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Posted: 4th Nov 2009 22:15 Edited at: 17th Jan 2010 10:17
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MODERN WARFARE 2 OUTRAGE



THE OLD OUTRAGE!

I have just been told that anyone who has pre-ordered MW2 at game has already received it by now. Even though they should be waiting until next week. That really annoys me, it doesn't stop there though, because all those who have ordered the game in Britain with some one other than game will have to wait an extra week (after the release) until the games will even be sent out to you.

THE LATEST OUTRAGE!

This game had so much hype, but almost all serious computer gamers were very disappointed with the result, especially multiplayer... Single player story was rediculas and very unreal... Multiplayer had terrible connection and an untaught-out class system with more powerful weapons being unlocked early (like ACR) and rediculasly week weapons being unlocked right at the end (One man army and F200).


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Take it up with the store you preordered at.

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Oh. Em. Gee.

Some people will be one week better at it than you! This will not stand. And game companies have never rewarded pre-ordering games before now either! Raaaaaage

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Quote: "Take it up with the store you preordered at."


The only reason you pre-order it (normally costing more than it would at the store) is so that you are one of the first people to get the game.

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Posted: 4th Nov 2009 22:39 Edited at: 4th Nov 2009 22:40
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Are you sure they actually have the game, and not a dispatch email?

Through Game, its sent to a courier service free of charge, so the dispatch email is probably notifying them its been sent to the courier, and not to their home.

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I was talking to my mate who has just got back from one of his mates who has been playing on MW2 on Xbox360 tonight. So it is the actual thing and not just dispatch.

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Why do you care? How does it affect you that some people get it early and you have to get it on time? It's just one week, you'll have the rest of your life to play the game if you want.


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Maybe this is a way to get some coffers into the game industry. I mean, if people pre-order, it's money in the bank, and they start encouraging them to do that by sending games early.

Sounds good to me, I order most of my games online, and I do pre-order, will do that more often if it means I get the game I just bought earlier than people who haven't bought it yet. Do you wish you'd pre-ordered now?


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Quote: "Why do you care? How does it affect you that some people get it early and you have to get it on time? It's just one week, you'll have the rest of your life to play the game if you want."


Cause im quite a serious gamer and me and my mates have been waiting for this game for several months now.

Quote: "Maybe this is a way to get some coffers into the game industry. I mean, if people pre-order, it's money in the bank, and they start encouraging them to do that by sending games early."


I did pre-order. Its only the people who got the pre-order with Game (shop in england, not sure if it is in america) who are getting it early. Every other pre-orderer needs to wait an extra week or so.

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Quote: "Cause im quite a serious gamer and me and my mates have been waiting for this game for several months now."

And you can't stand to wait 5 more days after all those months for it?


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I am outraged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Next they'll be telling us there are no dedicated servers for the PC version or that you won't be able to play the online part of the game if your in Party Chat on the 360.

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Posted: 5th Nov 2009 02:46 Edited at: 5th Nov 2009 02:46
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It's already hitting the news:



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Oh, boo hoo, you have to wait another week. Rage.

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I won't even be playing this game...meh. FPS games are so overrated...

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LOL Thraxas, I wonder how many people assume that's a real clip and don't bother reading it .

I wonder if that sort of thing does get to the newspaper, I mean it'd be on the news if it was a Harry Potter book.


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Never played the series, and after reading some interviews about, probably not my cup of tea.

Though I'll agree that people who receive pre-orders early is a smart move on a company. Will convince more people to pre-order with them on the next game.


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How dare some company release something early to people that have already paid for it!

LOL Thraxas!


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The thing is that everyone has already payed for it. If you were to buy it from the store it would be cheeper, so expecting an on time delivery costing more and you dont get your money.

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Quote: "I won't even be playing this game...meh. FPS games are so overrated..."


So why post in here?


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Quote: "The thing is that everyone has already payed for it. If you were to buy it from the store it would be cheeper, so expecting an on time delivery costing more and you dont get your money"


So you're still getting exactly what you expected, and what you paid for... It's just some other people have a few days advantage... I really just don't see your point at all.

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Quote: "So you're still getting exactly what you expected, and what you paid for..."


No. For pre-order you pay an extra £5 - £10. This means an instant delivary when the game is officially released. So if we get the game a week later, it will be £5 - £10 cheaper to have gont straight to the store when the game is released.

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Oh for God sakes. I'm SO sick of hearing about Modern Warfare 2. The first one was mediocre and this one will be too. I've never seen people so obsessed over a game that is the same as the other 4. A WHOLE WEEK TO WAIT OH MY GOD. Please. There are better games to get upset about.

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Quote: " The first one was mediocre"


You might want to look up the meaning of the word "mediocre", for in the world of FPS, the Call Of Duty Games are in NO way "below average".

It's fair enough to be sick of hearing about it if you aren't a fan of FPS games. I'm not usually a fan, either.

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My three fav games (not including TGC software) are Far Cry 2, Crysis and Modern Warfare (2 when it comes out)

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Sir i belive you need a persective check. You are getting EXACTLY what you paid for. The copy of the game on the OFFICIAL release date. Stop your moaning and be glad you have the £50 to blow on a disc.

Sorry i forgot that you people could become 'L33t' (shudders) in a week, compettivce or not, the severs are going to get screwed by the other 100,000+ users all getting thiers on the offical realese date.

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Quote: "You might want to look up the meaning of the word "mediocre", for in the world of FPS, the Call Of Duty Games are in NO way "below average".

It's fair enough to be sick of hearing about it if you aren't a fan of FPS games. I'm not usually a fan, either."


Mediocre means either moderate or low. I meant moderate. If I meant low quality I would have said low.

Anyway, compare Call of Duty 4 to Bad Company. Graphically Bad Company is more advanced, being it came out about a year later. It's also got more interactive and more in depth game play. If Bad Company would have been released before Call of Duty, it would have made a killing, but since Call of Duty came out first, people simply dealt with what they got. (Here comes the "OMG NO CALL OF DUTY IS DAH GREATEST!")

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Quote: "I did pre-order. Its only the people who got the pre-order with Game (shop in england, not sure if it is in america) who are getting it early"


Simple solution. Next time do some research and pre-order from wherever will have the earliest release date. You ARE getting what you paid for. You paid for a pre-order to be delivered when you are going to get it. You didn't buy from the place that offered it a week earlier. Tough luck, life moves on.


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Quote: "The thing is that everyone has already payed for it. If you were to buy it from the store it would be cheeper, so expecting an on time delivery costing more and you dont get your money."


Why did you pre-order it then?

Pre-ordering gives you the advantage over in-store customers and people who didn't pre-order. Correct? Has this changed? No.

Buying in store means hassle - you might find you're too late and people have beaten you to acquiring the game, so you have to wait another week until they have it in stock. I found this with with Spore and Fallout 3. But then I have enough patience and am enough of a cheap-skate to not pre-order.

You were expecting to receive the game on release date when you pre-ordered, how does any of this change that? It doesn't mean you're not going to get your copy...and you're going to get it on the date you agreed. You've not suddenly been charged extra, it's just other people who have pre-ordered managed to get the better deal. It hasn't changed your deal one bit, has it?

So you're getting exactly what you paid for, just GAME customers got it 1 week earlier. What difference does this make to you and how does this breach your pre-order agreement?

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Quote: "Anyway, compare Call of Duty 4 to Bad Company. Graphically Bad Company is more advanced, being it came out about a year later. It's also got more interactive and more in depth game play. If Bad Company would have been released before Call of Duty, it would have made a killing, but since Call of Duty came out first, people simply dealt with what they got. (Here comes the "OMG NO CALL OF DUTY IS DAH GREATEST!")"


Bad Company was good, but not Modern Warfare good. (In my opinion, Benjamin)


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The story, no, but multiplayer SLAUGHTERED Modern Warfare's.

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Quote: "The story, no, but multiplayer SLAUGHTERED Modern Warfare's."

That's just a matter of personal taste. I love MW and like BF:BC for different reasons, they play completely differently and you can't compare them. CoD4 - customization, fast-paced, more realistic, more maps, better level design (more developed), and more weapons. BF:BC - larger maps, people have more health (which I don't like), vehicles, destructible environments.

There is no way you can claim CoD4 is mediocre, there is nothing about the game that is mediocre.


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Quote: "There is no way you can claim CoD4 is mediocre, there is nothing about the game that is mediocre."


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Wow...CoD4 was an amazing game. In my opinion, it is up there with Bioshock and HL2 as FPS games with brilliant narratives. One of the first games I have played that deal with death like that too. Every level was created with care.

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Personally I like both COD4 and BF:BC.

What I don't like are people who constantly complain about a popular game almost as if it is just because it's popular.

If you don't like it, fine, but don't treat it like it's dirt. Obviously it sold well, so from a developer's perspective, it was practically gold.

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Well, it's entirely a person's opinion on whether or not they enjoy CoD, I mean a game isn't going to provide everything everybody is looking for in a game. Though calling it mediocre is a little unfair, because regardless of whether or not you enjoy it, it's not mediocre. There is a lot to the CoD games, enough to stop it from being mediocre.

I enjoyed the CoD games, but realise that not every FPS player is going to and that's up to them more than anything. I've never played Bad Company, from watching the trailer, it seems to be a comedy, which is great, but if you're looking for a serious War shoot-em up, then BC wouldn't be on your list, like if you wanted to lighten up a little, CoD wouldn't be on your list. This I suppose would make their target audiences ever so slightly different.

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Well the multiplayer in BF:BC isn't any more comical than a typical war shooter - although it is quite entertaining and very explosive. Although I never could understand why an explosion could go off right next to you and you wouldn't be killed - it seems like the splash damage radius on all explosives is really low

But that's off topic...moving on...

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Quote: "No. For pre-order you pay an extra £5 - £10. This means an instant delivary when the game is officially released. So if we get the game a week later, it will be £5 - £10 cheaper to have gont straight to the store when the game is released."

You are getting the game when it's officially released. On the day it's officially released. The Game orders were obviously sent out before the official release (why, I don't know). Nevertheless, quit your whining.

You still have the advantage over the majority of customers. Does the fact that you don't have the advantage over everyone really upset you that much?

And what about people that get their post delivered slightly earlier than you? Or that wake up earlier? Surely this terrible slight will not stand.

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Quote: " Does the fact that you don't have the advantage over everyone really upset you that much?"


Myslef and lots of other people have paid that extra amount of money, we should get what we paid for. And apparently Amazon is on strike

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Quote: "extra amount of money"

It might just be how it is over here in the US, or even just here in Oregon, but when I've preordered things, it's usually $5-$10 down payment to reserve a copy the day it comes out. Usually, with that down payment, you get a special in game item, or other promotional item (with Scribblenauts for the DS, I got this hat.) We don't pay an extra amount of money or anything. All preordering seems to mean is reserving a copy of the game to be picked up on the day it comes out, while getting promotional bonuses added on.

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Quote: " special in game item, or other promotional item"


Wonder if we get anything special over here...?

Quote: "to be picked up on the day it comes out"


I got it from amazon so it should be delivered in the post.

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You have. Just because GAME messed up(?) and did it earlier than they should've, doesn't change the fact that you are getting exactly what you payed for.

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I'll probably get it on monday next week. It's been despatched by Game


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Quote: "There is no way you can claim CoD4 is mediocre, there is nothing about the game that is mediocre."


The sounds: Old re-edited sounds from the previous games. Especially whenever you shoot metal.

Decals: Old decals, used in their other games.

Story: As with every game that is majorly overrated, terrorists, Russians, and nukes.

Every character felt out of place. There was no real emotional connection with the characters, thus you didn't feel bad at the end. Though I did wonder the fate of Captain Price, it really doesn't bother me or not whether he's in Modern Warfare 2.

As for multiplayer...it's average. It's basically like Counter-Strike and its derivatives, fun to play, but no real team work or challenge is present.

You guys are simply calling it a great game since it sold a lot, but if you REALLY take the time to look at it, it's an average FPS.

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Um, I don't think we're saying that because it sold a lot. Wii Play sold a lot too, but it's not generally considered a great game. Personally I'm calling it a great game because I really enjoyed it--- second to Half-Life 2 for favourite FPS'. It's called personal opinion


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We get those in modern society? My whole life has been a lie!




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I have not enjoyed any of the previous COD's, and i really thought COD5 was bad, apart from zombies. COD4 was good and i cant wait for COD6 (MW2) because it will have a tough act to follow, COD4 and tough graphics to follow in COD5. I didnt really like COD5 due to the story but i did like the graphics and the gameplay was okay.

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Quote: "The sounds: Old re-edited sounds from the previous games. Especially whenever you shoot metal.

Decals: Old decals, used in their other games."


Real deal breakers you've picked up on there.

I mean don't they read the news? The way guns sound changed last year...so did the way they impact various materials.

Strong point you've got there.

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By decals are you referring to things such as particle effects when a bullet hits something or the actual holes in the walls? Or are you referring to the patches on the soldier's uniforms?

In any case, I doubt that the effect produced by a bullet hitting metal has changed much since WW2. Maybe due to the type of ammunition but really, that's what makes it 'mediocre'?

What about the characters made them feel out of place? I don't remember seeing Santa Claus pop up with an M60 and start killing anything he saw. They all looked like soldiers, seemed to act like soldiers (at least in a theatrical way) and I sure as hell felt like Captain Price was a commander I could look up to (or at least that kind of person).

And you say the multiplayer has no challenge "like Counter-Strike". So you are suggesting that you can jump onto any CSS or COD4 server and kill everyone without taking a hit? Or is challenge not the other player's ability but the duty of the game to somehow make the game more difficult for you?

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