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General Jackson
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Posted: 16th Nov 2009 02:12
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That would be great.
You need to make the grid bigger for the Map editor too.
And like 50 layers would be awesome.
I did that myself, but there is something dreadfully wrong when I did it.
It would take 20 minutes for it to start loading, then about an hour to load all the way with just one segment.

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Thanks, missed that.

Hope This Helps
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Do I really need directX10 june 2007 to run v 1.16?

I'm getting that error message when I try to open FPSC. I doubt this is a fenix mod problem but it may be, because this is V116 and the map editor source is included.

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ok couple things

First one:
When i place a char and use body script it works, But it takes a few for the wasd animations to take affect befor it shows it as walking. So for a short while it shows sliding, Tested with a few other toon's might just be me.

Last thing: I was told to take out the arms i looked threw the dds texture files and can not see where to take them out.

Working well, Great Job! Have not tested Dark AI yet, But i will let you know. Frame rates only at 28-30 thoe had to adjust speed of char.

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Righto, those zombie scripts make it a little less redicilous, but you should add a command that makes it run to melee range because they're trying to chop my head off from the other side of the room when I walk away from them... Then again they ARE braindead zombie things... so yeaaaaaah.


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I've been playing around with the AI and it's quite nice, if you don't mind I've a couple of comments. I think that the AI's should run forward if they are over a certain distance away, they look a little as if they are wandering around lost at the moment.

Also, the allies are a little stupid, they tend to face towards you even when being shot in the back.

That said, I think that what you've achieved is an excellent start and I'm looking forward to the future for this mod. Great work.
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any one have my problem?

my directx10 problem?

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Quote: "any one have my problem"


Sorry, no...
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sheesh. It's not fair to XP users that FPSC X9 needs X10


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Posted: 16th Nov 2009 21:55 Edited at: 16th Nov 2009 21:56
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Quote: "sheesh. It's not fair to XP users that FPSC X9 needs X10
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It doesn't need direct x10.....


Quote: "Righto, those zombie scripts make it a little less redicilous, but you should add a command that makes it run to melee range because they're trying to chop my head off from the other side of the room when I walk away from them... Then again they ARE braindead zombie things... so yeaaaaaah."


Well I wasn't going to do all the work for you, you can script it so they'll work right. If you don't know how you'll have to wait till after the VBOTB when i release the scripts to all.

Quote: "Frame rates only at 28-30 thoe had to adjust speed of char."


Hmm nobody else has had this issue please post your computer specs and also if frames continue to be low try closing fpsc opening the setup.ini and changing the hsrmode to =1

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Quote: "Well I wasn't going to do all the work for you, you can script it so they'll work right. If you don't know how you'll have to wait till after the VBOTB when i release the scripts to all."

I'm an idiot when it comes to FPI scripting, yet I can program... Irony.


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Quote: "It doesn't need direct x10....."


then why do I get an error message saying I need directX10 june 2007 when ever I try to use FPSC?

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Quote: "then why do I get an error message saying I need directX10 june 2007 when ever I try to use FPSC?
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I can tell you right now that you don't need dx10, try reinstalling 1.16

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I did. no luck.

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Quote: "I did. no luck."


erm and not even the stock v1.16 works? I would email Lee about this.

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I emailed the order support.

I haven't installed the mod yet.

this is wrong. I hope at least.

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Quote: "this is wrong. I hope at least.
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Trust me it wasn't intended

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lol good. do you not have any ideas how this is possibel?

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Quote: "lol good. do you not have any ideas how this is possibel?"


Well Lee merged editor data from both x9 and x10 so I have a feeling a message from the x10 part is being incorrectly executed.

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Posted: 17th Nov 2009 04:27
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Also people please don't forget to test RPG Mod's features.

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oh, how do I change the execution?

will directX10 work on my X9 computer and graphics card.

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Quote: "oh, how do I change the execution?

will directX10 work on my X9 computer and graphics card."

You can't, it's somewhere hidden deep within the source code.

And no, DirectX10 does NOT work on a DirectX9 computer or hardware.


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so what do I do?

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I get kinda this issue max fpsc=35
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Quote: "so what do I do?"

Pray to god he'll be mercifull and let someone fix this almighty blasphemy?


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ok...

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Quote: "I get kinda this issue max fpsc=35"


Does the fps drain easy or does it take a lot to bring it down?

Quote: "so what do I do?"


Ill take a look at the source to see what I can do about disabling it (if its in the map data given).

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nvm. I fixed it

DarkAI is lovely.

the enemies:

GOOD: take cover
shoot often
can be killed by ally
BAD: don't usually see you or your ally unless you shoot them
Often go for you more than the ally

the allies:

GOOD: take cover
usually don't miss
can kill enemies well
BAD: will not shoot enemies in favor of looking at you
takes a lot to get him to spot enemies
doesn't oftem move when long range or medium range fighting


needless to say, I loved it. a cool thing to do, because FPSC doesnt have flinch anims, is to give the ally low health, and lots of respawns. this makes it more realistic instead of him absorbing his weight in lead every time he and an enemy get up close and personal.

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bug allert...when i try dark ai script it crashes...say's dark ai error...can i be saved??

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Quote: "bug allert...when i try dark ai script it crashes...say's dark ai error...can i be saved??"


Please provide the full error report.

Quote: "DarkAI is lovely.

the enemies:

GOOD: take cover
shoot often
can be killed by ally
BAD: don't usually see you or your ally unless you shoot them
Often go for you more than the ally

the allies:

GOOD: take cover
usually don't miss
can kill enemies well
BAD: will not shoot enemies in favor of looking at you
takes a lot to get him to spot enemies
doesn't oftem move when long range or medium range fighting"


Thanks, I have ideas on how to fix the "BAD"(s)

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well it works quite well in my town level. except for one enemy who just wont shoot you unless you shoot him first.

I also like how the ally won't follow you in doors. that's helpful because I want my player to get ambushed and It'd be stupid if the ally was there to kill them instantly.

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General Jackson
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Posted: 18th Nov 2009 00:53
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ya know, that AI error is just if you set up their scripts incorrectly.
I had it a few times and each time I realized it was because i forgot to give them the new darkai appear script.
Always.

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Few spots ago there was mention about the ally being to far away from the enemy. Wondering if anyone had a workaround for this?

Dark Ai is fun, But the allys dont always see the enemy so they dont help half the time lol. As for changing hsrmode when i did that it drop me down to like 12 fps.

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I thinking about using this mod but I need to know one thing first,
which versions of FPSC can you have for the mod to work properly (example: 1.09 -1.16)

What you see isn't always real....
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Does anyone else get a silent crash without error message while building a game or is it just me?


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So i have been testing this mod further, And i ran into 2 things with just normal sized levels. I placed a few buildings plants etc. First one is when i hit the test game button it does it thing "Adding entities..." etc it cycles threw it again for a second time after "Saving and optimizing.." (there goes another feww minutes) Now keep in mind that was without lights.

As soon as i added lights it crashed (attached screen). This was only with 4 lights added. Also it is mapping all objects for lights?? just for the 4 lights it must of took 10 minutes. Tried stock and other mod no probs. Anyways just thought i would report what i found.

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General Jackson
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Posted: 18th Nov 2009 21:02
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Yes it loads the building portals and forwards twice for me as well, even in stock 1.16

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me too, but it doesnt glitch up. all my levels work perfectly

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Quote: "Yes it loads the building portals and forwards twice for me as well, even in stock 1.16"


As it should, Lee put this in for (i believe) object culling, it builds somethings twice but no worries the duplicates are deleted before start of test game.

Quote: "So i have been testing this mod further, And i ran into 2 things with just normal sized levels. I placed a few buildings plants etc. First one is when i hit the test game button it does it thing "Adding entities..." etc it cycles threw it again for a second time after "Saving and optimizing.." (there goes another feww minutes) Now keep in mind that was without lights.

As soon as i added lights it crashed (attached screen). This was only with 4 lights added. Also it is mapping all objects for lights?? just for the 4 lights it must of took 10 minutes. Tried stock and other mod no probs. Anyways just thought i would report what i found."



Please provide me with a FPM using stock media.

Quote: "Does anyone else get a silent crash without error message while building a game or is it just me?"


Try building the simple.fpm

Quote: "which versions of FPSC can you have for the mod to work properly (example: 1.09 -1.16)"


It uses V1.16

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Quote: "Try building the simple.fpm"

Already did, also just tried a clean install but it messed up again.


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Quote: "Already did, also just tried a clean install but it messed up again."


Have you tried stock?

(by the way how did you build your horror1 game?)

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Quote: "Have you tried stock?

(by the way how did you build your horror1 game?)"

Stock worked fine, and so did Fenix before. So I don't quite get what's going on.


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is there a special way to add recoil or is it the normal air mod way? I still need to test it.

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normal airmod way. add it in the gunspec

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thanx bugsy. I am trying to make money pickups and stuff for you guys.

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Fenix Mod Suggestion:

scriptable camera and blur effects.

for the camera control, you could do things like bobbing side to side when walking, tilts on it's side when you die etc.

for the blur control, you could make it get more blured depending on how low health you have. (or of course motion blur )

i don't know how hard it would be, but then again you are managing to put Dark AI into FPSC.

hope this comes into consideration

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Quote: "Fenix Mod Suggestion:

scriptable camera and blur effects.

for the camera control, you could do things like bobbing side to side when walking, tilts on it's side when you die etc.

for the blur control, you could make it get more blured depending on how low health you have. (or of course motion blur )

i don't know how hard it would be, but then again you are managing to put Dark AI into FPSC.

hope this comes into consideration"



That would actually be pretty complicated....

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Yet it would be cool

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Sorry for this double post, but I HAVE to get number 1000

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I may have to try this out now that Dark AI is in it...

Oh, and General Jackson - I got the 1000th.

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