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Posted: 28th May 2009 11:06
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We put you there. You are us. Live with it.

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Posted: 28th May 2009 11:57 Edited at: 28th May 2009 11:58
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Quote: "Quote: "What your saying is like saying that people can't go into London without expecting a bomb to go off right next to them"
Do you know about anything happening in America? Instead of that puny country that burned that the white house? We not only had a columbine but we had a school shooting in VA Tech, not no stupid bombing in freaking London! While your sipping your tea we just saved your ass from the Nazis!(British people please don't take of what I say seriously if I hurt your feelings I'm really sorry,God there's going to be a riot at my house because of this, maybe the Game Creators who look at this are going to think I'm a nationalist,sorry )

Oh crud its going to be reported as abusive..."



Just as well I find it difficult to understand what you're trying to say. But from what I can tell, it seems you have a very simplistic way of looking at things. America may have saved the day during WW2, but we made you, all US base are belong to us, or they would be if it weren't for that bloody revolution, pssh.


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I'll have you know that tea rules, it goes especially well with crumpets, by a warm log fire and pipe. What ho ol' chaps!

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Posted: 28th May 2009 13:19
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I genuinely just dipped a Hobnob into a cup of tea, munched on it, and then said the word "Spiffing!". Who wants to touch me?

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Posted: 28th May 2009 13:24
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Quote: "Who wants to touch me?"


I thought you'd never ask.


Hobnobs are awesome; the yanks don't even know what they're missing.

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Posted: 28th May 2009 13:26
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Quote: "we had a school shooting in VA Tech, not no stupid bombing in freaking London!"

... I think the Blitz killed more children than a school shooting.

Also, the ONLY biscuit you are allowed to dip into tea is a rich tea digestive.

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Posted: 28th May 2009 13:31
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Quote: "Also, the ONLY biscuit you are allowed to dip into tea is a rich tea digestive."


Damn you, and your 'going by the book'. Can't an Englishman be a bit of a renegade now and then, and dip a hobnob into a tea, without getting grief from his fellow countrymen? You sir, are a cad of the first water, and I don't care which other fellow knows it!

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Posted: 28th May 2009 13:51 Edited at: 28th May 2009 13:52
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He's from Worcester, so he feels all high and mighty about the whole food industry because of Worcestershire sauce, which any South Park viewer will understand that it should never be used as embalming fluid for the risk of zombification. So it's nothing to be proud of.

I suppose I'll be shot-down for dipping shortcakes into tea as well...or as I did as a kid, raw spaghetti.

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Posted: 28th May 2009 14:49
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Parenting?

Gee I'm glad I don't have my own hillbilly gun drawing toting kids. If I had , I would surely haven beaten the crap out of them for even thinking about guns.

Where's Doctor Phil and his fake P.H.D I can just picture him saying to me beating your kids senseless isn't the answer. Well it worked for me as well as my 2 brothers.
If we broke some thing denial was the answer it didn't work we still got a hiding.

I'm still old school and a giving kid a fear induced coma should he ever do so thing wrong he will get a hiding like there is no tomorrow. The removal of punishment in schools and
judicial system is the problem. I was the last generation that had the luxury of getting proper punishment for doing some thing wrong.

It's the parents who live in fear of their kids suing them or violating their human rights by
unfair punishment. Where are the days when you got a bar of soap or pepper for a potty mouth. Where are the days when mom told you to be home 9pm and you got a hiding for being 10 min late. Kids will always test boundaries, now without fear of punishment those boundaries have no limits what is the worse that can happen. Gee, lets draw heman decapitating Mr Knowitalls dressed as superman I will miss 3rd period, YAY.!! In my day if you drew a guy with a dress on you were send for counseling.

What the real problem is, what is deemed acceptable morally today compared to 20 years back. Sex changes breast enlargements blah blah ect.

Talking about morals my Sisters morals are lower than my car's suspension.

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Posted: 28th May 2009 15:36 Edited at: 28th May 2009 15:38
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I think it's okay to smack your kid to tell them off for doing something wrong, though only enough for it to stick as a reminder for doing something wrong - nothing hand, a slap on the behind works, so not beating them to a pulp or causing any physical or psychological damage. For teens, they're harder to control - I think having a bit more respect when they grow old works better and are more likely to listen to reason, especially if they feel like they can talk to you and know that you can handle their problems.

Causing fear in your kids/teens is actually going to more likely cause them to shoot the place up, because they won't turn to a parent they fear for advice or simple one on one talk about their problems and certainly there would be repressed emotions - if you build on top of repression, then those emotions explode and that could potentially be in a violent way.

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Mr Seppuku is correct. "If we broke some thing denial was the answer it didn't work we still got a hiding." is a good indication that you didn't learn much from getting a hiding. All you learnt was getting a hiding wasn't nice, so you tried to lie your way out of it. As a kid, I never got a hiding, but I remember being made to understand the implications of my actions. When I upturned a whole bucket of engine oil on my dads new patio, I had to spend a whole day scrubbing it off. That was after my dad made me feel very guilty by explaining to me just how much time he'd put into that patio.

Had he just giving me a good thrashing, I wouldn't've learnt spilling the oil was bad because of being afraid of getting beaten. As it turns out, I learnt spilling the oil was bad because of the massive amount of time required to put the mistake right, and the amount of effort my dad had potentially wasted. In my opinion, one of those lessons is more beneficial than the other.

I think hitting a kid is only good for a kid that will not listen. Hitting a kid as a form of punishment, even though he'll listen to reason, won't achieve anything except making them afraid to turn to you when things go wrong.

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Posted: 28th May 2009 17:28 Edited at: 28th May 2009 17:30
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Quote: "Do you know about anything happening in America? Instead of that puny country that burned that the white house? We not only had a columbine but we had a school shooting in VA Tech, not no stupid bombing in freaking London! While your sipping your tea we just saved your ass from the Nazis!(British people please don't take of what I say seriously if I hurt your feelings I'm really sorry,God there's going to be a riot at my house because of this, maybe the Game Creators who look at this are going to think I'm a nationalist,sorry )
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Nazis, eh? That was over 70 years ago. I bet you don't even know the first thing about WWII, but you're first out of the gate to get all patriotic about it. Oh, and by the way, I was on your side of this whole argument, so what the hell are you getting all pissed off about? And yes, I think I know a whole lot more about what's happening in America than you know about what's happening in the UK. Also, the 7/7 bombings in London killed more people than the columbine and virginia tech massacres put together, so shut it. My god, you don't seem to have a clue about any of the crap you're spewing!

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Posted: 28th May 2009 17:33
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Quote: "While your sipping your tea"

Gee I wonder why people consider Americans ignorant.

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Posted: 28th May 2009 17:40
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Quote: "Instead of that puny country that burned that the white house?"


Even though Canada wasn't officially a country at the time, it was the people north of the US who burnt the white house down. There's still scorch marks.

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Posted: 28th May 2009 17:51 Edited at: 28th May 2009 17:52
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Tell me about it, I just spat my tea over my computer screen form shock of what he said!
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Posted: 28th May 2009 19:19
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I think hitting a kid is only good for a kid that will not listen. Hitting a kid as a form of punishment, even though he'll listen to reason, won't achieve anything except making them afraid to turn to you when things go wrong."


Yes, the first things my parents did was tell me off and not smack me, but it worked well as a threat; "If you don't stop doing that, then you'll get a smack", which leaves too choices, 1: Stop, 2: Worsen your situation. Most kids don't like getting a smark, so normally '1' is preferred. Of course, if number 2, the threat would actually be delivered, it's no point given hollow threats to kids because they'll see it as a sign of weakness. Unfortunately over the last few years it seems kids just have the great power of screaming "you're abusing me", which is perhaps a fear for parents.

Teachers has even less power, I have a friend training to be a teacher and some of the things she tells me is mad, for example, you can't call a kid naughty anymore, because it implies something bad about the student, you have to tell them that their behaviour is naughty. I'm glad I'm out of school now and am neither a teacher nor parent.

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Posted: 29th May 2009 01:23 Edited at: 29th May 2009 01:28
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Quote: "While your sipping your tea we just saved your ass from the Nazis!"


I never get this comment. Are you planning on crediting anything to the Russians? Their turnaround on the Eastern front was pretty vital to the victory of the allies. The battle of Britain was over by the time you joined, and our military coped fine solo in that - granted the lend lease act and other North American supplies. The allies would have been in trouble without the USA, but the same could be said about any of the other main allied contributors.

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Yeah, no kidding. This whole damn thread is a testament to that!

My parents never hit me once (at least not that I can remember) and I never tried to test them or anything. My parents taught me to be responsible, and responsible children don't do things they're not supposed to do just to do them. The problem nowadays is that many parents give in to their children too much ('cause quite frankly, they don't really care), and so they never get this sense of responsibility. I'm not saying you should beat the crap out of your kid whenever he does something bad or wants something, just learn to say "that's not right, don't do it" or even simply "no". Hitting your children only makes them hate you, and children that hate their parents and their lives are more likely to go on killing sprees.

And for love of God, stop this whole national American vs British bull ****. It's just pathetic, WWII was decades ago.

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Ok, ok I'm sorry everyone I was a dick to your country. Lets just get back to the topic I told you in parenthesis to not take it seriously
Quote: "British people please don't take of what I say seriously if I hurt your feelings I'm really sorry"
Pus in Boots I'm really sorry to you. I F up pretty good. This thing would have stopped if my previous comment showed up. I guess it does in a funny way that this post deals with this thing. I started this offensive bullcrap and I want to end it. Right now lets respond to what Seppuku Arts said and stay on topic.
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Apology accepted. Now I'm off to sip tea.

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Posted: 29th May 2009 18:13
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From a coffee mug? What kind of Englishman are you?!!

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Posted: 29th May 2009 19:16
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Quote: "From a coffee mug? What kind of Englishman are you?!! "


Let's ask the magic 8 ball!

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Well.. Hmm. *ahem* What kind of Englishman are you?!


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Posted: 29th May 2009 20:16 Edited at: 29th May 2009 20:19
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Quote: "Hitting your children only makes them hate you, and children that hate their parents and their lives are more likely to go on killing sprees."


Not true, I grew up with a great relationship with my parents and still have that - smacking was just reinforcing getting told off and did not work like an 'abuse' situation, anything that causes too much pain or trauma would cause hate. 'No' sometimes isn't enough, especially if a child chooses to rebel, as they sometimes do, my brother and sister were particularly bad with that, and they still get on really well with our parents. My friends are actually quite suprised by the way we communicate with each other, especially about what we joke about or that I can openly call my Dad names and he call them back (not in any kind of malicious way). There's plenty of respect in our family and no one fears or hates anybody becase we were smacked as children.

Quote: "Ok, ok I'm sorry everyone I was a dick to your country. Lets just get back to the topic I told you in parenthesis to not take it seriously"


I think it's more or less the way you said it, it sounded as though you harboured those views, but either way, I just see it as good banter material, particularly the tea, because we know that part is true. Come on, there's nothing wrong with national banter as long as nobody gets too serious.

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An Aussie Englishman.....

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I'm neither, I'm a scottish/irish australian.

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