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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:03 Edited at: 26th Jul 2006 21:43
For people who don't know alot about the PS3 here are 5 good reasons to buy it:
-An estimated 2x better graphics than the xbox 360 and an estimated 16x better graphics than the Wii.
-All controllers are wireless.
-Up to four contollers(FINALLY!).
-It has a Blu-ray player that usually costs $1000 alone.
-It has a 20gb and a 60gb version.

Specs:

-CPU
3.2 GHz Cell processor: one PowerPC-based "Power Processing Element" and seven 3.2 GHz Synergistic Processing Elements (SPEs). The PPE has a 512 KB L2 cache and one VMX (AltiVec) vector unit. Each of the eight SPEs is a RISC processor with 128-bit 128 SIMD GPRs and superscalar functions. Each SPE has 256 KB of L1 cache/software-addressable 4.8 GHz SRAM, called the "Local Store". Sony has sent out a number of development kits with the Cell chip clocked at 2.8 Ghz. There are now rumours circulating that the Cell chip will remain at 2.8 Ghz, contrary to the initial frequency of 3.2 Ghz which Sony first announced.

Only seven SPEs are active; the eighth is redundant, to improve yield. If one of the eight has a manufacturing defect, it is disabled without rendering the entire unit defective. Additionally, one of the seven active SPEs is reserved for use by the system's OS, leaving six SPEs directly available to applications.
-GPU
Custom RSX or "Reality Synthesizer" design co-developed by NVIDIA and Sony:

* Based on NVIDIA NV47 architecture
* Clocked at 550 MHz
* 128-bit DDR memory interface
* 211.2 GFLOPS programmable (384 FLOPS per clock)
* 1.8 TFLOPS
* Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
* 136 shader operations per clock
* 74.8 billion shader operations per second (100 billion with CPU)
* 24 2D texture lookups per clock
* 90 billion Dot Product operations per second with CPU
* 1.1 billion vertices per second
* 128-bit pixel precision offers rendering of scenes with High dynamic range rendering
* Full high definition output (up to and including 1080p)
-Memory
Total 512 MB, split into:

* 256 MB Rambus XDR DRAM clocked at CPU die speed (3.2 GHz)
* 256 MB GDDR3 VRAM clocked at 700 MHz
-Bandwidth
* 204.8 GB/s Cell Element Interconnect Bus (Theoretical peak performance)
* Cell FlexIO Bus: 35 GB/s outbound, 25 GB/s inbound (7 outbound and 5 inbound 1Byte wide channels operating at 5 GHz) (effective bandwidth typically 50-80% of total)
* 51.2 GB/s SPE to local store
* Experimental Sustained bandwidth for some SPE-to-SPE DMA transfers - 78 to 197 GB/s.
* 25.6 GB/s to Main Ram XDR DRAM: 64 bits × 3.2 GHz / 8 bits to a byte
* 22.4 GB/s to GDDR3 VRAM: 128 bits × 700 MHz × 2 accesses per clock cycle (one per edge) / 8 bits to a byte
* RSX 20 GB/s (write), 15 GB/s (read)
* System Bus (separate from XIO controller) 2.5 GB/s write and 2.5 GB/s read
-Audio/Video output
Multiple AV outputs

* Composite
* S-Video
* Component video (output up to and including 1080p)
* HDMI 1.3 port (Digital video output; 60 GB model only)
-Sound
* S/PDIF optical output for digital audio up to 7.1 sound
* Dolby TrueHD[38] (Blu-Ray movies only[citation needed]; compatible sound equipment required[citation needed])
* DTS-HD
* LPCM (DSP functionality handled by the Cell processor)
-Storage
* Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-R, BD-RE. 2x (9.0 MB/s)
* DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW. 8x (11.0 MB/s max)
* CD: PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW. 24x (3.5 MB/s max)
* SACD: SACD Hybrid (CD layer) SACD HD. 2x
* Hard Drive: Pre-Installed 20 GB / 60 GB (depending on package), 2.5", detachable/upgradeable, with Linux pre-installed.
-Flash Memory Devices
(60 GB model only)

* Memory Stick
* CompactFlash
* SD/MMC
-Communications
* One Gigabit At Sony's 2006 Electronic Entertainment Expo press conference, a new PlayStation 3 controller design was revealed. The design was superficially very similar to a wireless version of the DualShock 2 controller, as opposed to the wireless "boomerang" prototype design showcased a year earlier. The "boomerang" design was abandoned overall because of poor reaction from the public, so Sony decided to continue to go with the style that worked for them in the past.[citation needed]



* USB 2.0 (x4)
* Bluetooth 2.0
* Wi-Fi (60 GB model only)
o IEEE 802.11b/g

Other things:

-Controller

Some minor refinements have also been made to the controller. In place of the "Analog" button and light found on previous PlayStation controllers, a button with the PlayStation logo has been added to the center of the controller face. Some of the buttons have been raised from their previous versions, to enhance their pressure-sensitive analogue functionality. In particular, the L2 and R2 shoulder buttons have been redesigned to allow for a much deeper depression range, making them more trigger like. The analogue sticks also have a wider range of motion and finer analogue sensitivity—at 10-bit accuracy, an improvement upon the 8-bit accuracy of the previous models. Ethernet PortThe PlayStation 3 controller features a USB mini-B connector terminal at the top of the controller for charging the internal battery through USB, and also for wired play. There are four numbered LED indicators, to identify and distinguish multiple connected wireless controllers.
The final PlayStation 3 controller. Its design is nearly identical to that of the DualShock.
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The final PlayStation 3 controller. Its design is nearly identical to that of the DualShock.

In addition to the basic design, the other major feature revealed at the press conference was the ability to sense both rotational orientation and translational acceleration. Although it is not yet known how many games will use this feature, games that do (such as Warhawk) will come with an option to turn motion sensing off. It has been stated by Tetsuya Nomura that at least one incarnation of Final Fantasy XIII will make use of the motion sensitive controller.

Sony has stated that because of the motion sensors, the rumble capability of the previous controllers will not be included, reasoning that the vibration interferes with motion-sensing. Haptics developer Immersion Corporation (which successfully sued Sony)expressed skepticism of Sony's rationale, and has since introduced tilt and motion-sensing which filters out vibration in software.

-Physical characteristics
Weight

* 5 kg (approx.)
* (11 lbs.) (approx.)

Dimensions

* 9.8 cm × 32.5 cm × 27.4 cm (approx.)
* (3.9 in. × 12.8 in. × 10.8 in.) (approx.)

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If you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:12
all i have to say..

..six...hundred...dollars.
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lol, i know but it's worth it.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:13
the ps3 just isnt quite there, i can see your going to get the ps3 but sony have forgotten the main purpose of consoles GAMING and that is what the Wii offers and the Xbox360 offers a mix besides the ps3 has the power to do it but who could honestly have a team to use all that hardware, the Wii will do for the mainstream gamers and the 360 will be good for HD gamers but the ps3 seems a bit over powered for what it needs to do, but also the ps3 has no rumble, what is the point of stopping rumble, you cant say the ps3 hasnt got enough power so what is it?

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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:14
Ill stick with my PC

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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:17
Enough about the PS3 already.


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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:19
in a few years when graphics are better only PS3 will be able to run it without buying a new system.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:29 Edited at: 26th Jul 2006 21:30
Yer yer the ps3 great, more powerful than any other console blah blah. Boring.

They can say all they want about the console and how great it will be. I just want to play great games, especially for the price they will charge for games... £50-£60 ouch.

I havent seen any movies or screenies or demos of spectacular games for the ps3 that are any better than the ones out for the new xbox or pc, if you find some that are not prerendered show me . So its just a meh vote for me, none of those reasons that you've stated appeals that much to me.

Show me a large selection of brilliant games (not ps2) then I'll buy one
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:34
It doesn't have 7 controllers anymore, it only has 4 now - look at the new controller. I only see 4 controller lights, not 7.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:40
maybe your right. change above

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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:40
Quote: "Enough about the PS3 already."

But it's okay if XBox and Wii fans blabber on and on about their beloved consoles I Sony

Also, it's not like it'll stay $600 forever. I have bets going already that the price will drop considerably in six months or less... the same way the PS2's price dropped. It's a significantly more powerful console than the others... naturally it'll cost more.

A side note: Has anyone seen that a bunch of new DVD's coming out are going to be available on Blu-Ray? What's the point... how many people have a blu-ray player right now? Why buy a movie that you can't watch until the PS3 comes out seems like a bad marketing strategy to me lol


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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:45 Edited at: 26th Jul 2006 21:47
Quote: "Also, it's not like it'll stay $600 forever. I have bets going already that the price will drop considerably in six months or less... the same way the PS2's price dropped. It's a significantly more powerful console than the others... naturally it'll cost more.
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the price wont go down for about 1 1/2 yrs.
the reason is that sony will lose money the first year because they are underpricing the system for what it's worth. Sony must wait until the hardware costs less to start pricing it down.
So the price probably wont drop for a long while.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 21:53
Wanna put money on it I'm planning on becoming a very rich man six months after the PS3's release Of course they're underpricing it. Do you know how much Microsoft is losing on every 360 sale? A lot. Sony is highly competitive at everything they do, and they understand that selling the console at a loss for a while will eventually lead to higher demand, which will lead to a need to mass-produce more units, which will lead to lower production costs. It's simple supply chain economics and Sony has a history of releasing products at unreasonably high prices, then dropping those prices 3-6 months later. They lost a ton of money when the PS2 was released, only to see it later become the most successful console in history, and even then they hardly turned a profit. Consoles are an expensive industry to get involved in, expensive enough that it's somewhat surprising that the console industry hasn't ceded yet. But watch and you'll see... within 6 months time, the price will drop, the same as every other Sony product. From the original Playstation to the Vaio to the Dream Theater systems, Sony loves to release with huge costs and then drop those costs considerably a few months later. Other companies do it as well but I think Sony probably does it the most (I might be wrong, maybe some other company does, idk). Anyway... paypal bets, name the odds


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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 22:00 Edited at: 26th Jul 2006 22:06
The Blu-Ray Mistake

In short, hidef tellies will be the limiting factor for blu-ray even more than a blu-ray player.

Quote: "According to a report by Kagan Research on the penetration rate of HDTV sets in the United States, only around 10% of households had HD televisions at the beginning of 2005.

By the end of the decade, Leichtman Research Group predicts that number will be only 55%."


End of the decade - 55%. Only 55% by the year 2009/2010. And at the moment, there's only about 10% with it. So nine out of ten people right now can't use a blu-ray player the way it was meant to be used. They'd need to shell out another $1000 to fully utilise it.

So, $600 for the machine, $1000 for a 'proper' telly, and $50-$60 a game.

And then there's the fact that the difference between VHS and DVD was pretty huge with extra features, menus and other interactive aspects (as well as improved images). Oh - and DVD could work on the same tellies that almost every single American has in their home and didn't require them to buy a brand spanking new one.

Sure - telly prices will go down, and gamers are generally 'early adopters' of new technology. But even so - that's a very narrow market to be aiming for, imo.

Oh and while we're at it:
Quote: "When Sony originally introduced the $499 version of the PS3 at E3 2006, they had pulled the HDMI support.

The HDMI port is used to export high definition video and audio from the system, and many critics have pointed out that the Blu-ray drive seems useless without it. "


So the $499 version, won't even be able to SHOW the blue-ray quality that it's trying to tout. Not unless, somewhere down the line, you shell out for some adaptor or something. Nice.

My final word/opinion on the blu-ray inclusion in the PS3 is that it does not add any worth to the machine to me. As such, I disregard it in any comparisons between machines, making the PS3 very overpriced in my eyes.


-An estimated 2x better graphics than the xbox 360 and an estimated 16x better graphics than the Wii.
----- I do not care too much about raw graphical power. My games must be fun, not photorealistic. That's why I play indi games, like the ones made here. I admit I am unusual in this, and that graphics mean a lot to the average punter.
-All controllers are wireless.
----- Uh huh? So are the controllers of it's nearest competitors. Not a valid selling point.
-Up to four contollers(FINALLY!).
----- I realise you originally thought this was more than four, but it's not. The other consoles can equal it. Not a valid selling point.
-It has a Blu-ray player that usually costs $1000 alone.
----- See above. Not a valid selling point to me.
-It has a 20gb and a 60gb version.
----- And I as a gamer care how? The available memory means nothing until I see how developers choose to use it. *shrugs* Sorry, but I don't care.

You're keen, I give you that. But while I won't say the PS3 is any worse than any other console - it's not (according to your bullet points) any better IN MY OPINION.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 22:18
that's too bad for people without HD tv's

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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 22:22 Edited at: 26th Jul 2006 22:23
Quote: "End of the decade - 55%"
Hmmm. Dunno. In the UK we have totally taken to the HD TV. Country took bloody ages to get HD going, sure, but now everything coming out seems to be HD. Heard something the other day saying 3/4's of the TVs selling in the UK were now HD. And nobody gave a monkeys about 6 months ago. Good olde world cup.

Although I'm damn sure a lot of people want HD without knowing what it really means. There was a story a while back on one of the gadget blogs that was about this holywood producer type that had his house decked out in HD TVs. Literally several big screen HD TVs in every room. He banged on about the amazing quality of HD at all of his showbiz parties until someone pointed out that all his sources were totally SD (not even an upscaler) and not HD. Arf.

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I think you're right, Dazzag - there's a lot of HD confusion in the uk. Unfortunately, that article that I linked in the other post didn't say a thing about the UK - it was all the US. *shrugs* Hard to know how much of a difference us Brits will make to the console wars though.

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Alot of people have HD's ,I can name about 30 people on my block with HD's.

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What about the Wii btw, is it going to use high definition?

I dunno. Shy of people on TGC (I think me and The End is Near are apprently the only people planning on getting it lol), I don't know anyone who isn't planning on buying a PS3, everyone one in my family and my group of friends is planning on getting one, and most are planning on getting a Wii as well.

About the hard drive space Tinkergirl... I care. I have a 160 GB HD, and only about 30 GB of free disk space left. When you take into account the game development stuff that's taking up a lot of that space, I'm still using about 40-50 GB on games alone. I'm happy it has a huge hard drive and I wish it had a bigger one. You can never have too much HD space


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The Wii is not Hi-def. This has been a contentious point in the Wii/RestoftheWorld discussions.

I've often used a lot of HD space myself on my PC, but I've never thought - oh darn, I need another memory card, for my PS2 (except when I got FF8 - I think that was the one that used a whole memory card!!) so like I said - I'll have to see how developers use it. *shrugs*

As for my neck of the woods (admittedly, a very strange neck it is too - mostly developers) most people if they're getting a console are getting a Wii. Many already have a 360. Unfortunately, the PS3 is considered an unfortunate joke. I would like Sony to convince us, but they've not done so far.

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but dont forget not everybody comes from your area, a pay of £40k+ might be usual in that area, i am the only person in my whole school with a HD TV (there are about 800 familys there)

as the article pointed out nintendo did dodge this and are focusing on gaming and of course they announced virtual console will allow the old games and indi games on it, so we dont need to have graphics that rival the real world we just need entertainment, i am not a fanboy of any kind but i do strongly disagree with sonys strategy, the ps1 and ps2 were weak on graphics when it mattered but now the graphics are so good we dont need graphics 2x better then the xbox360s it needs games better then the rivals to sell well. the public seems to be thinking this as nintendos share prices went up 6 1/2% after e3 and sonys down by 7%

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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 23:24 Edited at: 26th Jul 2006 23:25
I agree, I think sony is embracing "The HD era" too much and not embracing gameplay...
I'm still getting one.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2006 23:37
Good for you - I really hope you enjoy it, you're obviously looking forward to it a great deal In fact, it'd be great for gamers, if all three machines produced exceptional titles.

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ya for my first game for it i'm thinking call of duty 3.
thx Tinker

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Quote: "I don't know anyone who isn't planning on buying a PS3"


Funny, I personally work with dozens of other gamers and people in the industry, and so far only one of them is buying a PS3 for FF.

Quote: "ya for my first game for it i'm thinking call of duty 3."


Which is coming out for Xbox 360 as well. I highly doubt the gameplay will be better on a PS3 with this one.


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but i bet better graphics for the ps3

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Will xbox 360 have FF or ratchet&clank? didn't think so.

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The Wii is getting Call of Duty 3 - that is going to be downright 1337!


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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ya, there going to use the wiimote to give commands and such.

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Quote: "Will xbox 360 have FF or ratchet&clank? didn't think so."


Final Fantasy can only be so entertaining. Same with Ratchet and Clank. There are other alternatives for other consoles that can provide the same amount of entertainment, and, compared to the PS3's title price, cheaper too.

The same thing can be said about graphics too. Games are meant to be entertaining, not contests of shimmer and eye candy. Though, I have to admit, a lot of gamers are willing to buy games from flashy effects alone, but most aren't willing to shell out $600 for said graphics.

I won't be buying a PS3, Final Fantasy or otherwise. I'm going to stick with the Wii and enjoy playing my games without paying an arm and a leg for the privledge.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 04:09
Not worth 600$ yet, maybe when it goes down, because blue ray might just fall flat on its face anyways.

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Aparantly Sony have lied about the specs of the PS3. They are no where near complete to what the said they have done.

This is only what i have heard though.

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Quote: "but i bet better graphics for the ps3"


Umm, no. The graphics are close enough to be called exactly the same on the two systems. Fact is, I doubt you're going to see much of a difference in graphics between the two systems in either of their lifetimes.

99 percent of those videos you've probably seen that were "gameplay" were prerendered, and they're now about half as good looking.

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when was your info made? was it a xbox website?
if so izzy, your probably not getting the facts straight.
goto a neutral website like wikipedia.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 05:30 Edited at: 27th Jul 2006 05:30
The End, wikipedia is anything but neutral

Anyways, from what I've read, it sounds like you're basing 50% of your info on things your friends have told you and things you just generally expect PS3 to have, because you love it.

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Quote: "when was your info made? was it a xbox website?
if so izzy, your probably not getting the facts straight.
goto a neutral website like wikipedia."


http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/717/717769p1.html

For one, the screens are from 360, PS3 versions... Which means they basically look the same. I saw a website that had a comparison of all three, and I couldn't tell the difference between the 360 and PS3 versions but I can't find it anymore.

And about the prerendered... Look around and you'll find real screenshots of games vs. what they showed to be "gameplay" and then tell me you don't see the difference.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 06:11
Quote: "The same thing can be said about graphics too. Games are meant to be entertaining, not contests of shimmer and eye candy. Though, I have to admit, a lot of gamers are willing to buy games from flashy effects alone, but most aren't willing to shell out $600 for said graphics."

Though, most games comming out these days have very good graphics. If oblivion had crappy cartoon graphics, less people would buy it, but people still would for the gameplay. My point is most people these days really want games for graphics, and maybe gameplay (hopefully).


Mostly play halo 2, and a few other games..
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I just hope my dear ps3 doesn't die... o well, you know sony, they'll pull through as usual!

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Way too expensive for me. I really dont care too much about HDTV anyways (except for the fact that the signal is digital, much better reception for us antenna-users). It's just not worth the price!

And yes, the PS3 will have better graphics capabilities than Xbox360 or Wii, but its all up to the developers for whether they utilise it or not.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 06:30
Isony so much it's not even funny.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 06:43
Wtf?


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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 06:49
Quote: "Will xbox 360 have FF or ratchet&clank? didn't think so.
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Rofl. You want to start comparing franchises? Don't get me started.

It's not about the franchise, but the games. And if your ONLY point with playing video games is to stare at the nice CG (with the 25 minute unskippable cutscene), then rent Advent Children or Toy Story 2 and watch that for heaven's sake


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Isony for putting on the PS3

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 06:51
Dude ratchet & clank rocks not because of graphics but the non-stop action gameplay it delivers!

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 06:57
I seriously doubt 2x better graphics there are big bottle necks in bandwidth with the ps3 plus the xbox360 gfx card is already proven to be unified and better.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 07:54
The only thing that the ps3 has over anything is the fact that it can render in larger formats than everyting else, but unless you own a gigantic tv than who cares, itll look the same, maybe even worse on the ps3 side.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 07:58
Btw, i'm pretty sure, not positive though that Final fantasy is not exclusive to Playstation 3 or Sony for that matter.. I think within the contract they have to develop 2 more final fantasy games for the PS3 before they can start creating final fantasy titles for other systems if they so choose.

Beyond that, just to let you know 'The End is Near', the creator of the Final Fantasy series now has his own studio, and has for awhile called Mistwalker Studio's.. If you take a look they are already designing 3 games for the Xbox 360, two of which have been announced, 'Lost Odyssey' and 'Blue Dragon'. The third has yet to been announced but has been confirmed that they're creating it.

Sure Sony has a couple of titles they carry exclusively to themselves such as Ratchet and Clank, Socom etc.. But realisticaly the Playstation's havent really had any Killer App's except GTA which is non-exclusive to the console.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 08:49 Edited at: 27th Jul 2006 08:49
hey i'm all for halo, dot but i think one thing that attracts me is that long list of compatible hardware and since there's linux and i know a fair amount of c++ i think designing my own games for a console would be very cool.

Quote: "Because we have plans for having Linux on board [the PS3], we also recognize Linux programming activities… Other than game studios tied to official developer licenses, we'd like to see various individuals participate in content creation for the PS3."

—Izumi Kawanishi on the presence of the Linux in the PS3.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 09:00
I think computer games kick all consoles @$$!

Read my profile to learn about all my wierd fanaticacies...

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Posted: 27th Jul 2006 09:05 Edited at: 27th Jul 2006 09:05
really? i like the consoloes because the controls are nicer and they always perform the same witch is a big up for developers.

BTW 50 POSTS IN 1 DAY !?!

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