol.

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Using Chrome for a test-round for now, am extremely impressed till now - fast, smooth, light and inbuilt-spell checker. Might miss some of the versatility of Firefox plugins though, but seeing this stuff is opensource I think it won't take long before we see some good stuff here too.


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Posted: 3rd Sep 2008 01:46
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So now web developers have yet another browser they have to consider testing their sites in? That was a bit negative.


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Quote: "So now web developers have yet another browser they have to consider testing their sites in? That was a bit negative."


So, basically, what you're saying is that there should be one web-browser and nobody else should make any more, simply because it would be bad for web-developers?

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I'm trying it out right now, so far I don't see anything special about it, I don't like the looks very much either. It could get pretty good people make some good addons.

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http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/09/02/1637216.shtml - Mozilla's opinion on Chrome.

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I'm not touching Chrome until it's been hacked to not phone home, and hacked to not show ads.

This is a browser released by a company who's business model is propagating ads.

Ads are the devil. I've been ad-free on my browsers for 5 years thanks to a filter proxy. I don't even watch TV, I get episodes commercial-free on the net.

The worst part of being ad-free is going to someone else's house and cringing when they don't mute commercials.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2008 03:25
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Quote: "'m not touching Chrome until it's been hacked to not phone home, and hacked to not show ads.

This is a browser released by a... (read post above to see more)
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Don't be evil.


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Posted: 3rd Sep 2008 03:27 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2008 03:38
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@SirFire
I've never heard of a free, legal, tv episode provider on the net...

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2008 03:27
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Quote: "Mozilla's opinion on Chrome"


They seem pretty understanding about it.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2008 03:35
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Quote: "I'm not touching Chrome until it's been hacked to not phone home, and hacked to not show ads."


Show ads? What are you even talking about? I didn't get anything but what I would on IE or Firefox (if it weren't for Ad-block plus ).

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2008 03:35 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2008 03:41
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Yes I thought so. Though, they are a company. Lashing out on google would be pretty silly. Actually what interested me was they said Microsoft let them test Firefox on Vista so they could get it working on Vista. I know (or think I know) why though.

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Google to launch Chrome web browser on Tuesday - That's today (I'm betting someone already posted this).

EDIT 2
Download Chrome Here.

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Hmm... Much worse than I thought it would be. Just about everything that is not made by Microsoft usually rocks for everyone.

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i just got it...its pretty nice


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Aaron Miller
Quote: "I've never heard of a free, legal, tv episode provider on the net..."


And if the powers-that-be continue to have it their way, you never will.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2008 07:07 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2008 07:13
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shame on the tv show producers for wanting to make money for the shows they spent a lot of money producing.


Quote: "So now web developers have yet another browser they have to consider testing their sites in? That was a bit negative."

really, not so much. Considering it uses WebKit, so it's going to be rather similar to Safari. The difference will be with JavaScript, but even then, I doubt it'll be that big of a difference.

And with that, I just ran the Acid3 test on each of the major browsers. Opera got the highest, 83, and the next highest was Chrome, 79. Of course IE got hosed and didn't even display a legible number


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Posted: 3rd Sep 2008 07:40 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2008 07:49
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Quote: "The multi-threading/-processes is a sweet idea"


It's about time! I've been wondering for years why nobody has done this yet. It will likely use more memory, but I have enough anyway and think it's a good trade-off.

Right now, I still mainly use IE6 just from habit but Opera 9 is my favorite browser.

Quote: "The lag between opening a new tab and actually seeing it is quite unbearable"


At least when I click on the IE icon the browser actually opens immediately, unlike FF. Before you call me an MS fanboy, I hate IE7 with a passion. But it's been my experience that IE6 has always been faster and more memory efficient than FF. I have yet to install FF3, so things may have changed.


Quote: "I'm all Safari. However, I may try this."

I think I read Chrome uses Apple's Webkit for the HTML rendering.


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First opinion of Chrome is mixed. It seems very fast at loading pages, like the TGC off-topic board was loaded instantly and that never happens! However, the browser is incredibly ugly and I don't like the lack of a status bar (yea i know it pops up on its own) and where's my menu bar?

Oddly, the browser seems slow when resizing pages or simply moving the window around the desktop.

I'm actually quite surprised that nobody has really heard of this browser until yesterday, Google really kept things quiet about it. (oooo, I just noticed I can resize text boxes, go webkit!)

Almost finished reading that comic and I'm liking the way they've handled security.


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Quote: " However, the browser is incredibly ugly and I don't like the lack of a status bar (yea i know it pops up on its own) and where's my menu bar?"


I disagree. This is the best looking browser I've seen so far. Love the color.

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Quote: "Ads are the devil"


So you'd rather pay to search for internet content?

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I'd rather it was funded by people who made their millions via the IT business, like Bill Gates.

Or Donation supported like Wikipedia.

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Quote: "'d rather it was funded by people who made their millions via the IT business, like Bill Gates."


The thing about Google is that they can make all the money they want, and yet still give away quality programs for free that most people (including Microsoft) struggle to make. I think a couple of harmless ads here and there are nothing worth worrying about; in-fact, if you have a business and you want to make a little money, AdSense is your best friend.



Off-topic:

Quote: "-= Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals =-"


Man I love that song Back to the subject at hand though.

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Quote: "So, basically, what you're saying is that there should be one web-browser and nobody else should make any more, simply because it would be bad for web-developers?"


Now that's just you putting words in my mouth. I was merely pointing out what a lot of web developers would be thinking upon the release of yet another browser.


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So long as the browser is compliant with the standards, nobody has to worry. If it's not compliant, it will die a natural death.

The reason IE is still breathing is that Microsoft have a unique distribution channel - Windows.

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Well this is of some interest to us all...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/03/google_chrome_eula_sucks/

hmm. "Do no evil"?

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There it is, I was waiting for that.

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Wow, google is more evil than I thought.

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Down with Google!

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Quote: "I'm actually quite surprised that nobody has really heard of this browser until yesterday, Google really kept things quiet about it. (oooo, I just noticed I can resize text boxes, go webkit!)"


Probably because they just released it.

Quote: "However, the browser is incredibly ugly"


Probably because you're on XP, not Vista. It looks stunning on Vista. (View attachment)

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WildCat
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I do pay, I dont get my internet for free. lol

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Jeku
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He was referring to paying the search company to use their engine. Nothing is free.


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Quote: "He was referring to paying the search company to use their engine. Nothing is free."


I know it was a joke.

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Yes, Jeku, it was a joke. Get your humor straight.

I like Chrome, I really do. It has replaced Firefox for now, unless I find something extremely painful about it. The EULA doesn't worry me yet, they'll rephrase it - and if not, back to Firefox we go.


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Lol, the spell-checker doesn't recognise "Google"


[edit]

Wait, about the EULA: How does Google know if you upload something through Chrome? Or, alternatively, wtf are "the Services"?

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well, I've got to admit, after using Chrome for just 2 hours Im mighty impressed.. Its fast and smooth. I havent tried loading zillions of tabs yet, thats my next todo. The license copyright issue is a bit worrying.. though I think that its meant to be so Google can use uploaded images in their search engine without any legal threats. Obviously the tools for misuse are (and have been) in their hands for a long time, but if I'm really worried about my copyright, Ill just post via FF :X
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if anyone has read about the EULA they'll know that it's copy and pasted from the EULAs of other Google software.

So basically, if you're worried about that, make sure you rid yourself of anything else Google makes.

The only problem I've had with Chrome is type "about:%" in your address bar... warning, it'll crash. Who knows why.
That and no plugins, I'll most likely revert back to Firefox just so I can have my plugins and wait for Chrome to implement that same feature.


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I might as well make a web browser using the WebKit. Seems nice and good programming practice.

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Quote: "Probably because they just released it."


But you think someone might have heard something during its development.

While it does look better on Vista than XP(which I'm on), I still don't care for the vista look.

I found a few bad websites to test the sandboxing, and it worked well.

Oh, and apparently there's no Java plugin yet, as my friend just informed me he was unable to use his admin consoles at work through Chrome.


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Quote: "Quote: "-= Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals =-"

Man I love that song Back to the subject at hand though."



mee too!!
amazing song!!




I like google chrome...but its still in beta...I may love it once its fully complete!


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I've been trying Chrome for the past 3 hours, and so far I'm fairly impressed. Very smooth and fast responding interface, although some web pages seemed to load slower than FF (but then again my internet sucks, so it's hard to say). Visually it looks pretty clean, even though I don't have Windows Aero activated (got too used to it ).

The EULA was a little bit concerning, but my best guess is that it'd be used for their search engine. Until it's cleaned up I'll upload anything I'd be concerned with using FF but my guess is that it won't be a problem in the end.

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Chrome SOUNDS very promising. I haven't used it enough to say whether I think it's the next best thing or not yet. I still cling to my FireFox. I want to buy the plushies!!

*cough*

Did I say that out loud?

Anyhow, Chrome looks quite pretty (in Vista), the feaetures they boast sound awesome, don't notice it running any slower than FireFox, but like others have said (as well as the comic) memory usage is slightly higher in the short term, but that's not a problem for my beastly system... Might suck for mainstream internet browsers (people, not the programs ).

I like the new start page with your most visited sites, that's very cool.

They kept it open source... very good I can't wait to see some plugins and stuff. This may very well have a chance at competing with FireFox!

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I'm sure everyone's heard about the EULA for chrome taking everyone's intellectual property rights. I've just seen that google has backed down from that section of the EULA:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2329414,00.asp

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Chrome is cool. I like that if one tab crashes it doesn't take down the entire browser, that needs to be put into Firefox like 5 years ago.

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