Quote: "Don't blame me for not wanting to pay 60 euro's for a game which stops being fun after 4 hours."
This is the reason why demos and review websites exist in the first place. Going back to clothing stores again, what if those jeans you bought get boring after a few days of wearing them. You won't then go and steal all of your clothes in future just in case it happens again. If you don't want to shell out £40 for a game that will last you four hours then don't. In my eyes that isn't a reason to steal anything.
Quote: "What iam talking about that since you didn't provide a demo he decided to download it to try it out."
I don't see this as a reason to steal anything either. I agree that a demo should be a no brainer to publicise your game. Just because you can't try before you buy doesn't mean you should just nick it instead. This is the reason I have a loveFilm subscription. I can try before I buy (on longer games) or just blast through a short game for under a tenner a month. Not a bad deal at all.
Quote: "Another problem is all the internet subscription for PC games. It makes it impossible to sell games second handed, games I would usually buy for 15 euro's second hand on a market now stay 50 euro, or disappear from the shelves."
Now this whole thing about stopping second hand selling is a little annoying, again, I can understand why they are doing it but there have been long stretches of my life where I've relied on the cheapness of second hand games to actually get any entertainment. Now that I've actually got a bit of money behind me I don't rely on second hand games so much, they are usually impulse buys of games that I missed or I might want to play.
Quote: "The ones with most DRM I can almost garantee you are those who are mostly pirated."
The games that are pirated the most are the games that people want the most. Maybe a small percentage of those are legitimate buyers who are having some trouble with the DRM but most of the people who pirate it can't afford it and are too impatient to wait. Or they are people who just flat out don't want to buy the game.
Quote: "Honestly, piracy isn't the cause of PC market dieing, the PC market dieing and so desperatly trying to add DRM is what causes piracy."
I didn't realise the PC market was dying, Indie games are massive and as far as I was aware, AAA titles are still being pushed out throughout the year with a decent sales rate.
Whichever way you look at it though, Piracy does damage the industry, whether it puts developers off building PC exclusives or whether it forces them to use extensive DRM measures that clearly aren't received well.
Quote: "Also, what I said wasn't meant insulting."
Good stuff, I don't want to turn a friendly debate into a pointless insult war... not yet anyway.
