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The dude guy
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 19:19
Jimi Hendrix
Jimmy Page
Steve Vai
Mick Thomson (he's not that good, but I love the pick scraping)

I'm a guitarist myself so I know what I'm talking about
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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 21:11
Boy, you can't keep a good thread down!

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Posted: 6th Nov 2006 17:40
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Posted: 6th Nov 2006 22:15
And you can't forget the Children of Bodom's guitarists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPpTolQiID0
(the solos start around 1 minute into the song)
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Posted: 6th Nov 2006 23:36
Ugh, yes i can x.x shredding is far too overrated IMO.


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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 00:10 Edited at: 7th Nov 2006 01:07
@Zoto
EVH - Rightly so. Invented the 'Hammer & Tap' among other things...

I'm adding...
Jason Becker (Steve Vai's replacement in David Lee Roth's band & now has Lou Gehrig's Disease)
&...
Django Reinhardt (Jazz player - only had three fingers on his picking hand which somehow gave him more space to play faster!)

@Dazzag
Hendrix played left handed on a right handed guitar, but strung the instrument the correct way round for left handed, this changed how his pickups were supposed to operate, which created his distinct tone.

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The dude guy
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 00:22
Quote: "Ugh, yes i can x.x shredding is far too overrated IMO.
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Shredding takes a lot of skill, especially when you're playing it like that guy was.

Have you seen Dragonforce though? 4-finger tapping is extremely hard, I've tried it >_>
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 01:43
Don't even get me started on that overrated bunch of mindless string bashers. I don't remember when music became not about emotion but about skill, really.


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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 01:54
I enjoy CoB and Dragonforce. Great bands, I mentioned them as such=D

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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 02:30
Quote: "Don't even get me started on that overrated bunch of mindless string bashers. I don't remember when music became not about emotion but about skill, really."


Then what do you call "good"? Alternative or Pop Punk bands playing nothing but power chords?
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 02:37
Quote: "Then what do you call "good"? Alternative or Pop Punk bands playing nothing but power chords?"

Yep except jazz musicians and progressive units instead =)


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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 03:04
Jazz isn't that hard once you get a hang of the types of chords they use the most, but I still think it takes a lot of skill to play.
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 03:18
Well I mean more of the improv, off the collar type jazz anyway Sure the theory is easy to get around, but its that snapshot feeling and emotion you hear when there's improv playing that I love the most.


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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 03:28
Quote: "Well I mean more of the improv, off the collar type jazz anyway Sure the theory is easy to get around, but its that snapshot feeling and emotion you hear when there's improv playing that I love the most."

Yeah I know what you're talking about, I'm hoping to get a solo in my jazz band, unfortunately the teacher wasn't expecting a guitarist =p
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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 03:35
Hah Jazz solos are fun ^_^ Benji got me into jazz really, and since then I've been dabbling in it all around.. It's really fun stuff.


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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 06:11
Through the Fury of the Storm!!

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Posted: 7th Nov 2006 12:52
Quote: "Jason Becker (Steve Vai's replacement in David Lee Roth's band & now has Lou Gehrig's Disease)
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Yus, another Jason Becker fan! I loved his style.

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Posted: 12th Nov 2006 21:53
Quote: "4-finger tapping is extremely hard"


4-finger?? Id never thought of that! 2 finger tapping is already too confusing. and whats up with that tapping thing? How come they just strum the desired string once, and could keep playing at 'a high volume' for like 30 seconds without losing the sound. I know I could increase the amp volume at all, but maybe the key is to press down harder?


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Posted: 12th Nov 2006 23:05 Edited at: 13th Nov 2006 01:39
<Never mind, misunderstood.>

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Posted: 13th Nov 2006 01:22
It's not exactly easy to do, you hammer on your fingers 2-3 times, depending how much sustain you have, then on the 4th time you somewhat lightly pull your finger off so it strums it, during tapping your pick is rendered pretty much useless.
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Posted: 13th Nov 2006 07:38
Eddie Van Halen, come on he invted hammer-pulls with eruption
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Posted: 13th Nov 2006 10:37
Quote: "during tapping your pick is rendered pretty much useless."


Unless you actually use that to tap with, but that's kinda newbie, doesn't harden your finger skin.

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Posted: 13th Nov 2006 22:54
Quote: "Eddie Van Halen, come on he invted hammer-pulls with eruption"

No he didn't But he did popularize the tapping technique with that one Micheal Jackson song I believe.


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Posted: 22nd Nov 2006 15:40
Quote: "n the 4th time you somewhat lightly pull your finger off so it strums it, during tapping"


You know, ive figured that out already, I just thought it was cheating or so


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Posted: 22nd Nov 2006 17:25 Edited at: 22nd Nov 2006 17:26
I was going to say Herman Li but from the discussion about Dragonforce I'm going to presume he was already mentioned?

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Posted: 22nd Nov 2006 18:07
Herman who?


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Posted: 23rd Nov 2006 14:27 Edited at: 23rd Nov 2006 14:29
Herman Li is one hell of a technical player. Fury of the storm is really good. You almost feel as if each person is playing 2-3 different pieces at the same time . I was working on this song of mine (which is why my game development and all has been stopped for a long time now =( ) and I was thinking of techniques to help give a recording studio-quality feel to it. Since there arent any studios around my areas at all. And I wouldnt pay a fortune just for one song . I was thinking of how you could place various objects around the input (lets say a mic infront of an amp for instance) and make it sound pure, without any extra noises. Its like when you use both hands to 'cuff' a speaker to make the volume a bit louder. I was thinking of how you could do that to get a really good quality out of the music being played.


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Posted: 25th Nov 2006 10:31
Alright lol nvm, back to topic


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Got to say Joe Satriani as the greatest all time electric guitar player.

What puts him head and shoulders above the rest is not only his virtuosity on the instrument but his musical compositions. He doesn't shred for the sake of shredding, he shreds when it's suitable because thats what the music needs. He's as subtle with the guitar as he can be brutal. He creates MUSIC, he doesn't just play music like so many others.

He's also original with the instrument, being able to incorperate lots of different effects which compliment the music, pick scrapes, wammy bar dives, tremelo picking, sweep arpegios. et all. You don't hear these effects as effects but as music.

Rarely does a guitar player move me in the way Satch does.

Simply the pinacle of guitar playing. It doesn't get any better.

I also love his song titles. Equally original.

www.satriani.com

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Posted: 25th Nov 2006 20:38
Quote: "Got to say Joe Satriani as the greatest all time electric guitar player.

What puts him head and shoulders above the rest is not only his virtuosity on the instrument but his musical compositions. He doesn't shred for the sake of shredding, he shreds when it's suitable because thats what the music needs. He's as subtle with the guitar as he can be brutal. He creates MUSIC, he doesn't just play music like so many others.

He's also original with the instrument, being able to incorperate lots of different effects which compliment the music, pick scrapes, wammy bar dives, tremelo picking, sweep arpegios. et all. You don't hear these effects as effects but as music.

Rarely does a guitar player move me in the way Satch does.

Simply the pinacle of guitar playing. It doesn't get any better.

I also love his song titles. Equally original.

www.satriani.com"

Mick Thomson does those and he's not that good
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j4S9Qtt8UU&mode=related&search=

Andres Segovia, hard to get better than him

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Posted: 25th Nov 2006 22:23
Quote: "Got to say Joe Satriani as the greatest all time electric guitar player.

What puts him head and shoulders above the rest is not only his virtuosity on the instrument but his musical compositions. He doesn't shred for the sake of shredding, he shreds when it's suitable because thats what the music needs. He's as subtle with the guitar as he can be brutal. He creates MUSIC, he doesn't just play music like so many others.

He's also original with the instrument, being able to incorperate lots of different effects which compliment the music, pick scrapes, wammy bar dives, tremelo picking, sweep arpegios. et all. You don't hear these effects as effects but as music.

Rarely does a guitar player move me in the way Satch does.

Simply the pinacle of guitar playing. It doesn't get any better.

I also love his song titles. Equally original."



Yes!! Very true indeed! Especially on his latest album. He demonstrated guitar skills like I've never seen them before. From a musical/emotional perspective. I heard him in an interview say that he thinks about each song as a situation, and sort of plays the mood and creates an atmosphere that goes perfectly well with that situation.

Steve Vai is awesome as well. And he definetly look better lol, but something about his music seems... Just a bit less that his mentor, Satch.


If any one knows an answer to my previous question please do suggest solutions.


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Posted: 26th Nov 2006 00:36
@Keemo1000

Are you talking about panning the sound to one speaker? Or perhaps making the guitar noise in one speaker and the drums in the other?
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Quote: "re you talking about panning the sound to one speaker? Or perhaps making the guitar noise in one speaker and the drums in the other?"


No its not the panning. I was just thinking of how people place pillows and some objects to sort of get the sound clearer and stronger . Ive noticed that when artists sometimes record in rooms that have cushioned walls. Maybe its to have a sound-proof effect? I just want some tips to get the best quality out of sound recording when using mics. Maybe a big, empty cardboard box should be placed behind the mic to give a sort of 'surround sound' effect? These are just thoughts lol.


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Posted: 27th Nov 2006 01:14
Oh, in that case I have no clue, but I have a $9 microphone so tell me if you have any luck with that lol
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Posted: 27th Nov 2006 06:51 Edited at: 27th Nov 2006 06:52
Quote: "No its not the panning. I was just thinking of how people place pillows and some objects to sort of get the sound clearer and stronger . Ive noticed that when artists sometimes record in rooms that have cushioned walls. Maybe its to have a sound-proof effect? I just want some tips to get the best quality out of sound recording when using mics. Maybe a big, empty cardboard box should be placed behind the mic to give a sort of 'surround sound' effect? These are just thoughts lol."


Placing pillows, foam or other things in a cabinet is done for two reasons. A) the person has no clue what the heck they are doing and saw it done before so it must be good. B) The cabinet being used is not properly designed and the amount of air in the cabinet needs to be modified. A properly designed cabinet has a set amount of air volume that is needed for different speaker set ups or for what type of throw the cabinet is supposed to have, all calculated as the cabinets Free Air Resonance. I actually wrote some software for this back on the TRS-80 for Middle-House sound around 84. I have to say I was suprised by the amount of calculations involved as I always thought you make a box cut a hole and put a speaker in it

Later when I started going out on shows with the engineers I found what a difference 2 cabinets that look identicle can have with just small difference in the cabs FAR.

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Posted: 27th Nov 2006 07:38
Quote: "No its not the panning. I was just thinking of how people place pillows and some objects to sort of get the sound clearer and stronger . Ive noticed that when artists sometimes record in rooms that have cushioned walls. Maybe its to have a sound-proof effect? I just want some tips to get the best quality out of sound recording when using mics. Maybe a big, empty cardboard box should be placed behind the mic to give a sort of 'surround sound' effect? These are just thoughts lol."

There are so many aspects to recording with a microphone, its crazy. If you want to add me to MSN: mattyATphoenixopheliaDOTcom then I can guide you through whatever you need I've studied it in school and done it quite a few times to at least give you a jump start into it


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Posted: 30th Nov 2006 20:03
Alright thanks, back to topic.

Best technical guitarist in your opinion....?


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I totaly agree with Hobgoblin Lord regarding Andres Segovia. As a classical player myself for well over a 15 years now i've gotten to know how important Segovia was in the re emergance of the classical guitar in the 20th century. He basically single handedly made the instrument popular again through his constant touring, compositions, transcriptions and general popularising of the instrument.
He also had a big influence on the invention of Nylon strings, giving valuable input on tone, feel ect. Nylon strings were a huge technological advancement over the old Cat Gut strings previously used and gave far better tone and volume.

Two more classical players which motivated me to learn the instrument were.

John Williams - probably the most famous of modern players, often quoted as having a perfect technique and also a student of Sergovia.

Julian Bream - awsome classical and Lute player. Great feeling with his playing.



I think Steve Vai deserves a mention by me also, not for his virtuosity but for his inventiveness on the electric guitar.
He can make the guitar sound like a human voice purely through his technicl playing, even a horse in Bad Horsie lol, very original. He was also great in Crossroads, a must see film for all fans of the guitar.

Talking of crossroads, the original crossroads guitar legend of Robert Johnson is worth mentioning too. Raw basic guitar blues. A a huge influence on many of todays players.

Still talking of crossroads, i read somewhere that the original legend goes all the way back to the virtuoso violinist, Pagannini who was said to have sold his soul to the devil for his virtuosity.

Anyone know if the legend dates back even further ?

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