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Geek Culture / An Interesting View on Piracy

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General Reed
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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 20:14
I don't see how there can be automatic detection. Just think about it, There would have to be a database with a copy of every single peice of media ever created. Then when you upload the video, the server would have to search through every peice of media ever, Check if any part of the video you uploaded matches any scene from those billions of peices of media, Then if it found something, Check what copyright restrictions are placed on it, Then finally delete it. No, Even if every single computer on the planet were networked, and all cpu's running at 100%, It would not be possible. The check with all that power, Even on one video could take centuries. Until we have rediculously powerful computers, this simply will not be possible.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 20:32
They do have filters:

http://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+piracy

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Robin
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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 20:59
Youtube without music videos and tv show clips would be pretty dull...that's what most people use it for no? lol

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General Reed
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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 22:04
Quote: "Youtube without music videos and tv show clips would be pretty dull...that's what most people use it for no? lol"

Lol you obviously dont watch jamesnentendonerd, Or charlieissocoollike.

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Alucard94
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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 22:16
Or other people.


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BatVink
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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 22:21
Yes, it's very possible, and it works. I'm not saying where the information came from as it may not be public knowledge, but it came straight from a company that is doing just this with YouTube.

I don't know the technicalities, but it works on a system where it matches a thumbprint. So I would imagine that like virus scanners, it doesn't care what the data produces, it's just looking for similar patterns at a very low data level.

Jeku
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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 22:33
Well according to the articles I've read on YouTube's copyright detection, it's nowhere near an automatic solution that will work for everything. It's very easy to bring up clips of movies and entire TV shows on YouTube. I think the announcement is more for detecting audio and to put shareholders at ease.


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Posted: 11th Jan 2009 23:04
You could be right. I just searched on the company in question, and there's still a fair amount of their stuff around.

Having said that, they must create this "thumbprint" for every bit of footage they want to catch - could be a lengthy process.

Kevin Picone
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Posted: 12th Jan 2009 04:13
If it's possible to detect songs or even decipher lyrics / words / dialog from an audio stream (no idea, never looked into it), then they wouldn't have to just use the video images to detect a possible infringement, they could just screen the audio track.

Mr Tank
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Posted: 12th Jan 2009 05:47
They could just "google" the comments people make to the video, even if the actual video isn't described/tagged correctly. Finding Rick Rolls would be easy - just search for "lol rickrolled again" etc.

Drew Cameron
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Posted: 13th Jan 2009 03:35
I've had videos taken off in the past 2 weeks for using copyrighted music, and the same has happened in a lot of my favourited videos.

Looks like YouTube is clamping down!

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