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Red Ocktober
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Posted: 29th Nov 2005 23:51 Edited at: 29th Nov 2005 23:54
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Quote: "actually, i can see your point if the code is time driven, but my games work on a frame by frame basis, not time. you could also use the automatic syncing in apps like STOS on the atari. but the same redraw during a scan takes place. it is common policy for games writers to update their game world AFTER all drawing operations are complete, in most cases this is the standard and accepted way of doing things.

this is the very essence of page flipping. flip when finished. it's like in blitz too

in your loop you update the world, then render the world, then flip the buffers.


Uliimately the best way forward, would actually be a step backward to the standardised refresh rates of yesteryear. then all you would need is a wait vbl command.
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now you are starting to see the big picture... verrrrrry good geecee, there's hope for you yet...


@ cashcurtis...
you see... i knew you were the one on medication... but i won't make fun of your condition... that's not me...
Quote: "First of all, bring your ass next to me and see what happens. How do you plan to get on base anyway?"

only if you want to meet me curtis... i'm no stalker...
and trust me... i can get on base, and trust me, nothing would happen to me if i did bring my #$$ next to yours... besides, i would only meet you if you agreed to it anyways... you seemed to want to compare pecs and do a lil heavy lifting... but now you are coming up with this disability story and all... i doubt if it would really be much of a competition...

a young diabetic boy and an old perfect human speciman like myself

but hey... if you're ever in upstate NY, and you wanna get together... just lemme know...

@ simsmall...
Quote: "Red October, I'm not in anyway agreeing with your initial posts of using sync off, what I'm saying is "as well as manual sync, to make a game run the same on all machines add something that updates your 3D positions (what I've been calling my ticker)""

i'm not trying to say that you are agreeing with me... all i'm saying is that you laid out the truth clear and simple...

some like to sync... some don't... for whatever their reasons are...

like i said in the posts above, there are circumstances where a sync might provide the solution... but in general, todays hardware is fast enough to let your game run at a constant sync rate... at least that's the way i see it...

others might see it differently... your post, hopefully, provided a clear picture...

--Mike
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Cash Curtis II
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Posted: 29th Nov 2005 23:52 Edited at: 29th Nov 2005 23:58
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Make fun of my condition? Why? What for? It doesn't make one damned bit of difference. You'd never know I was a diabetic unless I told you. It doesn't slow me down one bit. I only had to get out of the military because insulin is not available in a war zone.

Quote: "a young diabetic boy and an old perfect human speciman like myself "


You are stupid. Don't ever come around me.

Here's a picture of me lifting myself out of bed. This was taken two months ago, at the beach. That thing on my left hip is my insulin pump. Great thing, really. I'd love to see a picture of you. Of course, I'd probably get one taken 43 years ago before you were impotent.


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Red Ocktober
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Posted: 29th Nov 2005 23:57 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:03
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hahahahaha... i said i wouldn't make fun of it... im not the type to poke fun at someones infirmity...

and i am a perfect male specimen... no deseases, perfect blood pressure, only a slightly elevated cholesterol level because of the hi carb intake for weights and football...

... so i can keep with you young bucks whenever any of you feel the need to jump up and feel froggy with an old man.

now why ya gotta call me stupid now... ya know that's not in accordance with the forum ettiquette... hey, it's alright, i'm not insulted you are just being the youngster that you are...

*** added ****
i just saw3 your picture... yeah, good idea that you don't compete with me skinny... (god, i wish i had a pic from the gym, or any pic of myself available right now... ahhh best i don't do that)... besides, i really am not interested in exchanging pinup shots... save em for your girl friends... or boy friends, whichever way you go...

i'm here for programming... not to enter new relationships

--Mike
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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 00:03 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:06
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There is no reason on the face of the earth you could make fun of it.

"Uhh.. you take shots. Hahaha!"

Is that what you'd say? There's nothing anyone can say. I'm in great shape.

Quote: "i just saw3 your picture"

Quote: "i'm here for programming... not to enter new relationships "

This has become nothing but personal. If you've seen my picture, then answer to it. How disabled am I?
You probably misspell because your hands shake. Post of picture of yourself. You won't, though.

You're a mean, condescending old man who plays video games all day in front of his five computer monitors. You probably are in a nursing home. I've said everything I need to say. You've insulted my programming abilities, my general intelligence, and my physical capabilities. Whatever. I've answered all of those. You just ignore what you want to.

I'm done. I hope you get banned forever. You make this forum a worse place.


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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 00:06 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:09
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Quote: "This has become nothing but personal. "
no.. it really hasn't... and you really wouldn't want it to...

if you think it has, then you don't know me...

plus, you seem to be the one that wants it that way... from all your posts referring to me on medication...

as we see, you are the one in a docs care...

you started that... not me...

Quote: "If you've seen my picture, then answer to it. How disabled am I?"
not easy to tell from your pics... you obviosly can't see, those glasses look like coke bottles from here...

and you look a lil thin... for someone benchin 280 lbs...

but hey... i know a few wiry young men who are strong... so...

but you aren't as handsome as i am... even at the ripe ole age of 54...

... now lets put an end to this, this is getting a lil weird if you ask me, showing me your picture, asking me to comment on it...

i told ya, i aint like that...

can we get back to programming...


--Mike

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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 00:08 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:12
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Quote: "no.. it really hasn't... and you really wouldn't want it to..."

You can be more of a jerk? I find that hard to believe.

Quote: "not easy to tell from your pics... you obviosly can't see, those glasses look like coke bottles from here..."

Those are sunglasses, you moron.

Drop me a line when you do come to Okinawa. I'd love to see you. I doubt I'll be in NY while you're still alive.


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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 00:11 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:12
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Quote: "You can be more of a jerk? I find that hard to believe"
that's ok... i'm sure there's many things that you find hard to believe... you're still young... there's a lot for you to learn...

Quote: "Drop me a line when you do come to Okinawa"

well... only if you don't take it as a date...or anything like dat...

ok... programming stuff now please...


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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 00:13 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:14
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Quote: "that's ok... i'm sure there's many things that you find hard to believe... you're still young... there's a lot for you to learn..."

Okay, Yoda.

Quote: "or anything like dat"


What's a "dat"? And what about the pointless glasses comment?


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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 00:14 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:17
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ok... look curtiss... this has been fun and all, but i really am gonna have ta leave ya...

sorry, but you're really startin to get silly now...

bye

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Whatever.


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@SimSmall: Thank you.

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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 00:21 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:24
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Quote: "All right? Now, can we put this one to bed please? it's getting slightly tiring..."

that's what he said... and i agree...

besides, i think i already thanked him... and if i didn't, i should've...


can we get back to programming now...

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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 00:25 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:33
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... Shut up ...

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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 00:32 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:37
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Quote: "Benjamin
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... Shut up ..."


now... now... now... not nice...

and definitely against forum rules...



please would a moderator lock this thread...

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Honestly, I can't believe you two fell out over the use of sync (on/off) [Delete as appropriate]...

...maybe one day I'll finish a project
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We didn't fall out, we were never friends. I don't have any friends.

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OK then... "got into an argument" over...

...maybe one day I'll finish a project
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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 00:53 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 00:55
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oh my goodness...

ok, look... i'll be your friend... everyone should have at least one friend...

if you'll just stop acting so anti social...

ok...

there... now you've got a friend...

just don't ask to borrow any money right now... i'm a lil light at the moment


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Posted: 30th Nov 2005 01:28 Edited at: 30th Nov 2005 20:29
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This is rediculous!

EDIT: and I was talking about everyone.

I wonder if a mod will make this a sticky thread!

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Huh. I thought this argument was about sync on/sync off, not people from this forum...

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that's what I thought...

Quote: "Honestly, I can't believe you two fell out over the use of sync (on/off) [Delete as appropriate]..."


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