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Veron
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 06:07 Edited at: 21st Jan 2010 06:07
Well, i'm sorry that it came off that way, the point I was trying to make is that the physical strength of a person of TP's age is obviously going to be very low, nothing near the strength required to be in the SOF/equal to a 20 year old.

General Jackson
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 17:07
Well, i am older by a couple of years, I do pushups\situps\running every day and I'm not nearly as stong as a 20 yearold

Fallout
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 18:03
I live with a 25 year old who is weaker than supermarket own brand beer. I wager a new born baby would be more ripped than him. However, I think for the most part, younger teens will be weaker than 20 somethings. Now I say it, surely that's obvious?!?!

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 18:10
Well, we could test this theory, I'm 20 years old, now, which of you kiddies would like a fight?

General Jackson
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 19:03
Quote: "Well, we could test this theory, I'm 20 years old, now, which of you kiddies would like a fight"

Hey, whoa! You iz callin' me a kiddie!

Alright, I'm on.
Be at da town square at 8:00 sharp! I'm waitin'.

One question. Is it gunz or fistz?


{in case anyone is dense enough to think I'm serious, I'm not }

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 19:09
I'm the ripe old age of 15, and I know there's no chance of me taking on a 20 year old in a fight... but then again I'm skin and bone and pacifist. On the other hand, I know some pretty scrawny 20 year olds and some pretty chunky 15 year olds.

Also, the idea of a 13 year old who has already decided he wants to die for his country sickens me.

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General Jackson
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 19:10
Quote: "Also, the idea of a 13 year old who has already decided he wants to die for his country sickens me.
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Yeah, think about living not dieing

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 19:14
Quote: "One question. Is it gunz or fistz?"


Neither. We shall use LAPTOPS AS BLUDGEONING INSTRUMENTS. BYAAA!



Anyway, jumping from the military to religion to ageism all in a couple of pages? Some of you guys take stuff way too seriously.

General Jackson
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 19:16
Quote: "Neither. We shall use LAPTOPS AS BLUDGEONING INSTRUMENTS. BYAAA!"



Ohhoo yeah baby!

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 19:38
Quote: "Anyway, jumping from the military to religion to ageism all in a couple of pages? Some of you guys take stuff way too seriously."

Taking life, death, and the creation of the universe too seriously is a habit of mine. Sorry.

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 20:44
The first step is recognizing there's a problem.

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 20:51
Quote: "One question. Is it gunz or fistz?"


I'm not catching the next flight to the land of the yanks for a fight for it only to be over in a second. If I'm having to come over there, it'll have to be epic. No guns. Hordes of demons or seraphs on the other hand? (depending on your style) I can dig that.

Quote: "Anyway, jumping from the military to religion to ageism all in a couple of pages? Some of you guys take stuff way too seriously."


Just a tad. We're geeks with no life, what did you expect?

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 20:56
Sep, I'm in England if you still wanna prove your theory

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 20:58 Edited at: 21st Jan 2010 21:01
Ha ha, I like my freedom, beating up a kid isn't going to look good on my record either.

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 21:11
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Neither. We shall use LAPTOPS AS BLUDGEONING INSTRUMENTS. BYAAA!"


Old dell latops would be brilliant for this!

Quote: "Ha ha, I like my freedom, beating up a kid isn't going to look good on my record either. "


Are you backing down?!?!?!, Insert Name Here is declared the winner!. if you were so worried about your record just wear a steven hawkins mask.
General Jackson
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 21:38
Quote: "I'm not catching the next flight to the land of the yanks for a fight for it only to be over in a second. If I'm having to come over there, it'll have to be epic. No guns. Hordes of demons or seraphs on the other hand? (depending on your style) I can dig that."

Alright then.
Bring on your armies.
I have a tower setup with ten-thousand orcs at my disposal.

All armed with orc-swords
Quote: "Just a tad. We're geeks with no life, what did you expect?

"



Yeah, seriously man, what WOULD you expect?
Quote: "Quote: "Ha ha, I like my freedom, beating up a kid isn't going to look good on my record either. "

Are you backing down?!?!?!, Insert Name Here is declared the winner!. if you were so worried about your record just wear a steven hawkins mask. "


Ahhh! Maybe you are afraid of my orcs too?

lazerus
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 21:57 Edited at: 21st Jan 2010 22:00
Seppuku Arts, thanks for that, i really should read up more, what i was trying to point out was it dosnt really matter what your religion is. You have just the same rights as everyone else to get married.

I guess it snowballed so ill apoligise for that. hmmm need to keep an eye on how i phrase things.

Edit woah page 3? whoops lol.

Intercepts ork hoard with flying monkeys loaded with apples.

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 22:01
Quote: "Some of you guys take stuff way too seriously."


NO WE DON'T! I HATE YOU!! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE! (I didn't even copy+paste that, I typed it!!! THAT'S HOW ANGRY I AM!!!)

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General Jackson
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 22:04
Quote: "Intercepts ork hoard with flying monkeys loaded with apples."

Sorry, but your monkeys FAILED

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 22:05
No problem Laz, but yes, you can get married no matter what your beliefs are.

Quote: " if you were so worried about your record just wear a steven hawkins mask."


Ha ha, well, at least the police won't investigate that one, "Hello, Emergency Services, how can I help you?"
"Oh my God! I just saw Stephen Hawkins beat up a teenager."
"Sir, if you can't take this service seriously then we'll just have to charge you."


Quote: "Ahhh! Maybe you are afraid of my orcs too?"


I have Vikings at my disposal, they don't call me the Little Norse Prince for nothing. Failing that, Thor and his mighty hammer of thunder - he and I tend to hang out.



Though this thread has slowly slipped into the Posting Competition, so unless this actually moves onto the Positing Competition thread, then I am out of this random conversation.

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 22:05 Edited at: 21st Jan 2010 22:06
Fallout we shall attack at dawn. The Monkeys will distract them long enough for us to reach the orken base and destroy it. They shall DIE BY FIRE APPLES MUAHAHHAHAHHHAHA

Edit oh no sepp has intercepted my post. What has he done?

General Jackson
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 22:07 Edited at: 21st Jan 2010 22:07
Sorry, but your monkeys






Lol.

Sep: I was just thinking the same thing
The posting competition no. 2

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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 22:08
He has turned my own weapons of failure against me??!?!

My time is near, Dammm you Gj

General Jackson
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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 22:11 Edited at: 21st Jan 2010 22:13
Quote: "He has turned my own weapons of failure against me??!?!"

'Fraid so lad.
Just try and stop me now.

My orcs are amassing.
your time is drawing to a close.


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Posted: 21st Jan 2010 22:19
The defenses are prepared tred carefully i have placed mines across all intercept points.

You may think this was stupid, that i have trapped my own army! But behold i have fortified the Posting compettion as my new base, You wish to play me now?

Then go forth to the thread that mods forgot and we shall let fate decide.

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 03:06
Alt+F4=end of program

Anyway to Veron-I never said that I had the strength of 20 year old. I don't know how they do it in Australia, but in the US the APFT is scored on 2-mile run, sit-ups, and push-ups (there are variations i think) so what I meant was using the 17-21 year old chart I would get around that score. It's actually quite easy to do it if your fit and have good abs. The sit-ups are pretty much what put it up there. So unless you're stubborn then I never said "I am as strong as a 20 year old", although I think I could put up a decent fight if they weren't that strong or quick.

My goal is to NOT die, so if you're thinking I'm just going to die because I'm going to be a mediocre soldier than you just hurt my personal pride . I know that seems over-confident but goals in life aren't easy (especially mine if you haven't read the first 100 threads). You guys can laugh and insult me all you want but I'm still going through with this at this point. I recently went to my friends step fathers funeral (he was in the US Air Force) so I'm not stupid I know people can die in war, and it's stupid you think I'm just gonna die for my country without giving a thought to it. I think I'm gonna die for the world not just one big-headed country. I am an American, but recently (specificly since last election) I think this countrys goin down hill. It's not just the economy and stuff but it's morals. I personally think that since our President is trying to pass an abortion bill, AND a gay marriage bill (he was wasn't he?) then he doesn't deserve my respect or dedication.

Oh and when I think Veron said he thought I sounded like a 19-20 year old It made me feel good inside .


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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 03:36
Quote: "but in the US the APFT is scored on 2-mile run"

I was under the impression that it was a 3-mile run?


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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 04:21 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2010 04:23
We're not making fun of you, we're just trying to show you the facts. I know exactly how you feel: My parents were always over protective, and I always wanted to be a soldier to prove that I could make a difference. It was only later, once I saw the horrors of real life war and killing, that I realized why my parents were so over protective.

Just remember, I was once your age, I used to feel the same kind of feelings you feel. I'm not saying you shouldn't follow your dreams, I'm just saying you better be damn sure of what you really want to do. At one point in my youth, there was no question in my mind that I wanted to be in the army. Then I became a soldier, and I was quite dissapointed how different it was from what I thought it was going to be. But once you're in, you're trapped, there's no way out.

So it's not really a decision you can make on your own. If you're really serious about military life, go talk to as many war veterans as you can. Ask them what that kind of life is like, ask them how they felt about killing, how they felt about seeing their friends dying all around them, and pretty much anything else you can think of. And, most importantly, WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE MUCH OLDER. During adolescence, your brain is going through big changes, and it can drive you to make stupid and rash decisions.

If, by your 20s, you understand what the army is like and you still want to do it, I say go for it. By that time, you should be old enough to make your own decisions. But right now, your biology won't allow you to make a rational decision about something as life changing as the army.

Quote: " so I'm not stupid I know people can die in war"


It's easy to say that now, but it's very different when there's a corpse in a pool of blood at your feet.

Quote: "You guys can laugh and insult me all you want but I'm still going through with this at this point."


Again, we're not trying to insult you, we're just making sure you know what the military is really like, so that, in the future, you can make an informed decision about it.

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 04:32
The only 'fun' in this thread is joke and banter, not mockery and that was only to do with the '20 year-old' thing.

Herakles has offered fair advice.

Knowing death in war is different to experiencing death in war. Nobody knows what that is like until they experience it. This is perhaps what Herakles is trying to tell you.

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 04:35
Quote: "This is perhaps what Herakles is trying to tell you."


Yes, it is indeed.

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 05:22 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2010 05:23
Quote: "so if you're thinking I'm just going to die because I'm going to be a mediocre soldier than you just hurt my personal pride"

Yes, only mediocre soldiers die, the really good one's are able to dodge the bullets and IED's and survive. . In other words, what does being "mediocre" have to do with it? Veteran soldiers are just as easily killed by a bullet or hidden IED as a grunt is.

Quote: "I personally think that since our President is trying to pass an abortion bill, AND a gay marriage bill (he was wasn't he?) then he doesn't deserve my respect or dedication. "

Don't make political comments like that, that's how debates flame up and threads get locked because too many people don't know how to argue or debate without being offensive or being offended. (I'm pleasantly surprised no one's come along crying about this already.)

Quote: "Oh and when I think Veron said he thought I sounded like a 19-20 year old It made me feel good inside"

You type more properly than most people your age, I'll give you that.

Quote: "You guys can laugh and insult me all you want but I'm still going through with this at this point."

Our point is that you are still too young to really know what you want. You still have 4+ years before you actually get to even make that choice. Half of guys your age want to join the military or some special forces unit, it's not uncommon. I think the only way for you to see that we know what we are talking about is by getting older yourself, unfortunately.


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Quote: "Don't make political comments like that, that's how debates flame up and threads get locked because too many people don't know how to argue or debate without being offensive or being offended. (I'm pleasantly surprised no one's come along crying about this already.)"


I was about to but you said it nicely.

Quote: "Anyway to Veron-I never said that I had the strength of 20 year old. I don't know how they do it in Australia, but in the US the APFT is scored on 2-mile run, sit-ups, and push-ups"


I'll actually agree with this, i've seen both the US and Australian physical fitness tests, and they're piss weak, it's disgusting. Obviously when you're actually enlisted you get drilled way harder physically, but to actually get in in the first place it's way too easy. Then again, i've never been in a physical role in the field so I can't really comment much more on that.

Anyway, there's no real point arguing this. You can't apply for another 3 or 4 years anyway, and by then hopefully you've thought more about it. Until then, work hard at school.

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 14:48 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2010 14:49
Quote: "if you're thinking I'm just going to die because I'm going to be a mediocre soldier than you just hurt my personal pride"


Typical 13 year old's world view. You can't dodge bullets anymore than the next guy, no matter how good you are at COD4.

P.S: Join the army if you want! Just be realistic about it

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 15:52 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2010 15:53
Yes, you're told what to do by your superiors. Sometimes this will result in a very high chance of death. These days that is rare due to the politics of losing soldiers on the field, but it does still happen. There are plenty of scenarios in modern guerilla warfare where you will constantly be put in frustrating situations where you are mind numbingly bored doing the same old grind, but still constantly in danger of being killed, and there is nothing you can do about it. Example - the foot patrols our forces have to routinely do around the many hamlets of Afghanistan.

Back to what I said originally. My opinion is that the army is an awesome career, until you have to go to war. Then it's probably one of the worst.

But as Drew said, if you choose this path, good luck, and I hope it's fulfilling.

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General Jackson
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 16:07
Quote: "so if you're thinking I'm just going to die because I'm going to be a mediocre soldier than you just hurt my personal pride"

Yes, when you fail the Green Berets that'll hurt it more. (trust me, not many guys make it, and from what I understand they pick the green berets from Veterans, you know, them mediocre soldiers your talkin' bout, the ones that have been DYING for your freedom?)

Quote: "Typical 13 year old's world view. You can't dodge bullets anymore than the next guy, no matter how good you are at COD4.
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Yeah, I'm afraid to see how good you are at COD4, NO thirteen year old could think they were that tough without having played a lot of COD

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 18:22 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2010 18:37
Quote: "I personally think that since our President is trying to pass an abortion bill, AND a gay marriage bill (he was wasn't he?) then he doesn't deserve my respect or dedication.
"

You are a hateful bigot and I hope that if you do get into the army, you die. The world needs less of people like you.

Edit: I'm talking about the gay thing, obviously. I disagree with you about abortion too, but at leasts that's not racist, intolerant or downright stupid.

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General Jackson
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 18:32
Quote: "I personally think that since our President is trying to pass an abortion bill, AND a gay marriage bill (he was wasn't he?) then he doesn't deserve my respect or dedication"

I agree completely, well put.
if INH is gonna say what he said I'm not going to refrain from 2nd'ing what you said.

Amen and Amen to what you said.

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 18:33
Intolerance is ignorance

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 18:34 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2010 18:40
I would agree if he was older INH but he's just a stupid kid (and who gives a rats ass what he thinks, doesn't matter anyway ). If he will still think like that when he's 20 or older then yeah.

General Jackson
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 18:44
Quote: "Intolerance is ignorance"

I dont want to turn this political but I have my own thoughts about that.

If you want them then email me.

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 18:51 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2010 18:52
And So children here ends a once innocent thread now stained with intolerance and stupidity. Let us stop this happening again in future generations, send him to war and let him see what peace really was.

My grandad spoke fondly of his friends in WW 1 + 2, I said id serve when i could join. He then told me how each of them died, how his best friend was hit by mortar fire and torn open in front of him or how a bullet tore through anothers leg. He watched him die for over four days. The rest he watched die for over 20 years.

Killing a man is easy, a simple pull of the trigger, but watching the fear of that man as he slowly dies in front of you then realising it could easily had been you. You'll live with that for the rest of your life.

I take it you are a christian for the abortion sly? Think of what your god will say to you when all your sins are layed out. You cannot say virtue wasnt convient or that you had no choice.

If you live, you will still be dead. Have fun...

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Quote: "I dont want to turn this political but I have my own thoughts about that."


I don't think anyone cares even the slightest bit what you think. Anything that'd come from you would make as much sense as an aqua teen hunger force episode.

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 18:56 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2010 19:01
When member of this forum admitted he was gay a while back, I can't remember who or if they're still around. I don't think it's fair to leave intolerant comments involving homosexuality. Add that some people on this forum perhaps have gay friends and are thus sensitive to the topic, as I guess INH is and I'll admit I am too, I have a few gay and bisexual friends.

Also, no doubt you'll get poor responses from English people, as you already have, because England supports gay rights and gay marriage is legalized in the UK, though it is legalized as 'civil partnership'. So naturally, such comments are insulting and I was willing to bite my tongue due to the number of AUP breaking posts we have, but it was inevitable, somebody was going to be strongly offended.

I hope you all understand why this is a BAD area to go into on here?

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 18:58
Quote: "I take it you are a christian for the abortion sly? Think of what your god will say to you when all your sins are layed out. You cannot say virtue wasnt convient or that you had no choice."


Jesus Christ has washed away my sins.
Why? Because I beleive in him as my saviour, he saved ME from what all others will have to face, having their sins laid out before them.
Sigh.
Quote: "I don't think anyone cares even the slightest bit what you think. Anything that'd come from you would make as much sense as an aqua teen hunger force episode.
"

Thats because your a liberal ba...

Oh, wait, I need to bite my tongue and not take the bait.

Please email me, I really wanna continue this

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 19:00
I will email you once I've eaten my dinner.

General Jackson
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 19:02
Oh, o.k., I was actually talking to DavidR.
I dont think all liberals are Ba... but ones who will leave comments like Lucifer and David R did.

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I dont think all liberals are Ba... but ones who will leave comments like Lucifer and David R did.
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Refer to my previous statement

EDIT: Can we get this guy slapped/banned/something-ed? Calling people liberal b*s even when not a complete sentence is not exactly a politically neutral post

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 19:25 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2010 19:27
Wow monkey seems to be so obtuse that he cant see the irony in his own quote.

Grow up kid. You seem to be the poster boy for every preconception about the south right now and whats worse i know people from thier and they'd probably disown you.

Quote: "Jesus Christ has washed away my sins."


Idiot, jesus washed away mans sins once so everyone is born innocent, Everything you do from now is yours to burden and killing people in his name, isnt going to grant you redemption.

This is why people hate zealots, they stupid and so blind faithed they cant see the crap they spout.

NOT a hit at the religion just its fan-club.

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Posted: 22nd Jan 2010 19:25 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2010 19:29
Quote: "ou are a hateful bigot and I hope that if you do get into the army, you die. The world needs less of people like you.

Edit: I'm talking about the gay thing, obviously. I disagree with you about abortion too, but at leasts that's not racist, intolerant or downright stupid.
"

Oh God, here we go. People like you (and TP and GJ) are the reason we can't have political or religious discussions. It causes a chain reaction of "well, it's already started, might as well join in with why I think they're an idiot as well", like this:

Quote: "I agree completely, well put.
if INH is gonna say what he said I'm not going to refrain from 2nd'ing what you said.
"


Prepare for this thread to be locked.

Quote: "Grow up kid. You seem to be the poster boy for every preconception about the south right now and whats worse i know people from thier and they'd probably disown you."

Agreed, GJ fits perfectly the stereotype of a backcountry US southerner (which are usually not true at least near any decent sized city (like Dallas, which I'm from) where they have access to information outside of what Fox news and the other 500 people in their town that have the same ideas as them).


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