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Pus In Boots
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 23:01
Here is a little random panel comic about the statue of liberty. I'll do another one in a few days.

C+C plz!

Enjoy-joy!

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Matt Rock
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Posted: 18th Jan 2008 23:55
aww, but New Jersey is such a pleasant sight!

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 00:17
looks alright but your artwork, especially on the face, could improve, do you use a WACOM tablet? If you do, try putting 1 sheet of normal paper over it and perhaps it will be easier to draw circles and oval like figures.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 00:42
Truth be told, that was a traced picture. The idea that I could draw my own statue of liberty; on a computer no less, is a load o' bull! I would like a graphics tablet, but that's doubtful.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 03:42 Edited at: 19th Jan 2008 03:45
the comix is great, i liek it, but u hav to fix the drawing, make it more good drawings and then fix joek make more funny k?

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 04:00
LOL @ Aikicat

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 05:36 Edited at: 19th Jan 2008 05:38
yes, I would defiantly recommend a graphics tablet, even a really small one, take a look at what I drew with my tablet in a few spare minutes. Also, forgot to mention, the humour in this comic is much better than the last one.






---edit---
My apologies, for soem reason I can't get the image to be viewable through that little button at the corner so I had to image shack it! Sorry for showing my work so largely for lack of a better word on your thread, I'll remove it if you want.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 05:41
Data, it looks just like you.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 05:49
o well thats good, I was worried that if I made it anymore weird and strange it would look to much like you!

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 05:51
He got you Benz. HE GOHT YOU.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 05:55
Yes Aikicat but I've got you, on YouTube!

Quote: "o well thats good, I was worried that if I made it anymore weird and strange it would look to much like you!"

o well lawl

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 06:05
Never thought I'd see the day when I GOT a cat member of the community =P

But don't rub it in Aikicut. Here's another pic, now who does it resemble...?

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9909/bear1ye7.jpg


YOu know...the whiskers remind me of someone...i just can't put my finger on it...=P

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 13:21
Data, those pictures look weird. I love it!

Quote: "Sorry for showing my work so largely for lack of a better word on your thread, I'll remove it if you want."


I'm not bothered. Now I must make the next comic.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 13:55
Here's todays comic. Hope you like it. (Viewing it constitutes a binding obligation to leave comments. Failure to do so will result in legal action.)

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 14:08
Nice Puss, I like The Liberty One, the second Took me A while to understand but I get it.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 16:07
I like the second one, I think the art work is much better! And the joke is good too =P

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 17:42
Yay! I'm not being flamed! Anyway, I couldn't resist making another one. You look. You laugh. You like. NOW!

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 17:53
I liked the 2nd one Although I don't quite understand why the statue of liberty is a loser
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 17:57
Doodles can make a person do crazy things

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 18:12 Edited at: 19th Jan 2008 18:16
Ok Puss, these last 2 comics... MUCH better. You should really pursue this style of characters. They are great Original and unique. Just expand on it a bit! Jokes are better too

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 18:14
Quote: "the humour in this comic is much better than the last one"

It's all relative. Your comics aren't funny. The artwork in the Statue of Liberty is not good, and the joke is neither clever or funny. The Chalkey people look better, but once again the jokes are not clever, thought out, or funny. They're more like exaggerated random social commentary that amuse you.


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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 18:22 Edited at: 19th Jan 2008 18:24
Quote: "Jokes are better too "


The jokes are terrible. They're worse than Garfield, and I thought that was as bad as it gets. You should feel bad

That said, focus your jokes on something you know inside and out. It can be very specific. Jokes from one genre of games. Jokes about coding (you should't do this one unless you know lower level languages like c, or more popular languages like php or java, so that people can relate), or even jokes about internet memes.

Point is, no one can relate to your jokes (except for people who live in the Statue of Liberty or work as a coast guard, and even they would find this comic terrible and only smirk because they have thought it


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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 18:23
@Agent Dink- glad to see I've won you over.

I may have to "convince" Cash Curtis. [cracks knuckles]

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 18:31
Quote: "The jokes are terrible. They're worse than Garfield, and I thought that was as bad as it gets. You should feel bad"


Bit harsh, isn't it?

I think most of them have an underlying relativity to said topic. They poke fun at established notions about the topic being covered. Some people think psychologists do nothing but ask how you feel about something. I've taken this and put it into the context of a joke. I thought of doing one which relates to the idea that all U.S postal workers carry guns. Some of them (like the statue of liberty) are just random. But most can be related to by the reader, if only in the most subtle way.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 18:35
There good, Garfield is nothing compared to these.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 18:38
Didn't win me over yet, but you did alot better these last 2 panels.

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Quote: "Bit harsh, isn't it?"


No, I'm gonna stand by this one. I think you can do a comic just fine, so don't get me wrong, but you do need to get a different niche, especially if your art is basic (not a rip, just saying it's nothing fancy, and that's cool). The jokes are just not going to work and it won't be funny, the jokes are all old, cliche and just plain old uninteresting.

Make something interesting that people can think about. For example, I read qwantz.com because of how interesting the topics can be (sometimes), some of the things T-Rex has said I've thought about for days. And I also get good material for get togethers with friends when we need a topic for conversation:o) (like the Reverse lightbulb jokes one if you go back a few days).


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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 18:42 Edited at: 19th Jan 2008 18:49
"Jokes" aside, you need to tighten up the art a lot. I don't know what program you're using, but a lot of lines intersect when they shouldn't (like the ladder steps on the coastguard one). Try a vector editor like Inkscape, which makes it much easier to manipulate and tweak shapes.

Quote: "You should feel bad"

Quote: "No, I'm gonna stand by this one."


I'm glad you're jumping on the "his comics stink" bandwagon, but try not to be a jerk unnecessarily in the process.

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Quote: "They poke fun at established notions about the topic being covered."

The problem is that you're just stating the obvious, you're not being clever about it.


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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 18:55
teh jokses are pertty goodum.


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Have you been eating bird crap again DrewG?


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Quote: "Have you been eating bird crap again DrewG?"

I don't think he ever stopped . The second and third comic were decent, not so much the first.


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Quote: "It's all relative. Your comics aren't funny. The artwork in the Statue of Liberty is not good, and the joke is neither clever or funny. The Chalkey people look better, but once again the jokes are not clever, thought out, or funny. They're more like exaggerated random social commentary that amuse you.

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The jokes are terrible. They're worse than Garfield, and I thought that was as bad as it gets. You should feel bad

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A little harsh there Cash Curtis and Jerico2day? Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I mean c'mon, it seems as you guys in a terrible mood and taking it out on this guy.

Quote: "Have you been eating bird crap again DrewG?
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If he's been eating bird crap then I really hate to know what you've been eating that made you so cranky. =P

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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 19:28
Can somebody explain the humour to me? I don't get the second joke

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DrewG is trying to imitate Aikicat here. Move along, nothing to see.


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Quote: "If he's been eating bird crap then I really hate to know what you've been eating that made you so cranky. "

Your mom.


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Oh dear...just watch out when saying that in England Mr Curtis...either all of the idiots in the UK like you, or you get raided by sheep.

Interesting comics, I used to draw my own little ones in year 9 - about a big nose idiot who thought he could score it with women but was a complete loser and ended up in stupid situations, with the play on title of 'hitman' ...but the drawings were never good nor the jokes particularly funny, but I was too poor to afford a sense of humour.

Drawings are little simplistic, with a bit of stylising they could be quite cool (as Cyanide and Happiness are simplistic, yet have cool style)

It takes blood and guts to be this cool, but I'm still just a cliche
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 19:48 Edited at: 19th Jan 2008 19:51
I'm not afraid to tell him that the comics are exceptionally bad. If he doesn't know, he can't fix them

And after I said he should feel bad for making them, he goes on to say that they aren't that bad. This is exactly why I told him to feel bad, cuz they are indeed very bad.

Work on it, or don't, it's all good, as long as you're creative But don't expect me or anyone else to read your comics if they remain terrible.

[edit]besides, i know you can do better, you seem to write halfway intelligent, just gotta work on making things funny. Instead of starting off, try reading through some good comics for a few weeks.

Here's a fairly comprehensive list:

http://www.fullyramblomatic.com/features/goodcomics.htm


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I like those last two much better - including the humour. Yes, I think there is humour - it's a bit simple humour, but it's humour. It's also quite a funny style - I like it. Like said, try to think out your jokes a second or two longer.


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Also, you should learn to use punctuation on jokes to make them read the way you want. I couldn't get the third one until a figured out how it should be read. Tips:

*To make a long pause try to make a line break and comma after the word you want to pause on. E.X


*The joke can be divided into the setup part and the funny part. Try not to use contractions on the setup since you want to make that part longer. E.X


*Sometimes a period is not enough. E.X


*A comma makes a upward inflexion, use a comma without anything after(or ...) to make it seem like you will finish but don't.


and thus ends my quick lesson.

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Quote: "Quote: "If he's been eating bird crap then I really hate to know what you've been eating that made you so cranky. "
Your mom."


o my......


@ Jeku

the humor in the last comic is supposed to play on the fact that counsellors always ask "and how do you feel about that." So in his comic the guy just said he feels angry and the counsellor asks him how does that make him feel....

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I gotted it.


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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 21:02 Edited at: 19th Jan 2008 21:04
These are hilarious.



They really are.
But no, the art is subpar and the humour is hardly biting.

Shove your shitty MMORPG idea and get me a drink.
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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 21:02
Well, it would seem we are now divided into two groups: The Flamers and the Forumers. Its comforting to know I'm not on my own here, yet Cash Curtis' comments are borderlining on verbal abuse. The fact that he continues to berate fellow forumers at the slightest mention that they don't share the same view as him is astonishing. All DrewG said was that the jokes are pretty good and he gets attacked for it! anyway...

Now, let's answer the questions you're all asking.
1) Drawings must be better- I will constantly be reminding you that the drawings will never be brilliant, but I will work on the niggles and keep developing the style until I have something unique. This won't happen overnight, but I will always be trying to improve.
2) Humour too simple- As someone who's new to 1-panel comics, I'm still finding the balance between clever humour and an easy understanding of the joke. I do know how to do clever jokes, I'm just finding the best way to apply them to a 1-panel comic, as I'm used to doing 15-page issues. I won't strive for newspaper type comics, but I will improve the pacing and intellect.
3)Inconsistent subject matter- I think I prefer it this way. Without the constrictions of having to spoof a specific game- or whatever, I can openly approach anything that can be related to by the reader. Or sometimes I may do a completely random one. This way, I will never run out of comics to make.

Oh, and for anyone else who wants to tell me my comic is crap, try to atleast be constructive. Jericho was making sense when you get past the "you should be ashamed of yourself" bit.

And anyone who wants to tell me my comics awesome, then all I can say is: knock yourself out!


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Quote: ""you should be ashamed of yourself""
Haha maybe I took it too far

Anyways, you can still remain in a niche but go off on tangents. It can be broad, even. Look at xkcd.com, that guy makes comics that appeal to geeks (and a bit of mathematicians specifically). If that's not broad I don't know what is.

What you should try to do is be concise, but don't be afraid of complex jokes. And why only one panel? These are very restrictive and very hard to pull off time and time again.

Try doing the standard 4 panel layout. First panel the setup, 2nd, explanation, 3rd is resolution, 4 is punchline. Mix and match to your taste.


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Posted: 19th Jan 2008 21:21
Jericho & Dr Schnitzengruber:
Thanks for the advice.

I considered doing 4 panel comics, but decided against it because:

I want to think of my comic in 20 minutes and draw it in no more than 40.

I already have Robo, which has quite a few more than 4-panels.

These are meant to be little bitesize comics to help pass the time and help prepare me for the ever-looming Robo release. I take everything I learn from here home with me and invest it in Robo. At some point, I may step the comics up to 4-panels, but there's no hurry.

Bottom line, I just prefer it this way.

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Quote: "I want to think of my comic in 20 minutes and draw it in no more than 40."

Ah. We may have hit the problem there.


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Note that these comics aren't meant to be a huge deal. They're diversions at their core. I don't feel the need to invest more time in them.

Rest assured, the same CANNOT be said for Robo.

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Posted: 20th Jan 2008 01:16 Edited at: 20th Jan 2008 01:20
Quote: "Have you been eating bird crap again DrewG?"


zomg, SIGGED

Edit: No particular reason.

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I think everyone should have a funny sig about DrewG, but that's just me.

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enough talk... lets just get the next one already.


(I personally like the one panel and simple joke style. Funny, not in a laugh really hard way, but in a giggle kind of way.)

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