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Robert F
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Posted: 10th Apr 2009 02:23 Edited at: 10th Apr 2009 02:27
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Alright, im totally lost on this. I have heard lots of people say that Infinity + 1 = Infinity? I don't see how that makes any sense though...

If

Infinity + 1 = Infinity

Then

X + 1 = X?

If

X + 1 = X

Then Substitute 2 for x

2 + 1 = 2?

That makes no sense at all...


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Infinity is.. infinite? it is the highest number possible, in that it never ends, and can never be reached. Infinity is limitless, endless, never ending etc... get it?

infinity + anything = infinity

This is because you simply CANNOT go higher than infinity.
its not even a real number. Its just a concept, like eternity. Eternity = forever, but we will never reach eternity, because it never ends. You can't say you've reached the end of eternity, because the second you do, another second will pass, meaning that that other second was NOT the end of eternity.

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Robert F
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Posted: 10th Apr 2009 02:39 Edited at: 10th Apr 2009 02:43
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That makes no sense still though. If Infinite is not a real number, than how can you say.. divide it by a real number. Infinite / 2 = Infinite. Would it not ALWAYS equal 1/2 of infinite. It would not equal infinite ever. Even if it did grow. It would always be 1/2 of Infinite.

Say infinite did stop growing(I know it can't).

If Infinite stopped at 10, therefore 10 would be infinite.

10/2 = 5

Only problem is, 5 does not equal 10. Making it not infinite, but 1/2 of infinite.

Then Infinite started to grow again..

it grew to 20

20/2 = 10

You get what im saying? Infinite / 2 is always going to = 1/2 of infinite.


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Posted: 10th Apr 2009 02:44
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Quote: "If Infinite is not a real number, than how can you say.. divide it by a real number."


There's the problem you're having - You can't.

Infinity is not actually a "number" per se, consider it a "concept" or "idea" of a number. People often imagine Infinity as the "top of the number line" or something, which is false.

In Calculus, you get into problems where Infinity looks like it appears in problems, but in reality you can't actually use Infinity (because it's not a number!). Numbers can approach infinity, but that's about it.

Ex: 1/Infinity or 1*Infinity are both invalid. Infinity just can't be treated like a normal number.

However, 1/X or 1*X as "X approaches Infinity" would equal 0 and approaching Infinity, respectively.
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Robert F
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Quote: "Ex: 1/Infinity or 1*Infinity are both invalid. Infinity just can't be treated like a normal number."


I knew it! So therefore Infinity + 1 is not valid and cannot be done?


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Posted: 10th Apr 2009 02:47 Edited at: 10th Apr 2009 02:48
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Infinity refers to no number because it's well, infinite, meaning it doesn't end. The number of infinity goes on forever, adding one will still make it infinity.

Apply it to a situation, lets says that space is infinite, so it is never ending, lets add 1 unit of space to that. It doesn't change the size of space because space is still never ending. So the size of space is still infinite.

Or for gamers: if you have infinite lives, how many lives would you have if collecting 1 health heart? Infinite, because you're a horrible cheater.

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Posted: 10th Apr 2009 02:48 Edited at: 10th Apr 2009 02:49
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Quote: "that makes no sense still though. If Infinite is not a real number, than how can you say.. divide it by a real number. "

You can't. Infinity has very few applications in real math. I've never even seen a calculator that has an infinity key, like they have a pi key. Pi is somewhat similar, because it is an infinite SEQUENCE of numbers.
I.E.

rather than just


see, if a human tried to do
"infinity / X"on paper or in their head, they would just not be able to figure it out, like you now. If your tried to do
"infinity / X"
on a calculator, you would be unable, as there is no way for a calculator to calculate what the value of infinity is.
As I said, there is no infinity key.

EDIT: oh, ya beat me to it guys.

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Posted: 10th Apr 2009 02:50 Edited at: 10th Apr 2009 02:52
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Quote: "Apply it to a situation, lets says that space is infinite, so it is never ending, lets add 1 unit of space to that. It doesn't change the size of space because space is still never ending. So the size of space is still infinite."


It does change the size of space. It will always be Infinite + 1 after that. Lets follow your way though.

Infinity - 12 = Infinity.

That's not possible in your case, because infinity is always growing. So how could you take away?

It would always be Infinity - 12


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Posted: 10th Apr 2009 02:53 Edited at: 10th Apr 2009 02:55
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Quote: "I knew it! So therefore Infinity + 1 is not valid and cannot be done?"


Pretty much. I mean, the concept of it just doesn't mean anything -- You can't add to something that already encompasses everything everywhere. Refer to Seppuku's analogy.

Just as another example, what do you think Infinity / Infinity equals? It's not 1, 0, or Infinity -- It isn't defined, just like 1/0 isn't defined -- You're free to write it out and maybe use it in Limits or something, but by itself it doesn't mean anything and simply can't be used as is.


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Quote: "[quote]Apply it to a situation, lets says that space is infinite, so it is never ending, lets add 1 unit of space to that. It doesn't change the size of space because space is still never ending. So the size of space is still infinite."


It does change the size of space. It will always be Infinite + 1 after that. Lets follow your way though.[/quote]

Sorry, no. See, you're still thinking of Infinity as if it is some sort of number that can be used just like any other number you're used to, when it quite simply isn't.

Imagine a math problem involving you adding Potato and 10. Doesn't make much sense because it doesn't mean anything.
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Posted: 10th Apr 2009 02:57 Edited at: 10th Apr 2009 02:57
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Quote: "So how could you take away?"

YOU CAN'T.
Infinity is not a real number, like 2, or 7, or 888. you can't use it in problems with real numbers like you're doing.

Lets say that you have someone who will, for whatever reason, live forever. They will never die, no matter what, and they don't need to eat, or drink or go to the bathroom.
Lets say that this person starts saying "Hello world.". Lets say that they never stop saying it. They just keep on repeating "Hello world." over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
They would never stop saying it, no matter how long you waited. Therefore, they would be saying it an infinite number of times, so long as they never stopped. If you add 1 more "Hello world." to that, its still infinity, because they are still going to keep saying it forever.
See how it works? Infinity + anything is still infinity, because you can't add or subtract or divide or multiply infinity. It just can't happen.

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Posted: 10th Apr 2009 03:02 Edited at: 10th Apr 2009 03:03
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Quote: "YOU CAN'T.
Infinity is not a real number, like 2, or 7, or 888. you can't use it in problems with real numbers like you're doing.

Lets say that you have someone who will, for whatever reason, live forever. They will never die, no matter what, and they don't need to eat, or drink or go to the bathroom.
Lets say that this person starts saying "Hello world.". Lets say that they never stop saying it. They just keep on repeating "Hello world." over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
They would never stop saying it, no matter how long you waited. Therefore, they would be saying it an infinite number of times, so long as they never stopped. If you add 1 more "Hello world." to that, its still infinity, because they are still going to keep saying it forever. See how it works? Infinity + anything is still infinity, because you can't add or subtract or divide or multiply infinity. It just can't happen."


YOUR WRONG! Your whole entire statement is flawed. Right at the top, third sentence.

Quote: "you can't use it in problems with real numbers like you're doing.
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Way down..:

Quote: "If you add 1 more "Hello world." to that, its still infinity, because they are still going to keep saying it forever."


According to you, you can't add 1 "Hello World" because you cant combine infinity with real numbers at all. Infinity + 1 cannot be done.


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Posted: 10th Apr 2009 03:03 Edited at: 10th Apr 2009 03:05
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Quote: "It does change the size of space. It will always be Infinite + 1 after that. Lets follow your way though.

Infinity - 12 = Infinity.

That's not possible in your case, because infinity is always growing. So how could you take away?

It would always be Infinity - 12"


If you have something that never ends, how do you take away something from the end of it?

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Quote: "According to you, you can't add 1 "Hello World" because you cant combine infinity with real numbers at all."


Where do you place that 1 "Hello World" you want to add? Where do you stuff it in?

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It can't be a +1 because it does not increase the answer, because it will continue on forever. You cannot add or subtract from an infinite number.

1 is finite, infinity is well, infinite. You can't take something from something that's infinite or add something to it, because it lasts forever (if we're referring to time), if you try to add something to it, it will not change that fact it'll carry on forever, if you try to take something away, it will still continue forever.


If you could add or subtract, then it wouldn't be infinity, it would be a finite number, thus defeating the point of an infinite number.

Infinity + 1, what would you do with the 1? How do you add to something that's endless? If you added something to something endless, then it won't change it from being endless.

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Quote: "It can't be a +1 because it does not increase the answer, because it will continue on forever. You cannot add or subtract from an infinite number.

1 is finite, infinity is well, infinite. You can't take something from something that's infinite or add something to it, because it lasts forever (if we're referring to time), if you try to add something to it, it will not change that fact it'll carry on forever, if you try to take something away, it will still continue forever.


If you could add or subtract, then it wouldn't be infinity, it would be a finite number, thus defeating the point of an infinite number."


Thats what im trying to say. Thank You!


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Bad example, but the definition of infinate for a DB programmer:

Can you add one more iteration to that?

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Infinity is a concept, not a number, so you can't treat is as one.


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rem ***** MAIN SOURCE FILE *****

MAIN:
gosub REAL_NUMBERS
gosub FAKE_NUMBERS
end

REAL_NUMBERS:
rem A BEER
X=
print str$(X)+" beer"
wait key

rem 2 BEERS
X=+
print str$(X)+" beers"
wait key

rem 7 BEERS
X=++++
print str$(X)+" beers"
wait key
return

FAKE_NUMBERS:
rem NO BEERS
X=(-)
print str$(X)+" beers"
print "You can't visualize no beers, because there is nothing there to visualize"
print "We just accept visualizing the impossible as the number 0, or the word nothing"
wait key

rem ALL THE BEERS
do
inc X,
if scancode()>0 then exit
loop
print str$(X)+" beers"
wait key

rem ALL THE BEERS MINUS HOWEVER MANY YOU LIKE: 4
do
inc X,
if scancode()>0 then exit
loop
dec X,+++
print str$(X)+" beers"
wait key
return

rem ***** END OF MAIN SOURCE FILE *****

Quote: "There is something wrong with my code, the lines after the loops never get run.
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Loops of continually counting numbers symbalise what we call infinity: they carry on forever until you say:
"Stop, I want X to be the number we reached when counting up from 0"
...but at the moment you say stop (or break out of that loop by pressing anykey), it's no longer infinity.

So if you were to take the 4 beers on the 2nd loop just once inside the loop, infinity continually counts up at an infinitely fast speed up to an infinite value, so it is automatically re-added on.

The only way to take a number from infinity is to stop that loop and call X a real number.

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Quote: "Infinity is a concept, not a number, so you can't treat is as one."


That is correct. Infinity has no value.

Discussion + 1 = ???

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Based on Differential Calculus on which I got a whopping (sarcasm) 75...

+∞ + 1 = +∞...

same goes for the indeterminate forms (0/0, X/0 where X>0 or X<0) and -∞.

Say (on the first post,) let x be ∞, then ∞ + 1 = ∞. Correct.
let x be 2, then 2 + 1 = 2. Senseless.

They're right. Infinity is taken as a concept, not a number. If it is regarded as a number, whatever added to it is infinity.

If you want to know more about operations in rel. to infinity, learm about limits.

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Quote: "If

Infinity + 1 = Infinity

Then

X + 1 = X?

If

X + 1 = X

Then Substitute 2 for x

2 + 1 = 2?

That makes no sense at all..."



Lim n = Lim 1/h = oo if n = 1/h
n->oo h->0

Let r be any finite real number
Lim n + r = Lim 1/h + r
n->oo h->0

= Lim (1 + h*r)/h = Lim 1/h = oo
h->0 h->0

Therefore, Lim n = Lim n + r = oo
n->oo n->oo

Clearly n + r is NOT EQUAL to n, for any finite n

So why do we say infinity is not a number?

Since Lim n + r = oo
n->oo
Therefore, for any finite r, -oo < r < 0 the number line does not extend to the left of infinity.
Therefore, infinity cannot be a number on the positive real number line, and the number line is unbounded at infinity.

And therefore, infinity, almost invariably always gives me a splitting headache.
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Quote: "If

Infinity + 1 = Infinity

Then

X + 1 = X?

If

X + 1 = X

Then Substitute 2 for x

2 + 1 = 2?

That makes no sense at all..."


Ugh.

No!

Infinity + 1 = infinity + 1

infinity = infinity

Because, infinity is not an amount. It's not a number. infinity + 1 is just infinity + 1.

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Infinity is not a number but rather a concept. It is a boundless limit.

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Infinity may be ongoing, but as it moves (it must be moving or it has a fixed value, since there is no finite amount of numbers), so there for infinity + 1 = infinity + 1
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GLFW defines infinity as 10000 seconds...

Bit odd that.

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infinity is not defined at the math, and thats why it can not back calculated. so forget about math.

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This reminds me of the 'Divide by zero' thread that was here for a while...


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I really don't see the problem you're having. It makes perfect sense...

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Quote: "Because, infinity is not an amount. It's not a number. infinity + 1 is just infinity + 1."


That's exactly what I thought.


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So what's infinity-infinity? Is it 0 or infinity?

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Infinity, because not matter what you take away from infinity it's still infinity.

If you think very hardly about it, the concept of infinity is so vast it's almost inconcievable...

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Any mathematical concept, be it an Axiom, a Theorem, a Corollary or any of the other varied concepts of mathematics have to be expressed in mathematical terminology. Then only can anything be proved or disproved.

I'm afraid plain English is not sufficient to prove or disprove anything.
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you can't add 1 to infinity, you can't even minus 1 from infinity or divide it or multiply it.
The only reason infinity + 1 = infinity would work is because the operation is totally invalid and infinity is just infinity.
why does this matter anyway, if you're using infinity + 1 in your code you must have a lot of errors

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Quote: "The only reason infinity + 1 = infinity would work is because the operation is totally invalid and infinity is just infinity."


Hmmm, now that I think of it, is not that very operation also a bit the definition of infinity?

If x + 1 = x, then, since x = x + 1, (x + 1) + 1 = x + 1, which means ((x + 1) + 1) + 1) = (x + 1) + 1, and so on, it just never stops. Thereby, infinity + 1 = infinity is in a way a good description of infinity.

Of course this was just a random thought that popped up in my head, and might not be very valid at all, lol!

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Now the cool thing is a circle has an infinite number of points in it. But if one circle is bigger than the other, then one infinity is greater than the other.

There's also countably infinite and uncountably infinite. For example, the set of all numbers greater than zero is countably infinite, because you can count the numbers in the set since it has a starting point. However, the set of all numbers, positive and negative, is uncountably infinite.

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Quote: "But if one circle is bigger than the other, then one infinity is greater than the other."


No, because they both an equal number of points... infinite.

Quote: "because you can count the numbers in the set since it has a starting point"


A starting point alloys you start counting. To finish counting, you need an end, and infinity doesn't have one.

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Sure you can, you filthy mormon.

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I think what he is trying to say is that when a set has a lower bound or upper bound, then it is said to be countable. An uncountable set has neither an upper or lower bound.

Quote: "But if one circle is bigger than the other, then one infinity is greater than the other.
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That would be the graphical representation of the equation
Lim n = Lim n+r = oo
n->oo n->oo

where the larger circle has a finite number of points r more than the smaller circle, 0 < r < oo
And in fact it proves the contrary. That the limit of both tends to the same infinity.
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Quote: "If x + 1 = x, then, since x = x + 1, (x + 1) + 1 = x + 1, which means ((x + 1) + 1) + 1) = (x + 1) + 1, and so on, it just never stops. Thereby, infinity + 1 = infinity is in a way a good description of infinity."


But x doesn't equal x+1

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Quote: "I think what he is trying to say is that when a set has a lower bound or upper bound, then it is said to be countable. An uncountable set has neither an upper or lower bound."


No, that is not what countable and uncountable mean.

'Countable' means that there are 'the same number of these as there are integers'; for example, there are 'the same number' of even numbers as there are whole numbers; there are also 'the same number' of rational numbers as there are whole numbers!

However, there ARE NOT 'the same number' of whole numbers as there are real numbers, even though there are infinitely many whole numbers.

A set that is countable has 'the same number' of elements as the integers, and a set that is uncountable has 'the same number' of elements as the real numbers.

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Z - the integers - is unbounded but countable, and [0,1] - the reals between 0 and 1 is bounded but uncountable.

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Quote: "However, the set of all numbers, positive and negative, is uncountably infinite."


No, they are countable like this; 1, -1, 2, -2, 3, -3, 4, -4, ...

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Posted: 14th Apr 2009 13:35 Edited at: 14th Apr 2009 13:43
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hmm just was thinking about that and i noticed something


divide both sides by infinity

(infinity + 1)/infinity = infinity/infinity


which also equals

infinity/infinity+1/infinity = infinity/infinity


both of the infinity/infinitys cancel each other out

1/infinity=0


multiply both sides by infinity

1/infinity * infinity = 0*infinity


which is

1 = 0

??????????????????????????????????????????????????
must be a mistake somewhere...


EDIT: i think i know. 1/0 = infinity so 0*infinity must equal 1

EDIT AGAIN: 2/0 also = infinity so 0*infinity = anything but 0?

which also means that infinity = 2*infinity so i think that answers your question.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2009 17:31 Edited at: 14th Apr 2009 17:31
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You cannot perform addition or subtration on infinity!

(infinity + 1)/infinity = infinity/infinity

Reduces to

infinity + 1/infinity = 1

which is exactly the same as

infinity + 1 - infinity

Which doesn't make any sense, because infinity + 1 is only equal to infinity + 1

Just because a number is imaginary doesn't mean it can somehow magically violate the laws of algebra.

I mean, i+1 doesn't equal i and i is just as variable/unreal as infinity.

EDIT:

Also, interestingly enough:

1/0 = x

1 = 0x

but

0/0 = x

0 = 0x

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Posted: 14th Apr 2009 22:35 Edited at: 15th Apr 2009 02:01
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Quote: "No, that is not what countable and uncountable mean.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncountable
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countable_set

Looks like you did your wiki research while I didn't.
I don't base my arguments on Google search but whatever I already know and you won't find my proofs anywhere on the net, because they are all done in real time.
And I agree that I did take a blind shot at what appeared to be countable and uncountable based on my intuition. And there is absolutely no place for intuition in the field of mathematics.
My folly.

Here's some more...
http://pirate.shu.edu/projects/reals/infinity/countble.html

And some more...
http://www.sciforums.com/encyclopedia/Countable_infinity

And some more... or should I stop now.
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Posted: 14th Apr 2009 22:42
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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 00:48 Edited at: 15th Apr 2009 01:59
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@Chris
You really bring out the best in me.
Every time I re-visit what I had previously studied I realise how flawed all the theorems and proofs are.

Here's the contradiction.

The set of natural numbers can be either defined as
N1 = {1,2,3...}
N2 = {0,1,2,3...}
depending on which definition of natural numbers you follow.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/NaturalNumber.html

A set S is said to be countable if there exists a bijection from S to the set of natural numbers N
Let S = N2 and N = N1
Clearly, S here has a cardinality that is greater than N and there exists no bijection from S to N
Therefore the set of natural numbers N2 is uncountable if we assume that N1 is the set of natural numbers
But the set of natural numbers N2 is supposed to be countable and infinite.

It appears therefore that the method of enumeration and countability as suggested by Cantor is flawed because it is not even clear whether the set of natural numbers is N1 or N2

I further refer you to a statement by Poincare about the apparent folly of Cantor. In Poincares exact words "Later generations will regared Cantor's Mengenlehre(Set Theory) as a disease from which one has recovered."

Quote: "A set that is countable has 'the same number' of elements as the integers, and a set that is uncountable has 'the same number' of elements as the real numbers.
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No, a countable set S is a bijection from the set S to the set of natural numbers and has the cardinality of the set of natural numbers depending on which definition of natural numbers you follow.
An uncountable set is one that is not countable. i.e. has a cardinality greater than the set of natural numbers. That's all. The set of Real numbers just happens to be one example of an uncountable set.

Quote: "Quote: "However, the set of all numbers, positive and negative, is uncountably infinite."

No, they are countable like this; 1, -1, 2, -2, 3, -3, 4, -4, ...

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No, the set of all numbers, positive and negative, is the set of Real numbers minus the singleton set containing a single element 0.
This set is uncountable and infinite.
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Quote: "Let S = N2 and N = N1
Clearly, S here has a cardinality that is greater than N and there exists no bijection from S to N"


Sigh...
Here's a tip - never, ever, ever use 'Clearly' in any of your maths.

There is a very obvious bijection from S to N, ie. M(n) = n + 1.

See if you can check whether this is bijective, you need to check...
1. That it is surjective (ie there is something that maps to every element of N)
2. That it is injective (ie that each element of N is hit by only one element of S)

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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 06:14 Edited at: 15th Apr 2009 06:16
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This is so easy. Infinity + 1 = Infinity + 1.
Subtract Infinity from both sides, and you get 1 = 1.
Then, subtract 1 from both sides and you get 0 = 0.
Don't you see? 0 = 0!

We were trying to prove that 0 = 0, right?

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Posted: 15th Apr 2009 11:42 Edited at: 15th Apr 2009 11:43
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Infinity + 1 is like saying 'add one to happiness'. Happiness is a concept, just like infinity.

Happiness + 1 = Happiness

So take away happiness from both sides...

Or in programming terms, the operators + or - are not defined for objects of type 'happiness' or 'infinity'

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Quote: "Happiness + 1 = Happiness

So take away happiness from both sides..."


1's going to be lonely
Nice analogy btw, this is useful for my reports!!!

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