Quote: "they never were disillusioned into spewing propoganda to try to say "oh well this is the best console ever despite the fact the company did wrong""
Really? No one ever claimed the Gamecube was the best console ever? Really?!? I've heard that, oh, a few zillion times from people.
Here's a forum with someone saying it.
Here's someone else saying it. I could do that all day, point is, when the PS2/ XBox/ Gamecube era was going on, it wasn't too hard to find a Nintendo fanboy who said the other two consoles were crap and the Gamecube was the best, even though the Gamecube had very similar sales figures as the PS3. And on that note...
Quote: "they never were disillusioned"
So what you're saying is, if I like the PS3 and defend it, I'm disillusioned. But if I went around supporting the Wii and/ or 360, what, I'd be a better person? I'm sick to death of this theory that I must be brainwashed for loving Sony. Anyone who thinks they haven't done anything for the game industry, and the entertainment industry as a whole for that matter, shouldn't be allowed to visit game development sites. And just because I love the PS3 doesn't mean I'm disillusioned or anything else. If you can't deal with hearing the opinions of others, I'd hate to know what your real-world interactions must be like.
Quote: "What pisses me off about you Sony fanboys is you just don't listen to reason.. it's like you've been given a full frontal labotomy with a label on the front of the jar saying "Sony is god, everyone else is wrong""
Really? I've never admitted Sony was wrong for their marketing campaign? I never said the Wii was a good console? I never admitted I was wrong about Sony's future success? Just because I root for them and hope they succeed doesn't mean they have a PR chip installed in my head. Seeing as how you always show up in these threads Raven, it's pretty astonishing you could say something so crass. But then again, it's you I'm talking about here.
Quote: "GRAND THEFT AUTO"
Funniest thing I've read on TGC in 2007, hands down. So you're saying the GTA series made the PS1 successful, and the PS2 didn't have any other games of quality? Even though XBox had versions for it with improved graphics? Do some homework, then repeat that comment.
Quote: "Hmm.. you know I don't actually remember you doing anything useful either."
I've released three games so far with two more on the way. Pretty useful to the people who've played them and told me they enjoyed them. How many do you have out, btw?
Quote: "yes they're growing it isn't even close to the same rate as their competitors."
Again... all I'm saying is, they're boost in sales is proof that things are starting to turn around for Sony. It's not like the boost came over the course of several years... it came over the course of a few months. Their sales are picking up, and if you can't see that, then I suggest you buy yourself a better calculator.
Quote: "Matt, you're a total PS3 fanboy."
Can't be helped, and again, there's nothing wrong with that
. I'm properly fed up with people treating Sony fanboys like dirt, while Nintendo fans are hailed and M$ fanboys get away with not admitting their fanboyism, but what can you do
. Not suggesting you do that or anything, just saying it in general.
Quote: "I have said time and time again that I could care less what people say about EA, as long as it's non-biased and *factual*."
When I complained about EA's Fight Night series and pointed out things I found wrong with the game, just stating opinions, you didn't like that very much. I'd post a link but Apollo won't let me view multiple pages of my threads :/. As I recall you did take offense to me stating I was unhappy with how they were made, and said that if I could do a better job I should make a sports game (or something to that effect).
Quote: "What's this smart thing you're referring to?"
So you're saying Sony did nothing at all to improve sales (and their marketing campaign) in the last few months? That it's a 100% fluke, that they're only getting sales because people already have the other two consoles? It shouldn't be necessary to prove somehow that Sony has buffed up their ad campaign since the early summer, that they changed their advertising technique almost entirely. And since November 1st, it's been
kicked up another notch. Seriously, I'm not asking for a lot here. I'm just asking that credit is given when it's deserved. They did a hell of a lot to turn sales around and it's hard to take people seriously who can't recognize that Sony is doing all they can to improve their image in this industry.
Quote: "I've not actually heard the term "Next-Gen" from friends who are also in development companies.. well bar you."
In Jeku's defense, he's definitley not the only person I know who works in the industry and uses the term "next gen." I have a few friends who work in the mainstream and I hear them use it a lot. And pick up a copy of Game Developer magazine sometime, you'll read it constantly in there.
Quote: "It's possible that these extra PS3 sales are because people can't get a Wii for xmas"
What stores are sold out of Wii? Not arguing here, just asking. What I will say about Nintendo though... it's not like there's a mad rush to get Wii's this holiday, it's not this holiday's "Elmo" or anything. If they're having problems meeting demand, it's a manufacturing issue. And I seriously expect people who say they're non-biased to start complaining about Nintendo's mistake, and pronto.
Again, the entire point of what I'm saying isn't that the PS3 is beating either console in sales, and please point to where I said that. What I DID say is, and this is an undeniable fact, Sony have worked hard to improve sales and have turned around their image quite considerably in the eyes of the public. Maybe they haven't switched anti-Sony elitists, but who cares? The fact is, the PS3 is selling more units than it has before, and it's improving their sales rate exponentially. And Sony definitely deserves credit for improving their ad campaign and working hard to get consoles into living rooms around the world. They're not making course statements in the media anymore. They've lost the chip on their shoulder and have re-focused their efforts now that they realise they aren't infallable. And everyone, EVERYONE who ripped Sony for that chip on their shoulder in the past should start recognizing the changes they've made if they hope to appear non-biased against them in the future. And I don't see why it's so hard to see the possibility of them catching up in sales... dunno, I guess I must be a nutter or something for thinking an underdog could start showing their teeth.
