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Geek Culture / Nintendo renames their Revolution system to, perhaps, the lamest name ever :-(

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Cian Rice
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Japanese people will probably find it easier to pronounce than Revolution though.

As for my opinion, at first I dispised it myself but now I'm kind of fond of it. Like my online publication it's name represents Nintendo's direction and beliefs. I do the same for what I call Waza, which is Japanese for technique, there is a certain technique to mastering everything and we look for a common trend in each of those things, and we see which ones use this technique to their advantage, etc.

Of course with Waza you can't make something like this:

Quote: "Cian:So, Hal you gonna play with your wii a ton when it's released?
Hal:Well, sure of course, I can imagine that I'll love playing with my wii. I'm sooo anticipating it's release!"


If you are mentally retarded and did not realize that we were using Wii like the British and Irish (Aka. Lord of all Human Fleshbags) then you now know.

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yeah i never thought how stupid of a name playstation is till now

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I wonder why they didn't do what they did years ago, with the Nintendo and the Famicom.

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Quote: "Hey BearCDP, how did I guess your location even before looking?"


I don't get it, Arizona? It's late. I must be missing something obvious.


I don't think revolution would have been too tough. "reborushion." Wii is so ambiguous though.


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For anyone wondering how Japanese people pronounce some English words or names I suggest viewing "Lost in Translation" by Sophia Coppola featuring Bill Murray and Scarlet Johansonn.
By the way you won't be sorry.It is a very good movie.

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It's the worst movie I ever saw. Two people just talking...

That and Solaris......UGH!!!

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What's wrong with Wii?

It's not like Xbox360 or PS3 is startlingly original or catchy.

In fact let's just rename these 2 next gen giants 'How freakin MUCH?'


I tend not to think too deeply when marketing is concearned, because Marketing is the devil after all. It's clear that the Wii is gonna pwn the asian market, heck everyone knows it, even the DS owns the PSP over there, happy days .

Worst thing is that because PS3 and X360 are western consoles, we often get left out of the nintendo fun sometimes. Hopefully they'll put in a lot of effort to make Wii a success over here and wipe some smirks from some greasy corporate faces.

The name means nothing, it's nintendo's new baby and M$ and Sony are crapping themselves because it could obliterate their market. I root for Nintendo because I like their games, I don't feel like I've just been financially-molested after buying a GC or DS game.

Personally I was keen to get a 360, I really don't care now with their £50 per game ideas, boycotting that stupidity for a start - when you can feed a family of 4 for a week on the price of one game then it is time for a reality check. Are console games all of a sudden twice as good to warrant this? - hell no.

PS3 will have games priced about the same, because they probably assume they can charge that too, so boycotting PS3 as well.

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Quote: "What's wrong with Wii?"


One word: urine!

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@ Van B
True true, I would agree with the prices that most Revolution, or now Wii games will be $60 USD. Which is way too much. I mean, being that you can get two decent games that had a price drop for $60. I mean, how does Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo plan on having us pay for such expensive games, when we have other things to worry about, like the ever increasing price in gas.

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Did you know in the USA, that within the next 20 years, gas will have most likely risen to $10 a gallon. I know, I almost cried also.

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psst... don't look now, but higher gas prices means everything will have higher prices.

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Hehehehehe

The US has paid peanuts for gas forever - trust me, you don't relish us brits!

It's like $2 per litre here, and the public transport sucks too - the UK is awesome.

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It's about 2$ per liter in Turkey but I heard that its 7 cents per liter in our neighbour Iran. So I wonder, why do they need nuclear power?
Back to our topic I believe DS is a really good alternative to PSP with its low price and touch screen. I really look forward to see what Nintendo can do to survive in the next-gen console wars. Handhelds and consoles are very different. Gameboy has never been the most powerful handheld but it owned the market. When it comes to consoles tech specs are more important. Some people may argue that the winner of this gen PS2 is inferior in many aspects to XBox and GC but constant supply of mainstream games and the confidence created by the Ps one's success was very important determinants in that battle.

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The PS2 is lacking in a lot of respects, did you know the Dreamcast has better texture handling and twice as much video memory?

That's why the the Dreamcast could do Shenmui while all the PS2 seems to get is dodgy textures . I do like Killzone, but other than that the PS2 has nothing I want, like my PS2 is currently awaiting a new DVD drive, I have it, but you know I can't justify the energy in fixing it .

I could have got a PSP instead, the amount I spent (like £200 altogether) could have gotten me a PSP and a game and a memory card too.

But I bought the DS for Animal Crossing, I would'nt have bothered if not for that game . Now Pikmin DS would make me even happier - why is it I get the most from the games that I'm ridiculed for playing!.

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I still hadn't seen a good use of the touch screen, as Nintendo bragged.

Should have got a PSP...I bought the DS while telling myself "It'll pick up" but lets face it - PSP has the coolest games. PSP got GTA, SOCOM, Battlefield 2, Daxter, Splinter Cell, Tomb Raider...and we got, Animal Crossing and a bunch of N64 games. Beh.


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Quote: "I still hadn't seen a good use of the touch screen"

Canvas curse? Metroid Hunters? Those would be nearly impossible without the touch screen (well, canvas curse would be), and they're both awesome games. In fact, the ds is said to have a far better line up than the psp... You should start buying the right ds games.

And the ds in owning the psp everywhere, in sales...

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AND Tomb Raider is soon to be released on the DS.


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Quote: "Should have got a PSP...I bought the DS while telling myself "It'll pick up" but lets face it - PSP has the coolest games. PSP got GTA, SOCOM, Battlefield 2, Daxter, Splinter Cell, Tomb Raider...and we got, Animal Crossing and a bunch of N64 games. Beh."


Well we don't have Battlefield 2, but we do have Syphon Filter Dark Mirror.

Just be like me, get both. I mean, Splinter Cell is okay, but not worth writing home about. I mean, it seems great, which it is, but isn't for casual gamers. I mean, the camera and multiplayer both suck.
Yeah, we do have GTA, but who cares? I mean, I certainly don't and I have both a PSP and DS.(Got DS Yesterday)
Also, I don't know about Tomb Raider, yet, but Daxter is, okay. It's fun and all and good thrills, but, it's just... I don't know. I mean, don't sweat not having a PSP. I mean, I am very grateful for mine, as well as very satisfied, but just wait for a price drop or buy the core system. I mean, the core is not bad. Since the $250 USD version has a cheap crappy case and 32 megabyte memory stick, and since both aren't worth $50, plus the headset, you should just by the core system.
However, when you do buy a PSP, buy:
Syphon Filter Dark Mirror-ONLY, if you play online, singleplayer is good, but online is the justification
Splinter Cell - Is great and all, but don't buy just for multiplayer. A few missions have exceptionally high replay value, *cough*prison level*cough* but I should have waited for a price drop
SOCOM - Evenly matched multiplayer with Syphon Filter, but the campaign isn't as great, wait for a price drop.
As for GTA and Daxter, yeah, I guess that's the disappointments of different console versions. I mean, do extra work, like me, and buy them when you can and still have extra money left over to save. I mean, games and consoles are worth it, especially the handhelds. Oh, and I remember your previous post of knocking PSP owners. What's with that?

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Quote: "Oh, and I remember your previous post of knocking PSP owners. What's with that?
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Back when the DS was full of hope, and the PSP was hoplessly expensive and game-lacking.

Quote: "Canvas curse? Metroid Hunters? Those would be nearly impossible without the touch screen"


Right. I wouldn't consider "obvious" uses of the touch screen to be "unique" uses of the touch screen. I mean yes, it's a cool add-on (and playing FPS is better with the touch screen) but other then that? I can do without it. (Or heck, maybe save the FPS games for the PC and play something else on your handheld?)



Quote: "In fact, the ds is said to have a far better line up than the psp... You should start buying the right ds games. "


Buying better games? I owned Mario DS/Kart, Metroid Hunters, Animal Crossing...dunno what else good there is?

Quote: " AND Tomb Raider is soon to be released on the DS."


Yeah. Featuring 1/4 of the PSPs graphical capability and some fancy touch-screen add-on, probably the ability to drag n' drop Lara's breasts around during loading screens.

Anyway, I think the fact that I have gone from DS to PSP shows I am not biased nor a Sony/Nintendo fanboy. I just decide which is the better system and what games appeal to me. I like retro games, but there's only so much oldies I can play & like...I want the latest stuff too.


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Quote: "probably the ability to drag n' drop Lara's breasts around during loading screens."

Now that alone is a system seller. What more do you want from Tomb Raider?
Has anyone else noticed how incredable over priced portable games are? DS games cost 40€ maybe less if you shop around and PSP games cost more then ps2 games. Can someone seriously justify GTA Liberty Stories costing more then San Andreas did when it came out?

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Yeah. Featuring 1/4 of the PSPs graphical capability and some fancy touch-screen add-on, probably the ability to drag n' drop Lara's breasts around during loading screens.

Compare screenies of Sonic Rush Boss Fights and Sonic Rivals. No competition there. For god's sake, I think Sonic Rivals may be PORTED TO THE DS! The visuals suck.


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Creative name, but I doubt it'll win over the X360 and PS3 people.

It's not really a matter of being a lame name, but a matter of people too embarrassed to admit they like something which others refer to as "gay".

DS people out-number the PSP people. But where the hell are they? Oh right, playing Animal Crossing in their room and not playing GTA on the subway.

(edit: Got Animal Crossing btw a few days ago. Nice distraction."


That was on the first page of this thread...

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Quote: "Oh, and I remember your previous post of knocking PSP owners. What's with that?""



Quote: "Back when the DS was full of hope, and the PSP was hoplessly expensive and game-lacking. "


So you're saying that in one week the PSP gets all of a sudden a massive lineup of cool games, and suddenly the DS sucks? WHOA!!! lol

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Some people are typical boat jumpers. They see something cool and popular and dive in, then when something else cool comes along they jump ship and go to the new cool thing. Kids today


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I'm shocked you say that. I was always a Playstation fan, way before Xbox and PSP. And yet, I bought a DS, and everyone hates those. Well most, but I really like them. DS's rock.

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I was referring to Megaton


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Oh lol, sorry about that...

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By the way you won't be sorry.It is a very good movie."


I'm sorry you misunderstood. I was using phonetic pronunciations in my suggestions for the Japanese pronunciation instead of the actual romanization. If you'd like I could write it out in katakana for you.
Frankly I'm rather offended that you automatically assume people from the United States are just a bunch of rednecks completely ignorant of the cultures of other countries(wasn't there just have a conversation similar to this in another thread, except about Australia?). I slip into a playful mood in my post and you assume I'm pulling an Amazing Racist with Japanese people. I'd check your own messages before criticizing mine, and I'll remember to write a thesis next time we chat.


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Bear, you're like OnePost except not annoying and with your facts straight. And for that I applaud you.

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Quote: "Compare screenies of Sonic Rush Boss Fights and Sonic Rivals. No competition there. For god's sake, I think Sonic Rivals may be PORTED TO THE DS! The visuals suck."

Omg, I just looked and your right... and it's an f***ing RACING game. What's up with that? Sonic racing on a 2d(essenicaly) track is a mini game... not it's own title. They could have done a 3d-2d sonic and made a great game, but I woudn't want to play a sonic racer.

Sonic Rush is pretty much the best sonic game ever. I dbout Rivals will upset that title.

Edit: The new sonic title for the ps3 and 360 however, looks to be absolutley amazing. Just have to wait for E3 for more info on it.

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Frankly I'm rather offended that you automatically assume people from the United States are just a bunch of rednecks completely ignorant of the cultures of other countries(wasn't there just have a conversation similar to this in another thread, except about Australia?). "

I apologize beardcp, although I believe I am misunderstood too. I didn't mean you when I mentioned that film as a source for pronounciation info.
My post was a joke and I tried to lighten the tone with a smiley.
Actually I like American people with all their prejudices and flaws. It shows that they are human just like the rest of us. I had realized that your post was written in a playful manner and I intended to continue this tone. Real sorry about that misunderstanding.
Thats always a problem with SMSs etc. You can not pass the tone of speach with written messages.
By the way I am not in a position to criticize other peoples linguistic knowledges. As you may have already understood English is not my native language.
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When buying the new Nintendo Wii a man in Florida forgot to pay at the Paydesk and went home. Fortunately for the shop, a customer recognised the man, and gave the shop his address. Later that day, one of the shopstaff was accompanied by the police to take the Nintendo back to the shop. The man, being somewhat taken aback complained.....

"I think they are taking the Pi*s!!!"


Lol!!! I just made that up!!!

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*looks for Megaton* I think someone was owned...

Nice pincho

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Wii just sounds plain stupid, end of story IMHO.

And Solaris was a good movie.


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I need a Wii. Why won't anyone listen.

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When it comes out I will be on my way to the shops singing "Stop the bus I want a wii, wii". Sorry it's bad in many ways I know


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"...A wii wii cup of tea"?

Crikey, it's been ages since I heard that.
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Quote: "I apologize beardcp, although I believe I am misunderstood too. I didn't mean you when I mentioned that film as a source for pronounciation info.
My post was a joke and I tried to lighten the tone with a smiley.
Actually I like American people with all their prejudices and flaws. It shows that they are human just like the rest of us. I had realized that your post was written in a playful manner and I intended to continue this tone. Real sorry about that misunderstanding.
Thats always a problem with SMSs etc. You can not pass the tone of speach with written messages.
By the way I am not in a position to criticize other peoples linguistic knowledges. As you may have already understood English is not my native language.
P.S. If you are still interested in my threads you can try Useless Mario info in geek culture."


I also apologize, for jumping the gun. I should have paid attention to your smiley. There are definitely many conflicts that arise online from the ambiguity of text communication. Glad to be pals.

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Much appreciated dude.

On topic...
I think I actually like the name.
http://wiiwiihaha.ytmnd.com/


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Rofl, I loved that show as a kid. But in all honesty, I think that wii'l all be better off knowing that wii'l all have fun playing Wii once they show it at E thrwii.

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Quote: "wii'l all be better off knowing that wii'l all have fun playing Wii once they show it at E thrwii."


I was told as a child that you should never play with your wii.

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As dumb as the name sounds... Its catching on... Can't wait to get my hands on my very own Wii.

Quote: ""Once Wii is released to the public, it'll be all over the place"
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^^^ good one

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They wanted to get attention, and they did. What a great name idea.


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But it doesn't make you buy it. Just talk about it.

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Doesn't really matter...it stirs interest and there's no such thing as bad publicity.


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I'm buying one not for the name (which would be stupid wether or not it was named Wii), but for the fact that its Nintendo, and has excellent games, it has a sweet new controller that will make for a unique gaming experience (and a gamecube style controller, for classic gaming), and it looks so much cooler than the XBox and PS3.

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Quote: "and it looks so much cooler than the XBox and PS3."

I agree Agent Dink but you won't be looking at the console while you're playing. You'll be looking at the TV screen and upto now tech specs tells us that Wii is not the winner in this aspect.
Quote: "Doesn't really matter...it stirs interest and there's no such thing as bad publicity."
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Yeah, I agree with that, but it looks so much nicer in your bedroom or living room.

Quote: "You'll be looking at the TV screen and upto now tech specs tells us that Wii is not the winner in this aspect. "


I'm aware of this, but it doesn't much matter to me. My computer is my main gaming system. Alot of the best titles on Xbox are on PC also, and I really don't get into PlayStation's games, so that leaves the Nintendo for me being the optimal choice. I am looking forward to Metroid Prime 3 the most.

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I'm exited about the wii, as it's the first consol I've deemed really worth getting, and will allow me to play all the great games I've wanted to play from the past, as well as all the amazing possibilities the controller provides.
I AM curious to how the graphics look though, as well as how the games actually play. How enjoyable a game is to look at IS important... I think there's a difference between 'good' graphics and high end graphics, but I’d still like to see how big the graphical gap is between the 360 and the Wii…

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Well, the GameCube managed to get off with more cutesy graphics which compared in smoothness to the 10000k poly models that xbox had. In the end, not many people will notice or care about how many wrinkles a certain character has on his face, though the realism of it draws a bit to the atmosphere. It doesn't, however, make a game really any better, so I think that its eventually going to be placed on the lineup and controllability of the systems.

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I really liked the smoothyness on Gamecube games. I loved it even more on Psychonauts, that game would have been perfect for Gamecube. The problem I noticed with a lot of Xbox games was the camera was jerky when doing pan shots, never saw anything like that with the Gamecube.


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I also think developers for xBox thought that since it was hyped up to be the best in graphics, and it was, they decided to make games that required SO much more than the xBox and fit it into that, rather than go simple and do GameCube style stuff. An example is Morrowind for xBox. As fun as Morrowind is, that game is the kind of game where you need to be immersed and see and feel everything perfectly and smoothly, and on the xBox, it didn't accomplish that whatsoever. I think that San Andreas worked good on it though, but even still, that had cutsier graphics than Morrowind and others like it did. Therefore, it had a smoother feel, which is what I really like in video games. You wouldn't play a PC game on 1600x1200 if you only got 9 FPS, would you? Naturally, the lessening of the graphics would make things smoother, and therefore have a more pleasant experience.

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