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MODERATORS: As I am told you don't like games, I promise only one nation game at a time. The old game is over and you may lock it if you like.

It is the peak of global confusion:
This nation forum game (I shortened it to NFG) is set in high middle ages, 1000AD. Here is a description of the time (I know it's a little off, but it is supposed to by the highest disunity of the middle ages of each era here.):

The unity known as the Roman and Han Chinese empires has come to a close and both regions have suffered from balkanization (breaking up of a nation. it is my favorite word.) With Europe taking the worst. The small states of Germany and north Italy are fighting amongst each other, but gain a small unity in the Holy Roman Empire, a loose collection of these states. Not all was chaos, though. The Islamic Sultanates were centers for religion, culture and sience.


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- You play as one nation. You may make up your own nation. Give a brief history of that nation.

- For a while, one day is five years, you may, however talk about what happened in your nation later in the day, as long as it doesn't change the outcome of a pre-handled battle.

- Wars are handled by a 3rd party.

- No unrealistic trade. eg. (I saw this on the old game.)
Nation 1.: We will trade a nuke for a bowl of spigetti
Nation 2: Ok.

do NOT do that.

- No extreme alterations of the earth. eg. Godzilla drinking all the oceans

- Technology will be handled differentially, it must be approved by others in the thread. Here are (pretty nice) guidelines:

No gunpowder until 1300 (Europe), 1200 (Middle East) and Asia can not invent guns until 1200. (They can still use grenades and other gunpowder weapons

No Steam power until 1800

No Electricity until 1900

Please, make it SOMEWHAT realistic.

- Points abolished. Military will now be based on population and weather your nation can support it. (an army's gotta eat!)

- Map and nation numbers go up friday. Game starts Monday.

- Have fun!!!

Until the game starts, you can talk about the rules and if they need a change.

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Shotgun USA!

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Its 1000AD, the USA wasnt even dreamed of and America wasnt even discovered by Europe. You could play as the Toltec (Centeral Mexico reigon) or the Mayans or the Incans (Peru) or any other native tribe, nothing even close to the USA.

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Hmm. I'm not much of an expert on this kind of stuff, I don't want to take the obvious places like Rome... when you say make your own nation do you mean I can literally, from the start, MAKE my own nation?

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Posted: 2nd Sep 2010 15:43 Edited at: 2nd Sep 2010 15:46
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Sure, as olong as it is an accual place on the map and you can give a brief history. You probably could claim a small part of C. Germany or N. Italy as they were divided into many small states at the time as your own nation with its own name.

HEY, something else, Rome had fallen about 500 years earlier. North Italy is in a bunch of fudal states centeral Italy belongs to the pope and southarn Italy belongs to the Norman. Nobody should claim rome, the Holy Roman Empire or all of Italy.

Sorry to sound rude, but I keep on hearing Rome. One can, however play as the East Roman Empire, aka the Byzantine Empire.

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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Is the Australian space taken? ^^

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Nope, nothing is taken yet.

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Okay then I will take what is now Australia and the little islands near it and I will call is the.. Austric (hard C) Empire? I guess that works. We recently colonized the land after the leader of some larger main stream civilization decided to give his child (me) his own kingdom. (If anyone has any interest in being my father take the spot XD ) We have a weak military but we are constantly gaining troops from our "leader," AKA the fathers civilization, *enter civilization here.* Our specialization is we have thousands of unbelievably skilled scouts so we can have an easy way to get secret info.

Did they have flags back then?

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Just read the rules all the way, thank you. All the unrealistic stuff is really why I bombed myself. I wanted to part of it.

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I already called Rome in the old board. Velites ftw!


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I will take France.

Can I add a rule, that you are only aware of the countries nearby, if you want to war or trade with distant lands you have to send expeditions there first and discover the new lands.

Also real world conditions apply, i.e.

America has lots of gold
Asia has spices and dyes
Europe has technology
Middle East has science and medicine

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There is no America. There is no Rome. OB87, I would love to have that first rule.

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Yes, I agree. That is why id did not allow the one guy to be America.

Real resources will be in the user template to determane what you can get. For example a nation with no coal cannot have much of a railsystem without trading for it. I also think that if you have a great number of subjected peoples that you tend to ignore in your posts, you may be subject to revolts.

I claim the Tlingit Kingdom of the Alaskan coast.

@ Australia: that claim is too big for that time. All you had there were tribes of Aborigines (no white people yet). You could be the Ngunnawal tribe of australia, and have the southeast cost, is that good. You could always expand.

Lets start with the map... but not the game until Later. That green nation is the Tlingit.

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I call Italy and call it Rome then. Loopholes FTW.


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Ok, here is the map updated. I hope this is OK, for Australia, I was pretty generous for just a tribe, and at Rome, I was pretty nice and merged the larger kingdoms of Italy at that time.

Alternative: the Byzantenes called themselves Rome, if you want to play as Turkey+ Greek, say so.

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I dont see an attachment


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I am updating the map, give me time.

EDIT: Added France on to the map in this post rather than to take it down again. I know it doesn't look like France today, I am using THIS MAP for reference. They, however didn't give reference for the feudal Germany area, but it was not under complete control by the Holy Roman Empire.

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Okay, I'm fine with that. But I was really looking forward to having a father in the competition. I will start to expand and you can update my expansion at any rate you prefer.

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I call jersey.
I may be 9 miles by 5, but i will sure win

(Its a small isl between england and france).

When can i start building troops?

I also call Guernsey, Alderney, and Sark (more small islands near me)

They will be referred to collectively as the United Channel Islands.

ill do that breif history stuff tomorow

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Why dont you just claim England? Or how about some larger empire. Heck, claim part of recantially-balkanized China or Japan or Mongolia, or russia, or India or an Arab Sultanate or the Aztec or take a more powerful (but in decline) Byzantine Empire. It would be better if you had a larger empire so that there will be more interaciton. That and the rediculas trades of the old game will not go down like that. Ex. No trading weapons for a bowl os spagetti.

I am switching my claim to Bulgaria

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Oops, double post

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Well can i take Scotland aswell?
Possibly Ireland?

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If you give a good history of how (scotland and England hate eachother) then yes, you can.

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I meant Scotland, Ireland, and jersey, guernsey, sark, alderny
i wana conquer England :p.

All united under the banner to liberate the British isls from foreign cultures. Seeing as british people are not really Celts.

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I forgot and am too lazy to scroll up. Did you give my tribe a name or can I make up mah own!

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I did, but it is pretty obscure. You can make up ur own.

@Jersey, ok, but it might be hard to do.

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Yeah because I really like Austric, or some sort of variation of that. I don't know why but Australian Tribe seems a little far-fetched. Hmm.

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u dont need to draw jersey on the map, noone ever does =p

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BAGSY BRITAIN!!!

Now know as BenTopia
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^ psst, Britain doesn't exist yet :/
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I gave him England. Updated map with the Jersey Alliance(?) and BenTopia

Nation Numbers Thing:
Population: Be plausible
Rich _%
Middle class _%
Poor _%
Unemployed _%

Religion: Give percentage makeup.

Resources:
Give the top 5

Problems:
At least 3. Everyone has them, don't make me make them up for you.

Capital:

Major Cities:

Intelligence service. (At first this is probably going to be NA)
How Many
Police Force
How Many

ARMED FORCES (Be plausible. Remember making too big of an army causes problems at home, and your population has to be able to feed it.)

Army:

Navy:


Nation Flag:

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Why am I not expanding? I said I want to expand at whatever rate you seem correct. It's been 10 years, I'd think I'd be pretty far.

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I expand too.


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TThe game did not even start yet! You have to fill out the above nation numbers thing above, after you fill that out, then post about what is happening in your nation. The game offically starts NOW!

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Population, i dunno, how many people would i have?
Rich 15%
Middle class 15%
Poor 69%
Unemployed 1%

Religion: Many local celt religions

Resources:
Give the top 5
Iron, Wood, Deer, Cattle, Sheep

Problems:
Believe that the sky may fall on their heads. (if thats not a problem then i dunno what is)
Weak navy
Savage and unorganized military.

Capital:
Jersey, the whole island.

Major Cities:
Dublin, Jersey and Edinburgh

Intelligence service. (At first this is probably going to be NA)
How Many
Police Force
How Many

ARMED FORCES (Be plausible. Remember making too big of an army causes problems at home, and your population has to be able to feed it.)

Army: Like all countries at that time all men would be brought into battle under the kings command without a choice. 75% of the male population will fight.

Navy:
Mere, very small, only about a hundred transport ships scattered across the channel

Nation Flag:






Seeing as i can start, i send a diplomat to France to ask for an alliance and traderights.
I also start mass producing weapons and armor for my army.
I send 2 of my best fleets with a small army north in search for new land, i find a small island just north of ireland and make a new town with no resistant from the locals.
However one of my ships didnt make the crossing and sunk with its expeditionary crew.

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I really have to all that?

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Yes, but it only takes a minuate. You can probabially wing it as long as you are not uneralistic.
@ fatal your pop would be about 1.5 M

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Ill take the southeast section of the USA. Alabama, Tennessee,Florida,and Georgia

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And I think it's been long enough I own about half of Australia...

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You cant take so much so quick, WWIV. I think I shoud own England by now at the very least.


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Here's how we should do it: with each post you make regarding you're empire and its status, you'll have the option of expanding by 1 square on the grid (look at attachment). I have updated the map for WWIV, as well as my empire.

Name: Persia
Pop: 1,000,000
Rich: 10%
Med: 40%
Low: 50%
Unemployed: 1%

Religion: Christian 50% / Jewish 25% / None 25%

Resources: Food, wood, gold, stone, silk

Problems:
We do not yet have any cavalry, have to travel by foot.
Our weapons are a little old
Our soldiers are eating too much food, the rest of us need to eat too!

Capital: Sprite
Major Cities: Coke, Doctorpepper, Sevenup

Army: 375,000
Navy: None, I have not yet expanded to the coast.


Nation Flag:

AutoBot Report 1:

We're pretty lucky to be near the Caspian Sea, because otherwise it's extremely dry here. We're sending trade caravans over to Greece to see if they want to make an alliance. (Who plays Greece again? The cyan area) We have some hard working villagers here. We currently have moderate food, low wood, medium gold, high stone, and no silk.

Once again, map attached.

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Again, I have not expanded at all? Ugh.

If it is allowed I want this to be my flag. Very inspirational.



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Awww lookie dat wliddel cuute puppy...

Ok, back to business. Half of Australia seems to be a little much, you have to post about your civ first (look at my other post).

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Name: Rome
Pop: 7,000,000
Rich: 30%
Med: 10%
Low: 60%
Unemployed: 3%

Religion: Catholic 70% \ Greek 70% \ None 5%

Resources: Food, Gold, Stone, Silk, Cow
Problems:
Too many poor people.
Smelly people.
Little trade.
Bad politicans.
Mostly farmers and soldiers.

Capital: Rome
Major Cities: SPQR, Julii, Brutii, Ceasarstown.

Army: 700,000
Navy: 800,000


Nation Flag:

Rome Report:
Ceasar has swayed most of the plebians vote and alot of the patrictions votes.
We start expanding on main europe.


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All of it? Aww! And it's been 15 years. Shouldn't I have half of Australia after 15 years of expanding? Fine, I'll start.

Rich: 40%
Middle Class: 50%
Poor: 9%
Unemployed: 1%

Religion: (I hope this is okay but I made a religion) Hension: 95%/ None: 5%

Resources: Animal Skins
Meats
Wood
Problems: Poor economy
very. very. slow. expanding.
Poor military, only equipped with wooden weapons sharpened at the end.

History: Formed by but six men and women fighting for civilization, the Austric Tribe stands proud as the only discovered civilization in what is now Australia. They have very common ways like they are lead by a chief, who is currently Cormorant, who watches over all other men. No other people have made contact with this lone tribe, so they are not aware of the strength of alliances and trade. They also have not had experience with war, so all they have for weapons is wooden sticks with sharp edges made for killing animals along with their good agility and intelligence. They made their own religion, Hension, which is formed around the worship of a kangaroo, the only animal this tribe is not willing to kill. The tribe runs by them all the time but worships them rather then kills them. Whenever a dead 'roo is found they take the body (if intact) and hang it over a fire as an apology to the creator for the death of one of his favorite children. They do not eat the meat, but the chief is known for wearing the fur of a kangaroo already warmed in the fire, yet not burnt. These proud people hope to someday own the entire land they live on, so even though they are slow, they expand and multiply in population.

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I think we should change it back to 1 day = 1 year, since this game is slower paced compared to the last one.

AutoBot Report 2:

We have expanded further to the south and found some metal on the way, giving us a few swords and other weapons. We have also started building stone buildings.

Map attached.

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Population: 12 million
Rich 5%
Middle class 30%
Poor 65%
Unemployed 6%

Government: Feudal Monarchy

Religion: Roman Catholic

Resources:
Horses, Weapons, Wine, Jewels, Textiles.

Problems:
Common outbreaks of Typhus and Cholera.


Capital: Paris

Major Cities: Arles, Marseilles, Chauvigny, Poitiers.

Intelligence service. (At first this is probably going to be NA)
Many European Emissaries

Police Force
None, local Barons keep the peace.

ARMED FORCES (Be plausible. Remember making too big of an army causes problems at home, and your population has to be able to feed it.)

Army: 4,000 standing army
Navy: 800 standing navy

Under the Feudal system there is only a small standing army but knights of the realm are given land and in return they fight for the king.

National Flag:


Can I be blue on the map as this is a more French colour.

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A bit of googling medieval history can help

King of France report #1
Quote: "
We accept the alliance with England, we will begin trade.

I sent emissaries to Rome with many fine tapestries and jewels and ask for the Pope's aid in taking Corsica for France.

I gather troops and send 10,000 men to conquer the land to the south of France.
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Quote: "We accept the alliance with England, we will begin trade."

The alliance offered to you AFAIK was from the jersey alliance, we are in control of wales, scotland, Ireland and a few islands near your coast.

I offer england the chance to become a vassal state and i move 2000 expeditionary troops to the new found island (iceland) to the north.
I continue my mass production of weapons and seige equipment.

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I don't think OB7 can be that large from the start.

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