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FPSC Classic Work In Progress / [X9] When Worlds Collide (56K warning)

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Bugsy
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okay, well get on skype, and we'll talk

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Ladies and Gentlemenm and children of all ages!

I come here to present you with the SECOND OFFICIAL WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE TRAILER

please watch, and enjoy, as it is a taste of things to come

the trailer can be viewed HERE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQtMQaRpZ1g

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Awesome.

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Great Looking Gameplay, Wray!

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thanks guys! anyone else?

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Great job with the video.I'm retexturing the building right now.And since I read somewhere the buildings look way too flat I'll cut out holes for the windows to make it look more realistic


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I'm afraid I can't use it if you cut out holes, it will be too high poly, and I optimize WWC to run on practically any machine. I had the horrific experience of FPSC on a 10 year old machine running my dream maps at 10 fps, and I want no one to experience the same thing

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Relax.The current geometry doesn't allow that.It's almost re-textured and in my opinion looks a lot more realistic than before.I'll post it in a few minutes


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Posted: 1st Sep 2010 00:40 Edited at: 1st Sep 2010 00:41
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Alright Bugs,try this one as skyscraper3 from Dark City :

I kinda screwed up one of the windows , because of the weird geometry.I'll try to fix it , but if you like it like it is tell me.


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I'll have to see it. may be a bit before I can test, I'm getting HDD problems I think.

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Looks great!! But the question remains... Does it build???

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yep
builds just fine with no imageblock, but I haven't added music or voices yet.

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Hey bugsy any updates?
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yeah

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famas.

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Nicely Done.

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why thank you. although I cant tell you who did it, as he asked me not to, I will not take credit for it.

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Nice FAMAS Whoever made it, should go and sell in the TGC Store


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can't. it's rigged to EAI hands.

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Looks like a wolfy gun. Nice job

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it's a french foreign legion's Giat FAMAS G2

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Quote: "Looks like a wolfy gun"

Quote: "it's a french foreign legion's Giat FAMAS G2"


@Wray, I think Nbt meant it looks like it's one of Wolf's guns


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oooooh.
I thought he meant wolfenstein.

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Posted: 9th Sep 2010 13:27 Edited at: 9th Sep 2010 13:27
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Yeah a gun made by wolfy


I can make guns like wolfenstein guns

wolfenstein 1 though

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it still doesn't mean you're not a great modeller!

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Hmm ..... To bad you cant sell it, anyway

Keep it up and remember what i sad, if you need help, say it!


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I originally planned to sell this game, but that was when I was young and naive and believed people would actually pay 10 dollars for a 15 minute game. now I'm giving them a 45 minute game for free!

I may sell my next title, operations, but that's only if the gameplay length exceeds 2 hours.

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UPDATE

screenie dump of level 7.


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perilous parkour scene on the way up to the apartment section of the building.
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the way to the windows that lead to the scaffolds.
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bathroom that really needs its lighting redone
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kitchen complete with amazing professional quality worktops from none other than Nbt

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Been lurking on this forum for a couple hours.

I have to say your project is looking really good Bugsy.

Good luck and keep up the good work!

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funny, my email just jingled saying someone posted here, but there's no post...

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Il post here don't you worry! lol

Looking really good bro, if i had to guess i would say it was a henry ham gun (the famas obviously)

loving the new screens, although the sinks seem too high in the bathroom and the kitchen is pretty bright.

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the lights are still on in the kitchen

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Quote: "although the sinks seem too high in the bathroom"

The eye height of the player compared to the height of a segment is really confusing at times and makes creating/placing stuff at correct aspects a pain at times

I wish segments were about 1.2-1.5x height, as 2x is too high and 1 always feels cramped.

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Quote: "funny, my email just jingled saying someone posted here, but there's no post..."

Rupert must still be in post moderation then.

The gun looks awesome, and I was that guy who created the gun, I would want my name ALL OVER IT! It looks really good!

And in the bathroom scene, I don't really like the ceiling. And the last screenie, are the lamps pushed trought the ceiling? Loks like they are half inside it...

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Quote: "And in the bathroom scene, I don't really like the ceiling."

That's not in fact a ceiling, just the floor. You need to actually add a ceiling to the segment structure (or make a ceiling overlay mesh), or it just repeats the floor mesh.

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Looking nice, but I'd say the last 2 screens are of a fairly poor standard compared to the others. The bathroom is pretty uninspiring (Yes, it's only a bathroom, but it can be improved on) and the kitchen is just fairly bland. I know the lights are on, but their range is so high that it's almost like there aren't any lights at all. It's just like someones whacked the ambience right up.
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Quote: "Looking nice, but I'd say the last 2 screens are of a fairly poor standard compared to the others. The bathroom is pretty uninspiring (Yes, it's only a bathroom, but it can be improved on) and the kitchen is just fairly bland. I know the lights are on, but their range is so high that it's almost like there aren't any lights at all. It's just like someones whacked the ambience right up. "

I've gotta agree with that. The last two definitely weren't as good as the previous ones. The bathroom wasn't too bad, but the kitchen...looks a bit 5-minute. Mainly from the lighting.

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Quote: "I wish segments were about 1.2-1.5x height, as 2x is too high and 1 always feels cramped."



agree'd. I think you should be able to dynamically scale the size of the segments, but it keeps the floor in the same spot.

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sorry about the last 2 screens guys, the bathroom can't really have much inspiration, as it's a bathroom, and I dunno what else to put in there

inb4 "put overlays on the floor" - the bathroom IS NOT GRUNGY IN ANY WAY. it's very clean and kept to high standards as this is a high class shopping area and apartment complex mainly for rich people in the uptown area, and the workers on the S.E.T. team.

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A proper ceiling would help the bathroom. I have attached a .fps file for the M3 bathroom to show you how to apply a ceiling to rooms, so you don't get the floor as your ceiling. I know it's not the bathroom your using, but you can still see how it's done and apply to that one. Plus I know you have Model Pack 3

Please note that M3 rooms have the floor set 2 units lower than normal with a Y offset of -52 instead of -50. So the .fps I have attached is set to -50 for the floor, just keep this in mind if changing more M3 room segments

I have also e-mailed you a few more bits for your kitchen to make it a little less empty looking.

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facepalm

guys I know how to change a ceiling on a map. don't you guys think I'm a little better than that?

thanks for you your concern however.

thx for the models I'll check them btw.

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Wray... Bad news... Not going to be able to send you the files today either ... GIMP just refuses to save the files for some reason

Ill have to redo the textures on another PC before I can send them to you. Ill try (keep your fingers crossed) to send it to you over the weekend, but i kind of want to make it better than the AK's texture

Sorry again...

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hey that's fine. whenever you can man

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Quote: "don't you guys think I'm a little better than that?"

Erm.... ??? No ?

he he he - I forgot to actually attach the .fpe anyway it seems ^_^

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I noticed the same thing. I was wondering why. it also appears I'm missing some models and textures that there are icons to go with

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What cutter is that in second screenie. Becouse it cuts only first segment.


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Quote: "I noticed the same thing. I was wondering why. it also appears I'm missing some models and textures that there are icons to go with"


All meshes and textures for each icon are present in the .rar I sent you. None are missing anything.

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it cuts both, it's for detail so I put an entity wall in there.

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hey guys, update-

level 7 is TOO MUCH for fpsc's ram cap. any ideas on what to do?

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Turn lightmap quality down a bit, or turn a few entities to dynamic etc

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just took out a zillion objects and turned the lightmap quality to an ungodly low 256/40

it was able to play in test. sadly, if I want to keep it that way I can't add the new kitchen stuff. I'll see if I can find another place to squeeze it in like an employee break room in another map.

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Quote: "just took out a zillion objects and turned the lightmap quality to an ungodly low 256/40"


Never thought reducing the LM texture size did that much to reduce the memory footprint to be honest?? I would rather keep the texture size higher and reduce the LM quality myself, but like I said I never knew texture size mattered as much as LM Quality.

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