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Geek Culture / PS3 vs XBox 360 (Elite)

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Chenak
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Posted: 26th Sep 2007 14:54
That was fantastic
Libervurto
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Posted: 26th Sep 2007 18:57
That was cool

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Posted: 27th Sep 2007 22:20
Damn, that was good. I think he pretty much hit all the bad points of each console. But seriously guys, at LEAST there's still violence and tits. Am I right?

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Posted: 27th Sep 2007 22:26
Fully ramblomatic is bloody great, i eagerly await each new episode every week

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 03:51 Edited at: 29th Sep 2007 03:55
Sunnykatt's Opinion corner!
yay!

Miscellaneous notes:
Blu ray = pointless (i agree)
motion sensing = slightly pointless

Graphics (scale of 1 to ten)
360 --------------------- 6
Wii -------------------- 2
Ps3 --------------------- 9

(god quit saying ps3 graphics are only a bit better, the ps3 is a freakin powerhouse.)

Games (out currently)
360 -------------------- 8
Wii -------------------- 6
Ps3 -------------------- 6
(halo 3 is amazing...)

Cost (heres where ps3 takes a slamming, higher the worse)
360 -------------------- 7
Wii -------------------- 5
ps3 -------------------- 9
a car ------------------ 10

EDIT: another catagory!
Excersise/family fun
360 ------------------- 6
Ps3 ------------------- 6
Wii ------------------- 9

Potential
360 -------------------- 8
Wii -------------------- 7
Ps3 -------------------- 9
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The best bet...
Get the 360 if................ Your a hardcore halo fan and/or hate sony and/or are not willing to wait for the ps3 price to eventually drop.
Get the wii if................ You like having a ton of people over for a big good time party.
Get the ps3 if................ You hate microsoft and/or you are a super duper serious gamer and/or you just love the playstations and/or you hate the xbox360 controller and/or... well other reasons involving corny speaches about "the power of the ps3" or you are waiting for the bulk of the games to get here. whew.


NOTE: I have played every system. alot. And these are my gathered opinions. I am not overly a fan of one system, I am neutral. The end.

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 09:47
Quote: "Graphics (scale of 1 to ten)
360 --------------------- 6
Wii -------------------- 2
Ps3 --------------------- 9

(god quit saying ps3 graphics are only a bit better, the ps3 is a freakin powerhouse.)"


Based on what?

Shouldn't this be:

360 .................. 10
Wii .................. 8
PS3 .................. 10

Where 10 is the cutting edge of graphics and 1 is basic 2D.

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 09:51
@OBese87
The one that's better is the one that you like to play more. For example. IMO, Xbox 360 is better because you can develop for it, AND it's cheaper... At the same time the PS3 is better because that's what Kingdom Hearts 3 is gonna be likely to come out on (Plus Genji: Days of the Blade is already out on it). (KH3 might not come out, it's just rumors, but if it does come out, PS3 is likely target)


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Zombie 20
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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 11:36
Quote: "or you are a super duper serious gamer "


Oh thats it Zombie's f****ing pissed right now. A serious gamer? Excuse me, so I suppose that anyone who plays the games on the wii or the 360 are not hardcore gamers? The VC Console offers out all of Big N's past, and the games that would make your hands bleed these days, TP was amazing as was mp3, super mario galaxy will have you playing for hours looking for hidden content.

On to the 360, mmm..hardcore, offering up a challenge worthy of using more than 1% of your reflexes- Gears of War on Insane difficulty, higher levels of geometry wars, Dead Rising trying to last for seven days with nearly no provisions and everyone is an enemy, COD, Halo, Morrowind, Fable...list goes on brotha.

I do not hate ms, I do not hate sony, and I damn sure don't hate Big N, but the fact that you would dare to generalize "serious" hardcore gamers to one system is highly insulting. I suppose all of these arcade classics are no longer extreme either.

As far as the ps3 goes, when sony shows me something that is actually playable besides motorstorm, they will not be in my good graces, I don't care if it looks good enough for them to be right next to me..if it ain't fun I'm not playing it.

BE careful labeling gamers, there are those older ones like me that have played a lot of systems and I for one don't like having all of that just cast aside for a black box that isn't really that great anyway.

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 11:53
Alright, let's tone it down a little, Zombie.

If the thread decends any further into a This Console is better than That Console war, it'll be locked.
If you want to keep the thread open, keep it up with civilized conversation

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Zombie 20
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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 11:57
I apologize, I've just gotten off work and am a little decaffienated...a lot, and my friends are having trouble so I was a little emotional..I apologize.

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It's ok, everyone's entitled to blow off a little steam every now and then, and you did it with a sound argument

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 15:47 Edited at: 29th Sep 2007 15:53
Quote: "Games (out currently)
360 -------------------- 8
Wii -------------------- 6
Ps3 -------------------- 6
(halo 3 is amazing...)
"

Shouldn't it be
360 -------------------- A**LOADS
Wii -------------------- 125
ps3 -------------------- 2
lol

Quote: "Get the 360 if................ Your a hardcore halo fan and/or hate sony and/or are not willing to wait for the ps3 price to eventually drop."


Fanboy.... *sniff* *sniff* thats pure rind fanboy there. So your literally saying that the only game for 360 is Halo and saying that you should get PS3 but if you can't wait get a 360. You're such a fanboy. 360=Lots of games, great price, fun to play, these are used in game compos aswell as Computers.

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 16:08 Edited at: 29th Sep 2007 16:16
but rember the there are a lot of problems with the 360, i just got mine back for over heating and now it scratches disc and they want be to pay them £10 each to replace 3 disc with games i don't even want. so i have to give £30 even though they are all comming to the same place at the same time! They knew at the time of release that this console was not ready and still 2 years later they still haven't fixed it.

im stating to think of trading it in to get a ps3

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 17:17 Edited at: 29th Sep 2007 17:18
Quote: "360 -------------------- A**LOADS
Wii -------------------- 125
ps3 -------------------- 2"

I will just assume you said that to annoy zombie
If we're talking about graphics lets not embarrass the Wii

The PS3 kicks ass, looks amazing, (haven't played one so can't comment on how it feels), and it's fast. buuut... its a crazy project that has turned into this huge all-powerful machine that will take over the world and is so expensive that it's just showing off
I still would like to play one before I buy but for now I am leaning towards PS3, it seems more future proofed than the XBox
If I was 14 I would want the XBox

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 18:13 Edited at: 29th Sep 2007 18:14
Quote: "If I was 14 I would want the XBox"

Your joking right. 360 has better titles, that Flower looks really boring and who cares about the graphics I want gameplay not to watch a virtual flower grow in my TV I'd say sod this and throw it out of the window.
Quote: "but rember the there are a lot of problems with the 360, i just got mine back for over heating and now it scratches disc and they want be to pay them £10 each to replace 3 disc with games i don't even want. so i have to give £30 even though they are all comming to the same place at the same time! They knew at the time of release that this console was not ready and still 2 years later they still haven't fixed it.

im stating to think of trading it in to get a ps3"


People took back alot of ps3s due to its disk thingy it jams the disc inside of it and then you have scratches. And yes 360 has problems that is why they are releasing a heat sink for the 360 and of-course the elite has one. And apparently half of the 360's problems are gone due to the Heat sink. This is where Microsoft went wrong you see, they made the 360 too compact so it has over-heating. You can buy heat-sinks.

Quote: "huge all-powerful machine that will take over the world "

It won't beat the pc. And wait a second! Microsoft made Direct X10.

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 18:15
Quote: "
Quote: "Games (out currently)
360 -------------------- 8
Wii -------------------- 6
Ps3 -------------------- 6
(halo 3 is amazing...)
"
Shouldn't it be
360 -------------------- A**LOADS
Wii -------------------- 125
ps3 -------------------- 2
lol


Quote: "Get the 360 if................ Your a hardcore halo fan and/or hate sony and/or are not willing to wait for the ps3 price to eventually drop."

Fanboy.... *sniff* *sniff* thats pure rind fanboy there. So your literally saying that the only game for 360 is Halo and saying that you should get PS3 but if you can't wait get a 360. You're such a fanboy. 360=Lots of games, great price, fun to play, these are used in game compos aswell as Computers.
"


Now there is a xbox fan boy I still think they all suck! Compared to the previous gens anyway in terms of quality and fun games. Now if someone was to merge all of the good aspects of the consoles together... You may have one good console
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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 18:26
@Chenak: Hence the lol at the bottom.

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Let's face it, they've all gone a bit off the ball, and you guys all hate PS3 because it has gone most off the ball lol
What are they? Are they still games consoles?

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well 360 is practically turning into a computer..sony should really just make interactive cutscenes and the wii is the ulitmate party console and in my mind, the only one that is a console.

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 21:11 Edited at: 29th Sep 2007 21:12
Quote: "Shouldn't it be
360 -------------------- A**LOADS
Wii -------------------- 125
ps3 -------------------- 2"


Haha, this one made me laugh because it's true.

As far as I'm concerned the PS3 has Motorstorm and Resistance: Fall of Man. That's it.

The Wii number should be closer to 4 or 5. 360 can remain at assloads

EDIT:

Oops--- I forgot about Heavenly Sword. PS3++

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Posted: 29th Sep 2007 21:45
Quote: "the wii is the ulitmate party console and in my mind, the only one that is a console."


I agree, the others do try to be multi purpose consoles (the ps3 tries harder than the 360 though) and i like the fact ninty have kept it simple, i already have things that play dvd's and music, i don't need another.

Chenak
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Quote: "@Chenak: Hence the lol at the bottom."


I know, hense the

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Quote: "Haha, this one made me laugh because it's true.

As far as I'm concerned the PS3 has Motorstorm and Resistance: Fall of Man. That's it.

The Wii number should be closer to 4 or 5. 360 can remain at assloads

EDIT:

Oops--- I forgot about Heavenly Sword. PS3++"


Warhawk
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
And all the multiplatform games you'll find on the 360

There's only one exclusive Wii title worth owning, and its Metroid Prime 3. Everything else has either been pretty shallow, or is on another console.
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Quote: "And all the multiplatform games you'll find on the 360"


Yah--- and many of them run at half the framerate and have been referred to as "slideshows" by more than one reviewer. But I digress.

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Quote: "Yah--- and many of them run at half the framerate and have been referred to as "slideshows" by more than one reviewer. But I digress."


Many of them aren't worth owning on either console anyway...
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Quote: "Ninja Gaiden Sigma"

Thats Ninja Gaiden just with Sigma at the end. And ninja gaiden is a xbox game.

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Quote: "Thats Ninja Gaiden just with Sigma at the end. And ninja gaiden is a xbox game."


...I know... But you can only play the Sigma version on the PS3. And they are different.
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Quote: "And they are different. "

No they aren't. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is the exact same story line as the xbox version.

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Xbox 360 vs PS3?

Xbox of course. I would of prefered the Elite one though to the original. A while back it was being used without me, and left on for about 12 hours in the end, it's been 3 months since I've sent for repair/replacement, I've only now got confirmation that it will be 2 weeks until I can play it. I really can't wait to play Halo 3 and Bioshock, they're right next to me on the table too.



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Posted: 30th Sep 2007 04:33 Edited at: 30th Sep 2007 22:32
Quote: "Many of them aren't worth owning on either console anyway..."


Hehe you got me there. Well, aside from NHL 08, which is the greatest hockey game ever made

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Quote: "There's only one exclusive Wii title worth owning"


Twilight Princess..galaxy...brawl..paper mario?

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Uh, Galaxy and Brawl aren't out yet.

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Quote: "No they aren't. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is the exact same story line as the xbox version."


rofl okay dude. I guess remakes of old games mean the newer ones are exactly the same game. There ARE differences between the games. I've played both of them...

Quote: "Hehe you got me there. Well, aside from NHL 09, which is the greatest hockey game ever made"


I haven't really played a sports game since NBA Jam on the SNES lol. Although Madden on the Wii was okay, I actually thought about getting it.

Quote: "Twilight Princess..galaxy...brawl..paper mario?"


Twilight Princess was on the GC, and arguably better. Paper Mario has pretty shallow gameplay, not that its a bad game, I just can't be bothered to waste my time just to have fun. Especially having a couple of decades of experience playing video games, its just not as appealing as it once used to be.
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Nothing will ever beat the final battle for me in TP, it was very cool on the wii, I mean in the zelda series, there are tons of other moments that totally destroy it.

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Quote: "Although Madden on the Wii was okay, I actually thought about getting it."


<gloat>If you get Madden 08 Wii you'll see my name in the credits </gloat>

Honestly, I can't stand playing Madden, but I enjoyed the Wii version. Something about the feel of it made it more understandable. The AI needs a lot of work though.

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Quote: "rofl okay dude. I guess remakes of old games mean the newer ones are exactly the same game. There ARE differences between the games. I've played both of them..."

They are the same! The only different thing you can do on Sigma is a gay little mini game.

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Quote: "NHL 09"

huh? were not even in 08 yet!

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Quote: "They are the same! The only different thing you can do on Sigma is a gay little mini game."


Yup that's the only different thing... Because Sigma was a direct port from its Xbox counterpart.
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Quote: "huh? were not even in 08 yet!"


Oops, my bad.

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I've heard a lot of people say their XBox has "fried" or "suffered from the three rings of death", and many are still without replacements.
How big is this problem and does the XBox Elite's heat sync solve it?

Sorry Jeku I wasn't sniping at you lol, I thought there actually was an NHL 09 already!

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The 360 has always seemed very fragile to me. Seeing as it can over heat if left on rugs, and if bumped around a bit can break, and of course the three rings of death. Don't get me wrong, I love the 360, but shouldn't it be more durable?


Quote: "There's only one exclusive Wii title worth owning"

But there are a bunch coming out, and they all look cool. Zombie named Brawl, Galaxy, and I'll add Umbrella Chronicles, and No More Heroes.

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Its not because its fragile its because its too compact together so it has no cooling space.

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they have only just started putting 65nm chips in so most of the elites have heating problems, some might have the disc scratching problem as well like mine

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What's the disc scratching problem?
doesn't sound so good
My friend who has a 360 said this was happening but I just thought he wasn't looking after his games very well.

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nope theres a piece of metal in the drive tray that comes in contact with the disc and so makes it compeletly unplayable.

Microsoft should have test the 360 for a extra year instead of trying to get it out early, thats why i traded mine in for a ps3 a couple of days ago

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Quote: "thats why i traded mine in for a ps3 a couple of days ago"

Have a good time with no gameslol

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Quote: "Have a good time with no games lol

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Ouch deathhead..haha ouch..ps3 still has oblivion, motorstorm,and I think there are some sports ports too.

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there a enough games to keep me happy, i used to support microsoft with the 360 but now i have exprienced their poor build qulity and rubbish customer service i would prefer to have any other console and from now on im not going to buy any other microsoft console (but still windows )

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Quote: "their poor build qulity and rubbish customer service"

And sonys customers service is going to be better in Customer Service you get the same type of person who say its your fault.

And its not poorly built as I said it is made too compact.

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i mean poorly buit as in they didn't test it first (heat and disc problems). I have only called sony once and that was about the psp and they a lot better than microsoft

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