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FPSC Classic Models and Media / Normal map Tutorial with GIMP (the real one) (56k warning)

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Dark Jaguar Flame
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Posted: 2nd May 2008 14:05 Edited at: 2nd May 2008 16:12
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Welcome.. train yourself in the powers of normal map


Now i am sure this is gonna be the tutorial..

Make sure you have gimp version 2.4 or it dont work..
Download the normal map plugin from : http://nifelheim.dyndns.org/~cocidius/normalmap/.



Do not place the bin dll files in that folder place it in the normal
bin folder of gimp.



























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Aertic
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Great work!
we will all benefit from this, now our games will look much magnificent.
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Can a mod ad this to the tutorial links?

When this tutorial is going down..
And a noob would know how-to..

Than he can see this tutorial..

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Posted: 2nd May 2008 16:55
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Great! Now I dont have to buy Crazybump wich just expired today
Great tutorial!

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Lookin good. Already knew how to assign bump-maps to objects, but the gimp part was new to me.

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Nice Tut, I'll be using that!



My first animated Gif. Made in GIMP 2.
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I will do that to every metal object in my game
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YEAH!!! lol



My first animated Gif. Made in GIMP 2.
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Quote: "I will do that to every metal object in my game "


SCIFI

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Posted: 2nd May 2008 18:57
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I actualy wonder what you use to make a cubentbump map, its the same a bumpmapping right?

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Posted: 2nd May 2008 19:06
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Nice tutorial!
Great work.

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Quote: "I actualy wonder what you use to make a cubentbump map, its the same a bumpmapping right?"


I dont get it..

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@Dark Jaguar Flame

Yeah well done, this is a good tutorial and the results in your final pic speak for themselves.

I hadn't tried using that shader on normal mapped entities before so I guess thats 1 problem out of the way and quite a big one at that.

However I've definately tried using that shader with a normal mapped segment and it fell over like when trying with the bump and bumpent shaders.

Have you tried this technique for segments yet and had any success (by success I mean seeing the kind of quality effect from your drums on floors, walls and ceilings for segments at the same time)?

I think you would be automatically pic of the month winner if you demonstrated a screenshot of those drums in a normal mapped segment with similar quality.

This is definately worthy of praise indeed though.
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Posted: 2nd May 2008 22:22 Edited at: 2nd May 2008 22:33
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Nomad soul i am glad you like it..

But i dont understand drums, Can you give details?

Quote: "Have you tried this technique for segments yet and had any success (by success I mean seeing the kind of quality effect from your drums on floors, walls and ceilings for segments at the same time)?"


Yes but now with (many) succes.

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Posted: 3rd May 2008 08:51
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Quote: "But i dont understand drums, Can you give details?"


LOL. Neither do I. By drums I mean barrels.

Quote: "Yes but now with (many) succes."


Please post a pic. I tried this again with a segment and still had same issues.

Ok I've had a go with your tutorial except I used crazybump for the normal map instead of Gimp with the plugin.

It produced a good result especially when you pickup the barrel and move it around the light source although didn't quite nail it like you did. Maybe I should try Gimp.

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Posted: 3rd May 2008 08:54 Edited at: 3rd May 2008 08:58
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Here is the same barrel and normal map in FPSC X10

The normal map appears to show up better in X10 and rendered smoother

Anyway, I'd be interested to hear more from you on the segment side of things.

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Posted: 4th May 2008 19:13
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Here is for what i fineshid now with gimp for segments..
BLACK

( Yes it is in FPSC )

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Posted: 4th May 2008 19:46
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this has worked wonders for my texturing
i take my hat to you
( i think i should realy keep it on ^_^)

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i kinda screwed up and saved the noraml as the texture so can someone plz upload this dds file ill be very gratefull

D:\program files\The Game Creators\FPS Creator\Files\texturebank\scifi\scenery\furniture\cylinderC

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nevermind reinstalled FPS

thnxs for the tut now everything is shiny ^_^

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Posted: 5th May 2008 07:00 Edited at: 5th May 2008 07:01
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Quote: "Here is for what i fineshid now with gimp for segments..
BLACK"


Don't feel too bad about the segments. Unless someone releases a better shader than the stock bump.fx thats what tends to happen.

Anyway, following the success of getting some of these additional maps to work thanks to your tutorial, I made a specular map to go with the normal map I made earlier for my barrel.

I was pleased with the results. Whilst you've provided a good solution for improving FPSC X9 entities, it seems they've been able to do a better job with per pixel lighting when using normal and specular maps with FPSC X10 as the attached pic shows.

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Dark Jaguar Flame, could I include this tutorial in my guide?

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Quote: "Dark Jaguar Flame, could I include this tutorial in my guide?
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SURE

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Posted: 5th May 2008 16:21
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Done

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Dark Jaguar Flame
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Posted: 8th May 2008 12:05
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Maybe this tutorial is not that good as i thought..

I think many people think this is many work..
And some peoples VideoCards dont support shaders..

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Posted: 8th May 2008 12:18
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Erm, i'm having trouble downloading the plugin. It says I need a whole lot of stuff, and I don't want to download them all.

FlashPack!
Buy it NOW!
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=122152&b=24
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Nice work, I'll try when I get the chance.

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Maybe a bump but I just cant get the plugin to work.
I cant find my program files/ common files/gtk folder. I cant even find any folders at all in my Program Files folder. Everything gets installed into Program.
Does anyone know how to help me?

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Quote: "program files/ common files/gtk folder"


and

Quote: "Do not place the bin dll files in that folder place it in the normal
bin folder of gimp."


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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 12:17 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 16:48
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Bump but just to show:

A nice video with normalmapped ..
Barrels..
Pipes ..?

Video vimeo : http://www.vimeo.com/1099607

When it shows : Sorry there was a problem loading this video..
Pleas wait .. maybe vimeo wil fix this soon..

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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 12:21 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 12:22
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try youtube. I know, bad quality, but this doesnt work.

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Posted: 1st Jun 2008 12:22 Edited at: 1st Jun 2008 16:42
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Image quality low..
Ingame better..

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Everything works now

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Nice tutorial, seems to be useful for many.

I'm surprised so few people knew about the bumpcubereflectalpha-trick, I've used it for pretty much all my X9-entities.
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Wow. I actually fell off my chair when I saw this.

It's amazing, I will report back soon with a screenshot once I've tried it out for myself

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Nice work.

These do look very nice especially for FPSC X9.

If only this process could be used on segments. I guess thats kind of a problem though given the fact entities and lights need to be made dynamic for this to work.

You've done well here Dark Jaguar Flame. Now start working on segments and see if you can succeed where so many have failed (including myself)
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I like to see how many people like this..

Good luck Cipher..

Nomad Soul..
Maybe i try soon..

2 weeks before the summer vacation and then i have 5 weeks to work around

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