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The Zoq2
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Posted: 14th Feb 2015 16:39
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Noo, I forgot to post when I saw I would get points. I guess i'll have to settle for page then

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Yodaman Jer
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I totally understand why it was locked. Honestly I don't know why it didn't get locked in the first place, as it was a touchy subject to begin with.

And that "debate" was about to become pretty explosive, I think.

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Explosive? Are we not allowed to discuss things on this forum unless everyone agrees with a given viewpoint?
I guess talking about arrays is out the window as Valentine doesn't think they're necessary!
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Two things.

One. Topics/Threads can and will be locked, if it is deemed that the content is innappropriate and/or the thread is bound for a flamewar (unless one person is to blame, then appropriate action can and will be taken.

Two. Bringing up another user to make some sort of point, isn't a good idea. It promotes possible anymosity, and contributes to future moderation of parties involved.

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Posted: 14th Feb 2015 23:33 Edited at: 14th Feb 2015 23:50
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Quote: "Regardless, our reasons for locking threads are not up for debate."
Aye, I dislike how just about every single mod has this viewpoint. Mod decisions should be up for civilized debate, that the mods may not accrue excessive power over the forums. The mods do have power, of course, but I believe that their decisions should be heavily influenced by the opinions of those who are affected by their decisions ('those' being the forum as a whole, not individuals per se). Civilly debating mod decisions is a great way for mods to get feedback on their decisions, and for the community to work out things that have happened. That whole 'civilly' word is the only practical problem with my great philosophies. And it's totally not just you Clonkex, I have heard every mod say it. I just don't agree with the mindset, that's all.

Quote: "I'm explaining them in this case because I want you to understand our reasons for locking it; I believe the forum will be a better place if everyone understands the reasons certain threads are locked"
I am super happy to hear a mod say such things as this. Some mods don't like discussing or even explaining their actions, which is a little bit detrimental in my opinion.

Quote: "Explosive? Are we not allowed to discuss things on this forum unless everyone agrees with a given viewpoint?"
I don't think that's what people are saying. However, I do see exactly where you are coming from.

As the Vice and Acting and Yet Powerless President of the Apollo Forums (VAYPPAF), I propose that we civilly work out a plan, generally agreed on by most people here including the mods, that will try and prevent these debates from occurring so often. This is an excellent forum made of great people. But considering how small this forum is, there are a lot of politics. It's rather destructive to the otherwise excellent forum environment. A plan that generally keeps things on topic, prevents debates from overheating, adds transparency to moderator actions, and creates freedom of discussion regarding moderator actions could do great things.

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Quote: "It promotes possible anymosity"
This is a great point. A great way to reduce the heating of debates would be to prevent anymosity, which seems present in many of the debates that occur here.

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For a microphone that I wish to use for my project, an excellent one for the money seems to be the Sony ECMCS3. I hear that it needs an external power source in order to operate similar to many higher quality microphones. Devices such a smartphones and laptops aren't likely to provide the necessary power supply. I know of some audio recorders that would provide the needed power, but they are like 60 dollars at minimum. Do I really need a 60+ dollar device to power a 10 dollar microphone, or is there a better way?

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Posted: 15th Feb 2015 00:02
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The Xmas thread is still on the front page.

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Posted: 15th Feb 2015 00:03
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Quote: "The Xmas thread is still on the front page."
Lol, I just noticed that yesterday too, myself.

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Posted: 15th Feb 2015 02:35 Edited at: 15th Feb 2015 02:39
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Quote: "Better to recycle an existing thread than make a new one, no?"


No lol.

Quote: "Explosive? Are we not allowed to discuss things on this forum unless everyone agrees with a given viewpoint?"


No no, you're totally 100% allowed to discuss things not everyone agrees on (I mean, it'd be a pretty boring discussion in everyone had exactly the same thoughts on it, right? ) - as long as they comply with points 3.7 to 3.10 of the AUP, of course. The issue is when the civil/healthy debate becomes (or is about to become) a flamewar (bickering and personal attacks). That's when a thread will be locked.

Quote: "Aye, I dislike how just about every single mod has this viewpoint."


As a relatively new mod, I would agree that this viewpoint is not necessarily helpful, but I believe it stems from the two things which make it necessary:

1) This forum used to be a great deal bigger (and incidentally, looks like it may be making a return with GameGuru's release) and when you have that many people to watch over, the chances of someone who doesn't like the moderator's actions starting a thread to debate the actions drastically increases. It becomes necessary to be able to immediately lock the thread and state firmly that moderator decisions are not up for debate, simply because...
2) ...debates as to whether a moderator's actions were "correct" or not rarely end well.

Basically, our job here is to promote kind and courteous behaviour among forumites, keep the peace and generally help people out. We really don't like having to slap people or lock threads (well, that's not entirely true - banning spambots trying to advertise cheap flowers is always fun ) and would much rather everyone just got along with each other and had fun. Sometimes, however, things start to get out of hand and we have to lock a thread or slap someone. Very often, the decision a mod has to make is not clear-cut and easy, and can be quite stressful. When people start publicly arguing about the decision, it just makes our jobs that much more difficult. As I mentioned in point 2) above, these debates/arguments virtually always end with everyone involved becoming upset and angry. It's for these reasons that we need to be able to stop these debates from occurring in the first place, and why we need that rule (i.e. mods' decisions are final). It's a compromise to the idea of freedom of speech that is unfortunately necessary because of the world we live in.

On the other hand, while I can't speak for the other mods, anyone is absolutely welcome to PM me to discuss one of my decisions I'm always happy to explain my reasons, but be aware that I see no situation where I would be willing to reverse my decision.

Quote: "That whole 'civilly' word is the only practical problem with my great philosophies."


Yes indeed

Quote: "I am super happy to hear a mod say such things as this. Some mods don't like discussing or even explaining their actions, which is a little bit detrimental in my opinion."


Haha yeah, that's just my personality

Quote: "But considering how small this forum is, there are a lot of politics."


+1 there are indeed!

Quote: "VAYPPAF"


lol

Quote: "I propose that we civilly work out a plan, generally agreed on by most people here including the mods, that will try and prevent these debates from occurring so often."


To which debates are you referring? Healthy debates about random stuff that turn into flamewars, or debates about mods' decisions? For the former, we can start by letting others state their opinions without debating them, as well as letting others be wrong if they so desire (something Mum taught me - if someone insists they're right even though you've told them they're wrong, let it be) - these are things you already do very well, DJD64, but I need lots of practice. For the latter... they will still be disallowed, me thinks. One step at a time, eh?

Quote: "I know of some audio recorders that would provide the needed power, but they are like 60 dollars at minimum. Do I really need a 60+ dollar device to power a 10 dollar microphone, or is there a better way?"


I researched this a bit, but unfortunately was unable to determine an answer. I watched the review on the Amazon page and that mic definitely sound good, but I don't know what kind of recorder you'd need to make use of it.


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Posted: 15th Feb 2015 03:32 Edited at: 15th Feb 2015 03:34
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Alright Clonkex, you're just offending me now. I HATE THIS FORUMMMMMMMMMMMM EVERYONE ON IT IS STUPIDD

Just kidding. Everything you said was fine, I just had to put that part there to be myself.

The two points you made were pretty good.
Quote: "debates as to whether a moderator's actions were "correct" or not rarely end well"
This is true.

Quote: "banning spambots trying to advertise cheap flowers is always fun"
Lol, I bet that is entertaining.

Quote: "To which debates are you referring?"
Ah silly me, I very much meant to specify heated debates. I was sort of contradicting myself there, eh? Sorry for the confusion. Yes, I believe that regular debates are perfectly fine; they're a natural part of human discussion. They aren't always pleasant, albeit, but generally okay. Heated debates are where the problems really come up. So yeah, I meant to say that we need a plan that prevents heated debates from occurring too often.

Quote: "if someone insists they're right even though you've told them they're wrong, let it be"
Great motherly wisdom! Indeed, I think that is true. I myself have a hard time talking to other people who I know are totally wrong but they are simply too stubborn to comply. I wish I could adhere to that advice more often.

Quote: "these are things you already do very well, DJD64"
Awwwww shucks, thanks bro. I'm not sure if you were around when I was a blazing brat, but I once was.

Quote: "they will still be disallowed"
Healthy debates about moderator actions should be allowed, so long as they don't turn heated. But, as you said, debates about moderator actions rarely do maintain any health, so the point I just made, while probably agreeable in an ideal world, is generally null in practicality.

Quote: "I researched this a bit, but unfortunately was unable to determine an answer. I watched the review on the Amazon page and that mic definitely sound good, but I don't know what kind of recorder you'd need to make use of it."
Oh, thanks for researching for me. I always am astonished at how much work some people go to in order to answer silly little forum questions. Like I said, this forum is full of great people. You and I probably did the same research, as I came to the same conclusion as you did. It's one of those frustrating internet search endeavors, where you think the answer to your question should by all means be easy to find, but it's not. I hate those.

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Quote: "No lol."


So it's better that I make a completely new thread than add to an existing one?
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Posted: 15th Feb 2015 04:08 Edited at: 15th Feb 2015 04:08
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Quote: "Alright Clonkex, you're just offending me now. I HATE THIS FORUMMMMMMMMMMMM EVERYONE ON IT IS STUPIDD"


lol

Quote: "Lol, I bet that is entertaining."


Certainly is! It always amazes me, the trouble spambot creators go to to create very poorly-worded messages with horrific spelling in the hopes someone might hand over their credit card details

Quote: "So yeah, I meant to say that we need a plan that prevents heated debates from occurring too often."


I have an idea! No one post, ever, and the problem is solved!

Quote: "I'm not sure if you were around when I was a blazing brat, but I once was."


I've never seen that side of you

Quote: "is generally null in practicality."


Unfortunately, that tends to be the case

Quote: "I always am astonished at how much work some people go to in order to answer silly little forum questions."


Haha, I do it because I like helping people That and the fact that when I ask a complex question I want other people to spend lots of time helping me out

Incidentally, further research suggests that you should actually be just fine using that mic with a computer as long as it's not a Mac. The power supply isn't "external", it's just that some devices don't have the necessary power supply for the mic. From what I've read, some laptops may not have the necessary "pole" on the 3.5mm jack, but most PCs will. Your phone also supports external mics through its headphone jack so you could try it on that too, and with an extension cable (not sure whether that's practical) you may even be able to have the audio directly recorded with the video. For the price I'd buy it and try it

Quote: "So it's better that I make a completely new thread than add to an existing one?"


In general, if you want to discuss a new topic, then yes. Except in the post-comp where there is no topic


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Omg Lee Bamber has posted.
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Posted: 15th Feb 2015 05:37
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Quote: "Omg Lee Bamber has posted."


He has too!


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Quote: "Civilly debating mod decisions is a great way for mods to get feedback on their decisions, and for the community to work out things that have happened"

This has never worked, it invariably turns into a mod-bashing session, gets locked, and increases the animosity it was supposed to subdue. Then another thread arises. To put it in programming terms, it would create a recurring function and blow the stack.

Quote: "I have heard every mod say it"

Not by me.

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Quote: "This has never worked, it invariably turns into a mod-bashing session, gets locked, and increases the animosity it was supposed to subdue. Then another thread arises. To put it in programming terms, it would create a recurring function and blow the stack."


Indeed, in my humble times of being a member, I've seen several attempts at this and they never work out. It's a great idea, but it will turn into a huge argument in ~10 posts, and it will become flamebait.

I love that analogy, BatVink.

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Posted: 15th Feb 2015 19:46 Edited at: 15th Feb 2015 19:47
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Quote: "Not by me."
'Every mod' was a hyperbole, of course.

Quote: "This has never worked, it invariably turns into a mod-bashing session, gets locked, and increases the animosity it was supposed to subdue. Then another thread arises. To put it in programming terms, it would create a recurring function and blow the stack."
Indeed, in subsequent posts I have surrendered to that unfortunate fact.

I had this idea. It would effectively be a special format of post meant for debating moderator decisions (or other types of debates too). This too is probably an impractical idea, but I don't see the hurt in sharing. I have no idea what the specifics of this format would be. Perhaps moderator decisions could be debated using a post format that does not allow individual names to be discussed, does not allow harsh adjectives to be cast upon specific groups (eg crazy Windows 8 fanboys, tyrant mods, etc), or that sort of thing. Any thread meant for debating a moderator decision would have to be titled something along the lines of "Moderation Debate - thread title". Moderation debates would only be allowed to occur within the confines of those threads; users would face more moderation if they were to debate mod actions outside of one such thread. Any post within such a thread would be required to follow the specified debate format, lest its writer face full liability for any heated discussion that occurs consequently (which shouldn't happen if the rest of the thread participants continue to follow the format anyway).

The idea needs work for sure, but it could be a start.

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Most Moderators have been here for an extensive amount of time, and ALL have done a great job....often times with little to no thanks, and quite a bit of flak.

We don't allow debate of moderator decisions here, for the simple reason that it just won't work. This has been brought up numerous times in the last 10 years that I've been here; I suspect it was an issue long before then.

Is it alright to disagree with a Moderator's decision? Absolutely. But do it in a PM (a system we've had in place, albeit not perfect, for a good while now). If you feel that you are getting nowhere with a particular Mod; feel free to contact myself. But I can tell you this; many times, before a moderator takes action, issues are discussed amongst all of us. There have been MANY times that a moderator has recused his-self (or herself); so that there was no bias.

There have been users in the past, believe it or not, that live to cause drama on the boards here. That will not be tolerated, and action will be taken.

This is not to say that you can't debate moderator decisions on another Forum. But I'm telling you it will not be allowed here. Use the PM System, or use the Moderator's email (if they have one); but keep it out of the open boards.

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Couldn't have said it better myself, Keith!


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Quote: "But do it in a PM (a system we've had in place, albeit not perfect, for a good while now)"
Gotcha, I am glad that this is allowed. If issues can be taken up with a mod one on one through the PM system, I am perfectly fine with not being allowed to debate in open threads. Also, congrats on your promotion to senior mod! Are there any other senior mods, or are you the only one?

Clonkex should have his title changed to 'Junior Moderator'.

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Quote: "Are there any other senior mods, or are you the only one?"


Keith's the only one

Quote: "Clonkex should have his title changed to 'Junior Moderator'."


rofl I'd genuinely love that except that people might not take me seriously lol Hahaha


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You didn't claim points.

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if(points.claimed!=true) points.claim();


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Why was the hat thread locked???

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Now we're not even getting notices. Why do I come here, remind me?
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That thread was the most popular discussion I've seen on this site in a while and according to the forums based upon my time offset, it hasn't even happened yet While I'm not surprised the thread was locked, I am surprised a mod didn't chime in about the reason as usual. Now there's twice the mystery revolving around this hat

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We're not allowed to discuss drugs here, that's probably the reason.
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Maybe one of the mods is a PA at his school.

My guess is that
Quote: "3.6 Anything considered "adult" material (be it pornographic or horrific)"
was infringed. A notice at the bottom of the thread would have still been nice.

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Quote: "Maybe one of the mods is a PA at his school"

Someone turned him in after the fire extinguisher events a while back. You never know

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Quote: "We're not allowed to discuss drugs here, that's probably the reason."

Quote: "My guess is that
Quote: "3.6 Anything considered "adult" material (be it pornographic or horrific)"
was infringed. A notice at the bottom of the thread would have still been nice."


Correct. Notice added.


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Cool mod is cool. OUCH CLONKEX WHY DID YOU DO THAT? You are SO cool that you gave me frostbite. Stop that.

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lol

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My game is coming along brilliantly! It is a Unity game (I know, I know, I'm a traitor ), but I still intend to show it off here and I can't wait to do that And by that I mean post pics in the post-comp, not actually create a thread for it since we don't allow posting about non-TGC game engines in TGC's forums (but I don't think anyone can complain about Unity pics in the post-comp ).

I'm going so well with my game, staying focused, solving problems in minutes instead of hours, even making decisions quickly... that I have to keep telling myself it's now reasonable that, based on my past experience creating NeoParticle, I will finish my game.

Actually, even though sneak peaks are generally done for products that people are already excited to see, here's a sneak peak at my game so far. No, you can't really see anything... but just look at all those scripts!




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Quote: "And by that I mean post pics in the post-comp, not actually create a thread for it since we don't allow posting about non-TGC game engines in TGC's forums"

Don't they always go under Geek Culture? They're off topic relative to TGC products but a game is a whole lot more related than many of the other threads in GC

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Quote: "Don't they always go under Geek Culture? They're off topic relative to TGC products but a game is a whole lot more related than many of the other threads in GC"


Well yeah, but I think people have tried and had their threads locked. I'm not too clear on this atm, but I'll check with KeithC or Rick before posting anything

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You should watch Nolan's other films if you haven't, inception and the prestige. For artificial intelligence you should watch Trancendence.
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A good indicator for your ability to be able to cope with life is your ability to joke about anything. If there are things that are off-limits to you, or things that you just don't think are funny and will never joke about, then you have problems you need to work out. -- Destiny
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Quote: "You should watch Nolan's other films if you haven't, inception and the prestige. For artificial intelligence you should watch Trancendence."


Seen Inception and liked it Haven't heard of The Prestige or Transcendence- wait... The Prestige... maybe I have seen that. Is that the one where... yeah, I have seen that. Quite a complicated film to follow, IIRC And of course I've seen The Dark Knight, although I remember thinking the editing was somewhat odd in that film, especially in the fight scenes.


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Posted: 20th Feb 2015 02:01 Edited at: 20th Feb 2015 02:03
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Grr, the 'variety pack' of mac n cheese I have comes with regular cheddar and white cheddar flavors. Only problem is, both taste exactly the same! The ingredients on both are exactly the same too, only the white cheddar omits the orange dye. Not really a variety pack.

Does anyone here ever think a sentence has a comma in a weird place, only to realize it's just a spot on your screen? Looks like it's time for a good screen cleaning.

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Posted: 20th Feb 2015 02:41
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Quote: "Does anyone here ever think a sentence has a comma in a weird place, only to realize it's just a spot on your screen?"


I prefer not to let my screen get that dirty lol


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Posted: 20th Feb 2015 02:49
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Quote: "yeah, I have seen that. Quite a complicated film to follow, IIRC "


A little, I like films like that. I watched Time Lapse tonight, which was good, and a bit grim. It liked it.
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Posted: 20th Feb 2015 14:20 Edited at: 20th Feb 2015 14:21
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If you like slower, "thinking man's" films, try Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. We tried watching it some time ago, but it wasn't the kind of film we were expecting and we didn't take enough notice of the plot at the start to understand it later on, so we just turned it off half way through.

We watched Alien Outpost (aka Outpost 37) tonight. Pretty good, we liked it. Kind of a mix between Black Hawk Down and District 9. Much like Black Hawk Down and Green Zone, it managed to get across the utter horror of going to war, where you know you (or your friends) could be shot any second of any day.

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Still going well on my game. Not looking forward to the next bit. It's written as a single line in my TODO list, but it'll a fairly massive job. Unfortunately it's one of these things where you just have to plough through and do it all at once because once you begin, you can't test it 'til you finish.

Made some minor graphical improvements to the interface, just so it wasn't quite so jarring to test:



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Wowee!

I've been trying to figure out how I'll afford to get advanced compositing software, such as After Effects (don't like the subscription model) or Hitfilm 3 Pro (buggy and $299 upfront), when I discovered Blackmagic Fusion 7.

After a few initial problematic hours, I got everything set up how it needed to be, and this software is AMAZING.

What makes it even more amazing is that there is a free version which has virtually all the same features as the Studio version; it just doesn't offer plugin support or network rendering, but it includes the world's most advanced chroma keying tool (that I know of): Primatte. This thing is AMAZING in what it can handle! Have a glass in front of a green screen? No problem, Primatte can handle it! Fuzzy blonde hair? Again, no problem!

It's node-based as well, so adding and modifying effects is quite easily done. I h ave an idea for a test video to try out several things, I will be sure to post the results when I'm done.

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Posted: 21st Feb 2015 06:08
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Quote: "Have a glass in front of a green screen? No problem, Primatte can handle it!"
Took me several moments to realize the implications of this; that's really cool! So like, if you have a glass cup, it would look the background is indeed behind the glass? That's so cool.

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Posted: 21st Feb 2015 11:42 Edited at: 21st Feb 2015 13:51
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Thanks for the heads-up, I'll check it out. I've been using After Effects from 2002 for a long time.

[EDIT] The freaky thing is I was looking for reviews on BlackMagic batteries this morning, and had already seen this, not knowing exactly what it did

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Posted: 21st Feb 2015 18:34 Edited at: 21st Feb 2015 18:37
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Quote: "...if you have a glass cup, it would look the background is indeed behind the glass? That's so cool."


Indeed, here is a quick test I whipped up using some footage from this site. This is obviously a rough demo, I could get much better results spending more time on it, but this is an idea of how much work it can do right off the bat (with just a touch of tweaking in some areas):


You'll notice that reflections in the glass stay just fine, and even those green markers were removed *without* the use of a garbagge matte! How awesome is that? So awesome!

For my next trick I'll try my hand at matchmoving. I hear it's tricky but very fun!

@BatVink:

So that would be version 5.5, yes? Yikes, I'm surprised you've been able to use that for so long! It might be worth it for you to check out After Effects CC '14 if you're used to Adobe's workflow, but if you're like me you don't like the idea of paying $20/month to use it every-so-often. It does have some AMAZING features though, like the integration with Cinema4D files. Talk about easy set extensions!

However, I love Fusion. The more I play with it, the more I know I can pull off great effects fairly easily! It does take quite a bit of time to familiarize yourself with the program though, I'm still working on it.

If you do play around with it, HEED THIS ADVICE!

Ensure that your scroll lock key is set to OFF, otherwise the program won't display a preview of anything, even when you tell the nodes to display in the left or right view. In the picture I have posted, if you look in the bottom right corner, you'll see the timeline. You'll notice a button that says "All", the scroll lock key is the hotkey to toggle that option to "All" or "None", which is what controls whether the program updates the views or not. YOU WANT IT SET TO ALL!

EDIT: My apologies, in the photo it actually says "Some", that means it updates every 10 frames or so. You want it set to anything other than "None" is what I should have said. You'll know it's set to "None" because the different panels will then have a red outline instead of blue.

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2015 01:23
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Quote: "when I discovered Blackmagic Fusion 7"


I just had a look... WOW. They include a metric crap-tonne of features with the free version!! It looks a lot like Nuke, which is a very good thing. AND it includes Primatte? That's one of the keying plugins Nuke uses as well.

Quote: "I hear it's tricky but very fun!"


Can be very tricky, but can achieve some awesome results. I'm excited to see what I Fusion can do on this front!

Quote: "Ensure that your scroll lock key is set to OFF"


Thanks for the warning, but I always have Scroll Lock off. What even is the point of that key? It doesn't do anything in Windows 7. Obviously it's a very old key, but was its original use?


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Posted: 22nd Feb 2015 01:32
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Quote: "but was its original use?"
Keeping pages from scrolling.

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2015 01:55 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2015 02:03
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Clonkex:
Nuke is great, I know it's been used extensively in hundreds of films and TV shows. Fusion has been used in more recent productions, such as The Hunger Games series of films and Avatar.


Also, my scroll lock key unfortunately happens to be the key that toggles the backlights of my keyboard, which I like to keep on because the key's aren't printed; they're transparent to let the light through.

I've been looking into setting another hotkey but as far as I can tell it may not be possible in the free version of Fusion.

Here's another picture of Fusion in action, I messed with Primatte a lot more and got it the best that I could. I had to use a couple of garbagge mattes to clean the edges of the windows. It's actually kind of difficult to get multiple masks to use as garbagge mattes, you have to connect them in a series and if you don't do it right it will chop up your images!



The background is not matchmoved to the original footage at all. I can't get the tracker to work so I have to figure it out later.

EDIT: It would probably be a lot better to do set extension and matchmoving via Blender.

Basically, probably how I'd do it is trim the clips that I knew I needed to matchmove and integrate 3D elements into. All of this can be done in Blender, but for consistency's sake I'd probably edit my footage in Sony Vegas Movie Studio 11. Once that's done I'd bring the clips into Blender and matchmove them one by one, also creating alpha layers and such to use for final compositing in Fusion.

This means that, if I actually had enough talent for 3D work, I could easily set up a scene in which a character is on a rooftop, or a sci-fi location, anywhere really.

And it would cost me... nothing! Zip! nada! Only things I would need would be proper lighting and green screen equipment. Hmm, think I know what my next purchases related to my filmmaking interest shall be

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Posted: 22nd Feb 2015 05:31 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2015 06:00
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Well I was playing around with Fusion, and when I decided to render a finished clip, I chose my desktop as the location to render to. I guess I did something wrong, because it filled my desktop with over 2,000 wmv video files, totaling to over 2GB.

EDIT Did I just get a boatload of points?

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