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Predator boy
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Posted: 29th May 2006 07:30
personnaly i'm goin with ps3 because it has blue ray tech wich can hold more stuff i cant really remeber but here's a site with all the info you need. [href]www.ps3land.com[/href]

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Posted: 29th May 2006 07:33
PS3. No contest.


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Posted: 29th May 2006 07:34
your buying a console based on its storage device?

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Predator boy
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Posted: 29th May 2006 07:34
no not really im just a bigger fan of sony and ps3 has more stuff to do the 360!

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Posted: 29th May 2006 08:15 Edited at: 29th May 2006 08:16
No contest. Playstation is a stronger console with more developers backing its play. Besides, its cooler looking than the 360 and looks are everything

Oh yeah, and who was it that said the PS3 wasn't backwards compatible? Because Sony has repeatedly said it's fully backwards compatible with every PS1 and PS2 game ever made. Just thought I'd mention that.


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Posted: 29th May 2006 08:15
Well the PS2 did years ago what the 360 is doing now, just with not as good of graphics. I'm thinking that the PS3 probably does everything but your dishes considering how much the PS2 had to offer. Plus lots of people are already sending their 360s in for repairs already, and it's made by evil Microsoft. So for me, PS3 of course.
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Posted: 29th May 2006 08:49
For the price buy a new computer or 4 SLI GPU's or something. consoles are teh suxorz


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Posted: 29th May 2006 09:26
Quote: "ps3 has more stuff to do the 360!"


Um, the PS3 isn't out yet.

Let's see---

Xbox 360 - $399
PS3 - $599
Wii - Under $250

The PS3 and 360 look like they will offer nothing new except better graphics. At least the Wii will offer cooler control capabilities.

I am buying a 360 next week, and I will never buy a Sony game console. I just don't trust that they know what the gamers want.

I can forgive them for removing the vibration from the PS3 controller, but now they're trying to stop stores from allowing PS3 preorders. And, if you look at history, *every* single game console that was released for $599 or more (in today's dollars) has failed a miserable death.

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Posted: 29th May 2006 09:41
Quote: "*every* single game console that was released for $599 or more (in today's dollars) has failed a miserable death."

This isn't a Turbographx 16 or a 3DO... this is a Sony Playstation console. The only way to kill Playstation sales is to hunt down Ken Kutaragi and remove his head or destroy his brain. I'll bet good money that within one year of its release date it will have outsold the 360. And when that price drops to $299 it'll be unstoppable, until the next generation anyway... there's no telling what Microsoft or Nintendo will do. But I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that Sony has officially won round 3 of the post Nintendo/ Sega console wars. I think that the only way the PS3 will be beaten out by the competition this time around (with the exception of the afforementioned Shaun of the Dead reference) would be if developers decided not to make games for the PS3... and with so many big-name developers already claiming their allegiance to the PS3, including John Carmack, Sid Meier, Hideo Kojima (big surprise there), and the Housers, I'm pretty sure their safe in that department. I'm sure the price tag will slow them down a bit, but not enough to stop them. See? Sony is a big corporation and I love them hehe


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Posted: 29th May 2006 09:57
I'd go 360.... I agree with Jeku, i dont think they have enough games that are wanted by gamers.. Sure you get your platformers like Jak and Daxter, socom etc.. But i find having a lot of decent titles are better than having 1 or 2 really good ones.

I already have a 360 and i'm pretty pleased with it, i wish there were more games, but if you look at a recent statement by bill gates he says there will be 240+ games for the xbox 360 by christmas time of this year. To tell you the truth, i'll believe it when i see it.. in any case, it sounds good on paper.

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Posted: 29th May 2006 09:58
I pick PC, hands down! Consoles are a waste of money.

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hmm....

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Posted: 29th May 2006 10:57
Give me more credit than that, lol. It's my girlfriend, she's fascinated by the forums for some god-aweful reason jk

Sony has (by far and unarguably) the largest catalog of games available. Period. If they do with the PS3 what they've done with the PSX and PS2, which I'm sure they'll do, then the Playstation is going to have the bigger catalog of games. Just making it backwards-compatible already makes it have more games. And let's not forget... 360 has Halo, Fable, and Elder Scrolls, which is great if you're into sci-fi fantasy stuff (personally, I'll take killing humans over dragons and aliens any day of the week). We've got the entire GTA line (which are always released on the Playstation first, and with the next gen, they might not be released on any other console at all, seeing as how Rockstar has pushed for only Playstation releases so far), Metal Gear, the new Getaway game (borderline photo-realism, can't wait for that one), and an army of other titles.

Quote: "i dont think they have enough games that are wanted by gamers"

The Playstation has always been the number one console in terms of sales. The only reason the 360 is outselling it is because the PS3 isn't out yet. You don't get to be number one if people don't like the games you have on your console. If these rumors about Rockstar not releasing the GTA series on the 360 are true, I think that's going to hurt the 360 enough that we won't see a 720

Speaking of GTA, I want to take a moment say YEAH BABY, EAT IT A while back, before Liberty City Stories was released, I had a huge arguement with someone (who had support from multiple others) about the future of GTA games following the San Andreas release. I said (this is not a direct quote because I can't find the thread this arguement was posted in, otherwise I'd be rubbing in their face via e-mail lol)
Quote: "The next GTA will take place in Liberty City. They go Liberty City, Vice City, San Andreas, in that order, and anyone who played the first, old-school GTA and saw GTA 3 and GTA VC should have guessed that San Andreas will be the next logical step"


Everyone told me I was wrong, and crazy, and I didn't know what I was talking about. Then Liberty City Stories came out on the PSP, then as a port on the PS2. I wish I could remember the people who were arguing with me so I could say HA! EAT IT! This tells me that one of three things will happen with the next GTA. Please be sure to remember that I called it:

1. It will take place in the state of Liberty, modeled after New York State and parts of New Jersey. It'll be bigger than San Andreas and will feature GTA-versions of NYC, Atlantic City, Niagara Falls, and a few others (probably Syracuse, Binghamton, Ithaca, and other major NYS cities)

2. It'll take place in Vice City and emulate Florida and parts of the Carribean (sp?)... take a boat to an island, stuff like that.

~ Or ~

3. It will feature all three cities on a huge world map where you can drive, fly, or boat between said cities.

When GTA 3 came out, I told everyone "the next GTA will take place in Vice City." No one believed me, oh look, I was right. Then, I said the next one will be in San Andreas. Again, no one believed me, again, oh look, I was right. Don't be that guy who thinks I'm wrong this time, because I'll bet large sums of money that I'm 115% right. It'll probably be either 2 or 3 moreso than 1, and 3 is more likely than 2, but history repeats itself with Rockstar, so put your money on 2. And remember, I said it first

Sorry, just had to point that out. Being the token TGC radical extremist I tend to be wrong more often than not, lol... it's good to be king for a few days


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Posted: 29th May 2006 12:22 Edited at: 29th May 2006 12:23
Let's have a post dissection fight! (just kidding!)

Quote: "Sony has (by far and unarguably) the largest catalog of games available. Period. If they do with the PS3 what they've done with the PSX and PS2, which I'm sure they'll do, then the Playstation is going to have the bigger catalog of games"

Too bad their massive catalog has such a larger percentage of trashy games than the others.

Quote: "And let's not forget... 360 has Halo, Fable, and Elder Scrolls, which is great if you're into sci-fi fantasy stuff (personally, I'll take killing humans over dragons and aliens any day of the week). We've got the entire GTA line (which are always released on the Playstation first, and with the next gen, they might not be released on any other console at all, seeing as how Rockstar has pushed for only Playstation releases so far), Metal Gear, the new Getaway game (borderline photo-realism, can't wait for that one), and an army of other titles."

You seem to forget that Xbox had games like Freedom Fighters, Chronicles of Riddick, and Pariah, and 360 has Call of Duty 2, the Suffering, and had Grand Theft Auto IV announced for it at E3.

Quote: "The Playstation has always been the number one console in terms of sales. The only reason the 360 is outselling it is because the PS3 isn't out yet. You don't get to be number one if people don't like the games you have on your console."

It depends on your demographic. Sony marketed playstation as hip and edgy and all the 14-25 year olds went crazy and decided to never look back. I own a PS2 solely so I could play FF10, Ico, and MGS3. I have MGS Twin Snakes for GC and MGS2 Substance for Xbox. If I had any other choice I would not have gotten the PS2. Sony's market dominance from their marketing campaign has caused all the developers to latch on to what is sure to be an easy money train. *Sniff sniff* I smell trashy games on the horizon.

As said by Peter Moore, get 2 better machines for the price of one.


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Posted: 29th May 2006 13:02
Wii.

Well probably a 360 as well, but really the only console I plan to buy as soon as is a Wii.

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Posted: 29th May 2006 16:04
360 when halo 3 launches, i would never get the ps3 - have you heard about he license for games they are doing, they way that you can never sell the games on to anyone, thats stupid


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Posted: 29th May 2006 16:41
you can do it illegally also ive heard that they might not charge for online play....i heard that a while ago so i don't know if it changed.

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Posted: 29th May 2006 17:49 Edited at: 29th May 2006 17:54
Quote: " *every* single game console that was released for $599 or more (in today's dollars) has failed a miserable death."


Isn't that what the PS2 cost when it came out?

Also, some of you need to stop being so biased. Just because the PS2 was a success doesn't mean the PS3 is going to dominate the market the nanosecond it hits the shelves.


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Posted: 29th May 2006 18:10
Especially not since Xbox 360 has been already available for a year when the PS3 launches.

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Posted: 29th May 2006 18:44 Edited at: 29th May 2006 18:46
I mainly choose Playstations and Nintendos because of just better overall games....I dont like XBOX, and think microstealmymoneysoftly should just stick to operating systems...Becuase Iam not a fan of Non Asian Games (Most FPS dont count)....points at games like Freedom Fighters, Chronicles of Riddick, Fable, ATV something, Playboy Mansion, Leisure Suit Larry, Elder Scrolls III, II, I and not including Oblivion...and Unreal Tournament, Quake...Everquest...etc...


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Quote: "Becuase Iam not a fun of Non Asian Games"


Well that's being rather narrow...you're missing out on half the industry dude.



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Well , I like Mario...Final Fantasy...um..Armored Core.....er..I like Battlefield 2


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As I said, you're missing out on a huge amount of great games. Plus ignoring the non-asian market is just...stupid and bizzare. Didn't you play any Blizzard games? O_o


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Posted: 29th May 2006 19:09
PC ftw!

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why does it matter which console "wins"? none of them are going the way of the dreamcast, and i doubt that one of them will have an enormous lead over the other.

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Posted: 29th May 2006 19:30
I'm going with Sony because they have Real Time Weapon Changing in their games...

Now to be serious, I'll stick with the 360. Sony lies waaay too much about their consoles. Where's our 7 controllers? Our 3 ethernet ports? What happened to them saying they weren't going to release two different versions of the PS3?

Plus their free online thing is going to be a joke compared to XBox Live. Sony just can't compete with Live's online service.

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Posted: 29th May 2006 19:34
If someone ever conned my soul I would find it little consolation to be given a console.

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I dont like Blizzard games ;/....I try them before I say I dont like them, and I dont like them


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Posted: 29th May 2006 20:12
Quote: "If these rumors about Rockstar not releasing the GTA series on the 360 are true, I think that's going to hurt the 360 enough that we won't see a 720 "


Bear said it already, but GTA IV is coming out on 360 the same day it is being released for Ps3. =/

Anyways, I'll be getting a free one so to me price won't really matter, however I feel that it's too much. The technology is expensive, but it's going to hurt Sony more than anything. Wii60 is a great example, those are just plain embarrasing, and sure as hell don't justify the purchase of the system. Sure it has some promising games (FXIII Versus, Assassin's Creed, Resistance: Fall of Man) but alot of them just look boring and bland. Mind you they look boring and bland, next-gen style. Plus Sony's showing desperation by having to mimick Nintendo's ideas, six degrees of motion. Pfft.

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I think the playstation games are far inferior to the Xbox games and always will be. I do like the idea of the Wii remote but I've never really been a fan of Nintendo.

I'm probably not going to buy a console, I never have done since the PSX. I've got a PC, I don't need anything else .
However, If I did decide to buy a console, I'd wait to see what the PS3 and Wii had to offer when they'd been released, before making my mind up.

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Posted: 29th May 2006 20:31
Quote: "and with the next gen, they might not be released on any other console at all, seeing as how Rockstar has pushed for only Playstation releases so far"


You are talking out of your butt. The 360 is going to be released on the 360 at the same time as PS3.

Quote: "Isn't that what the PS2 cost when it came out?"


Not even close. It was $500 CDN, so that would probably be around $399 US back in 2000 when it was released.

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Posted: 29th May 2006 20:39
ill probably get them all becouse if you look at it they are all great.

PS3- Bluray, and cool graphics (sorry about the spelling )

XBOX360- Xbox live, HALO 3, cool graphics, very powerful stuff.

Wii- a very new concept, cool controler, Zelda, cheap, small and can fit anywhere (well almost )



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I've never liked the Sony consoles. The PSX had horrid graphics, and the PS2 was weaker than the Dreamcast despite a later release. In both cases, Sony commercialized them pre-release as having photo-realistic graphics and ultra-1337-color-graphix.
The PS3 promises nothing new afaik, and will probably be to costly for me. Wii looks more interesting, but I'll just save up and buy a better PC.

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what amazes me is, how people are judging the ps3 when it even sodding out yet. jeez get back to reality, xbox 360 is the only current next gen console out.

judge a console when it comes out, not by reviews and hype. i sure hope the ps3 flops, bit like the xbox360 in japan.

if you got money to burn, buy a 360 and get a hdtv, that alone will make you glad you have the console right now.

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Quote: "Especially not since Xbox 360 has been already available for a year when the PS3 launches."

Sega released the Dreamcast a year before the PS2 All that means is that people will have more money saved up to buy the PS3.

If you guys are so adamant that the PS3 will fail, I'm willing to start taking bets. 360 is doomed the minute PS3 hits the market, and I'll bet any of you large sums of money that not only are you dead-wrong about PS3 not winning this round (as they ALWAYS do), but you're also dead-wrong about the PS3 not being able to outperform the 360 (read the link in my thread above... it's no secret). Microsoft lost this round (again) and their only hope of sustaining life is the Halo 3 release.

And about GTA: I'm not talking out of my butt... Sam Houser said that in multiple interviews last summer. Every time we start discussing GTA, it turns out I'm right, and still no one is smart enough to back my play oh well, we'll just need to see


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bah ps3 fanboys on products that aint even out yet!

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Quote: "Every time we start discussing GTA, it turns out I'm right, and still no one is smart enough to back my play "


You're not understanding what I'm saying. Peter Moore said at the E3 conference that GTA 4 is being released on both console simultaneously and it was confirmed by Rockstar. There's no argument there

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I like PS2 and XBox equally.
My favourite console ever was the original Playstation.

Let's just wait and see shall we? It's common sense that you can't argue about which ones better - WHEN ONE OF THEM ISNT EVEN OUT YET! Jeez...

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Posted: 29th May 2006 23:59 Edited at: 30th May 2006 00:05
@Eureka Seven
What makes you think blu-ray is so great i mean it's not like sony created something called beta max or anything.

I'm not saying that blu-ray is exactly the next beta max but i sure as hell won't be jumping on the sony fan wagon until after i see how well it does. So while you sony fanboys wait patiently for the supposed beast that is ps3, i hope for your sake you guys aren't going to get screwed over with a beat format.

Another thing ps3 games have yet to list pricing the talk is they are going to be more not because of quality but because since the media is closer to the surface of the disk. This means that the disk will need to be specially coated and apparently that coating will increase the cost of manufacturing the disk although also make them more resilient.

Extremely new tech like that scares me for the simple fact no one knows what form of media is going to prevail in the war, this is the main reason i will be waiting on purchasing a ps3 if i even do.

Edit This is exactly the same reason i won't be running out to but a hd-dvd drive for the 360 as soon as it's released either as blu-ray could be the next choice format for media.

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I'm getting Wii and I already own 360. I can't wait for PC - 360 Gaming that they showed during e3!

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i have a 360, and P3 i wouldnt bother with... 360 games (such as Oblivion and Halo 3 and Call of Duty 3) are much more fun anyway.

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Quote: "360 games...are much more fun anyway."


HOLY SCHNIT YOU HAVENT EVEN PLAYED ANY PS3 GAMES YET STFU!

Jeez you guys.

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I quote again my absolutely valid and ingenious opinion on the matter:

Quote: "Let's just wait and see shall we? It's common sense that you can't argue about which ones better - WHEN ONE OF THEM ISNT EVEN OUT YET! Jeez..."


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Also, I support both XBox and PS2 equally, so I am not a Sony or XBox fanboy.

[Edit] Yes Benjamin I know there is an edit button. In the heat of the moment I ... I posted OUT OF CONTROL!!! etc...

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There is an edit button you know.

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Posted: 30th May 2006 01:24
I understand Drew's out of control behaviour. I absolutely hate when people do a vs. on game machines before one or more are released.

Gaming magazines are the absolute *worst* offenders of this. I used to subscribe to Next Gen magazine where every 3 or 4 months they would do a X vs. Y vs. Z roundup, and there was often only one or two of them available. It was all hype and fluff--- no reality.

However, I *predict* that the PS3 won't be a smash.

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Way to triple post.
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Drew didn't triple post to be annoying, he triple posted so that you dorks out there would stop doing what you're doing wrong.


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too many sony fanboys on here dont you guys know that there is noone supporting blueray its too expensive and not necessary for all that space not to mention that there are like only 12 release titles for the ps3 and the 360 had like 20-30 on top of that the live service of the 360 is better organised and cheaper plus micrsoft have all the deals and companys under them sony will burn.

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Location: Binghamton NY USA
Posted: 30th May 2006 07:04
Quote: "too many sony fanboys on here dont you guys know that there is noone supporting blueray its too expensive and not necessary for all that space not to mention that there are like only 12 release titles for the ps3 and the 360 had like 20-30 on top of that the live service of the 360 is better organised and cheaper plus micrsoft have all the deals and companys under them sony will burn"

You're talking about what? You lost me, because everywhere I look I see that the PS3 will have more games. I've yet to see anything to debate that, other than unsupported rumor. Sony isn't going to fail because they have a larger installed fanbase than the other two consoles combined, and a whole bunch of developers are already working on titles. The one I'm most anxious to see is Carmacks, who pledged allegiance to the PS3 a year ago... I'm dying to see what he's developing. Has he made any console games before? Anyway, point is, every time a new Playstation comes out, some Xbox or Nintendo fanboys try to denounce it before it's released, and when the console comes out and conquers the market, they turn toward bashing it for any little thing they can find to whine about. If you like 360, fine, that's your deal. But don't just think the PS3 is going to do bad because you're hoping it will. Jeku so far is the only person whose put up a decent arguement, from what I can tell.


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