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dark coder
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2008 14:33
Quote: "Anti-as ailing only make a difference if the res of the game is lower than the res of the monitor."


Where did you hear this? Anti-Aliasing is easy to spot no matter what resolution the game uses, even if it's the same as the monitor's max.

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2008 18:46
@dark coder, really? Hmm, I've just never noticed when the game res was the same as the screen. I'm sure you're right though. I have a 1600x1200 monitor, that might be higher than the average person sets their screen res to, especially on a 17 inch screen like mine.

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2008 22:46
Quote: "Anti-Aliasing is easy to spot no matter what resolution the game uses"


Yeah because the game runs 10X slower

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Silvester
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2008 22:49
Quote: "Yeah because the game runs 10X slower"


Yup, but you need to put it on 16x to see any real difference at higher resolutions too...

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Posted: 4th Jul 2008 01:26
Quote: "Yup, but you need to put it on 16x to see any real difference at higher resolutions too..."


Why would the resolution affect this? 4x FSAA will give the same affect on a 1600x1200 and 320x240, it will be more noticeable on the latter of course because there are far less pixels to look at, but that doesn't mean you'd need to crank it up on higher resolutions to notice anything, if anything it's the other way around. Anything past 4x on large display usually doesn't make that much difference.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2008 09:29
Quote: "Why would the resolution affect this? 4x FSAA will give the same affect on a 1600x1200 and 320x240, it will be more noticeable on the latter of course because there are far less pixels to look at, but that doesn't mean you'd need to crank it up on higher resolutions to notice anything, if anything it's the other way around. Anything past 4x on large display usually doesn't make that much difference.
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Funny, since in every game I play, there is no difference between 4X AA and 0x AA(Besides the noticable framerate drop)

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Posted: 4th Jul 2008 11:10
You either have a bad graphics card or a bad eye.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2008 11:57 Edited at: 4th Jul 2008 11:58
Quote: "Funny, since in every game I play, there is no difference between 4X AA and 0x AA(Besides the noticable framerate drop)"


It must depend on different factors (monitor, graphics card...), 4x doesn't make much of a difference for me on some games, like Half Life 2, but I can max out my AA on that without slow downs anyway. Crysis, I think 4x meant a good enough of an improvement, but it meant a slow down to about 15fps, so as you can image I'm not keen on the idea of knocking it up.

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Posted: 4th Jul 2008 14:07
Quote: "You either have a bad graphics card or a bad eye."


Both are fine...(Nvidia 9600, and no glasses needed)

Quote: "It must depend on different factors (monitor, graphics card...), 4x doesn't make much of a difference for me on some games, like Half Life 2, but I can max out my AA on that without slow downs anyway. Crysis, I think 4x meant a good enough of an improvement, but it meant a slow down to about 15fps, so as you can image I'm not keen on the idea of knocking it up."


true, As even without AA, I hardly see sharp edges on my screen.

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Posted: 5th Jul 2008 06:01 Edited at: 5th Jul 2008 06:01
RuneScape High Detail trailer
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35739.html

And yes. I still play on at least a weekly basis ^.^ Some weeks I'll play an hour or two every day. Really depends on what mood I'm in.

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Posted: 5th Jul 2008 09:30
I must say, Jagex deserve alot of congratulation for doing so much for the engine, I gave up playing this a little while back, and told my friends they were all idiots for playing a game that was generally just bad.....

I might start playing it again, although I hope they change the music.....

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Posted: 6th Jul 2008 11:22
I always wondered why RuneScape got a lot of the flak it gets from random people.. It is actually a decent game, and heck, its free! I'm glad to see a graphics update, heck I remember when there used to be only two servers and no knees! The game keeps progressing with addons and whatnot, so I hope this new update does Jagex good with the game.

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Posted: 6th Jul 2008 12:06
I have to commed Jagex, they really do care about this game and making it better......

I just found out the HD Beta isn't open to non-members yet, curses.....

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Posted: 6th Jul 2008 21:34
Whether or not it's a cool game, the full screen mode, is an incredible work of programming. No download. O_o

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Posted: 6th Jul 2008 22:36 Edited at: 6th Jul 2008 22:37
Incredible work of programming? It just stretches the window to the registered resolution. We're talking like one or two lines of code here, am I right?

There was a Runescape Client written in VB6 by someone, and I messed around with it not too long ago, and it went full screen.

A "tweak" to get "full screen" on runescape is to set your computer's resolution to 800x600 and then set your browser to full screen mode. It will appear as fullscreen and does heighten gameplay a little bit more, I guess it simulates depth. I have no idea. =/


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Posted: 6th Jul 2008 22:46
Java supports this by default...

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Posted: 6th Jul 2008 22:57
Quote: "Incredible work of programming? It just stretches the window to the registered resolution. We're talking like one or two lines of code here, am I right?"

I think he means the game in general

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Posted: 7th Jul 2008 04:42
Quote: "I think he means the game in general"


Beyond that. Many people that I've shown this 'new' runescape to, do not believe no download is required. I find it incredible that all of that can run on your browser.

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Posted: 7th Jul 2008 08:35
It uses Procedural Programmming, it sends the textures in byte-code apparently, so there's no need to download......

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Posted: 7th Jul 2008 09:53
well, It DOES download some basic stuff, but thats just the game cache so it loads slightly faster next time.

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 00:02
It's now availible to free members, though you can't go fullscreen, and it looks great.

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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 00:08
I had to get members about four-five days ago to try it out, seeing as how I started playing the game back when there were only two servers, and it's definitely much better now than original RS2. The game doesn't feel so cluttered and the world is better now that you're not just looking at it through a tiny window. I hope they fix up the GUI a bit though, they should take advantage of the space they have now (movable windows, expandable chat etc.). It'd also be nice to have a windowed fullscreen mode, so you can switch between apps without having to go back to normal mode, makes it more helpful when using price guides and whatnot.

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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 00:18 Edited at: 15th Jul 2008 00:19
It'd be nice to have fullscreen for Free members, playing it now, the graphics make a different, but hate the fact it's small. (Was going to upgrade to members but my bank account rejected the website) Am currently liking the lack of members using it right now, it's much easier getting yew logs without 5 other different people crowding around the same tree.

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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 00:20
Well, they have to add stuff to force people to members right?(Like disabling 90% of the game, and disabling the full screen feature...) Oh wait, they already did so.
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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 00:28
I know, but reading their article, the reason they haven't given the Free members fullscreen is that they won't have ads showing, however they're going to look at a solution so that free members can utilise that feature.

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@Prince of Darkness: There was a time when all the non-members stuff was the entire world of RuneScape. They haven't disabled anything from free players, just kept new content to be members only. I remember playing RSC before it was RSC and let me tell you, theres still plenty of hours of play in the free version of the game. I'd say its hardly forcing

@Seppuku Arts: Whats your character name? The one I've been playing is Saikoro815.

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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 00:43
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Quote: "I remember playing RSC before it was RSC and let me tell you, theres still plenty of hours of play in the free version of the game."


Yup, I'm still pushing it for fun, I've got 4 quests left to do and plenty of skills to polish up on and different guilds to enter, and money to earn to get valuable items etc. Runescape is the only MMORPG to keep me going - I did have a member's account for a couple of months and it was a lot better there, but alas RS don't like my debit card, I'll probably top my phone up so I can do it via text and see how much the member's world has changed (and get this bloody fullscreen. )

I first played RS when it had 2D characters, it was good fun, but I didn't last long with it, partially because at the time my PC was fairly rubbish, as was my internet connection.

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Posted: 15th Jul 2008 01:02
Yeh, I had a poor PC at the time with dial-up connection, so I would always go to a friends house to play on his broadband connection. It really is a fun game, once you get past the menial stuff you have to do at the beginning.

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Posted: 17th Jul 2008 02:56
When I first started to play way back whenever, the menial stuff almost made me give up. What really bugged me was delay in every move i made, at least in WoW they try to make the game feel like it's all real time. As far as graphics go, sure they weren't that great, but I'm pretty sure the lack of real-time and bad community is what made me give up it, that and I was afraid to ask my dad for his credit card for the membership at the time....

WHAT THE HECK WAS I THINKING!!! WHY DID I PUT MY NAME AS DYNAMIC LOADING SCREEN!!! AHHHHHH!!!!
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Posted: 1st Sep 2008 17:02
Original was best!

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Posted: 1st Sep 2008 17:08
Why the almost 2 month bump anyways? 1 month threads sure, but 2 months old? I mean, come on.


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Posted: 1st Sep 2008 17:15
I think they should re-implement the 30 day lock system.


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Posted: 1st Sep 2008 18:25
They should.


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hey guys, add me: daxter286

The one thing I'm sad about is the updates. You can't really scam anymore. (profitably anyway) I've got at least two dozen accounts my brother, neighbor and I tricked into giving up their password :p That was when rs was most fun lol.

Oh, and I'm sure I'll get flamed for that but I don't really care :p
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Posted: 1st Sep 2008 22:06
Well, dunno why, but after reading this thread I wanted to play Ragnarok Online. But it seems that the server I've played is closed now... :~/

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Posted: 1st Sep 2008 22:28 Edited at: 1st Sep 2008 22:31
You probably will, especially by me Crazy-b, because I've been scammed on RS before and the scammers are usually little $*$%s.

Though saying that - I can't really flame you The Crazy, it's not within me to do so. You got to consider how cruel and unfair it can be, at the end of the day you're being cruel to some who maybe is half your age. A lot of youngsters are quite naive and probably wouldn't take to well to a scammer - heck I was naive, hence I got scammed when I did. (Though I guess I still am naive in ways)

But if TGCers are really wanting to add each other, I'll put my username up:

Seppuku05

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Posted: 1st Sep 2008 23:24
It's asking me for your password, what is it?

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Nice try.

It's Jupiter.

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Quote: "The one thing I'm sad about is the updates. You can't really scam anymore. (profitably anyway) I've got at least two dozen accounts my brother, neighbor and I tricked into giving up their password :p That was when rs was most fun lol."


People who get kicks out of scamming others really shouldn't play online games, imo. It simply ruins the experience for people who want to play legitimately, and it's really quite pitiful. I'll leave it at that.


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Posted: 3rd Sep 2008 08:01
I play every once in a while, my user name is

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Posted: 5th Sep 2008 20:24
Lol, In Habbo Hotel, the only real way to make money is scamming.....

Meh, I don't really play it anymore, my account is Halo Grunt69

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Posted: 5th Sep 2008 20:54
Well, seeing as this is somehow still alive... Ben2 0

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