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Mr Z
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Posted: 31st Dec 2008 23:33
Quote: "OK, I downloaded the Clearlooks theme, but I have no idea how to install it..."


Place the extracted theme (in an own folder, not all the files directly there) here:
C:\WINDOWS\Resources\Themes

And then go into the folder and double click on the ClearLooks.msstyles file.

Do not know if that is how you should do it, but it worked for me.

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you have to have an unlocked DLL for that though. There's a program called VistaGlazz that does it for you.

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Yeah, it's not working, and I don't want to go about unlocking dll's or anything ( I don't think I should mess with that sort of thing on this computer that's going to be 6 years old in Spring), but I do appreciate the help guys! I'll just have to deal with the regular Windows look.

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Posted: 1st Jan 2009 20:40
Quote: "Quote: "My amazing desktop. Need to keep my computer optimized for my Core i7, 6GB DDR3 beast."

But does it play the harmonica... ?"


No, but if you replace it for an iPhone you can play the Ocarina with it.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2009 06:09
My desktop!

My Computer: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66Ghz, 4Gb of RAM,
Nvidea 9800 gt 512Mb, And Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit.

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SunnyKatt
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Posted: 7th Jan 2009 13:22
Quote: "My amazing desktop. Need to keep my computer optimized for my Core i7, 6GB DDR3 beast."



Kinda an oxymoron there... keeping a computer speedy on vista...

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I run vista and my computer is speedy.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2009 19:01
Quote: "I run vista and my computer is speedy."


Relative to what - a machine without a processor?


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Not as speedy as it could be. Sure, any new computer is speedy. Vista is still a processor-hog.

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Posted: 7th Jan 2009 23:14
If my computer is taking a while to do something I pick up a book or look out the window. I should try complaining about it on the internet instead maybe?


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I don't notice it being any slower than Ubuntu or XP (and I use them both and vista regularly). If I need a boost, I'll turn off Aero, if I need more, I'll turn off Vista. It's that simple. But for now, Vista does the job just as well as any other OS, and I like the way it looks better.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 04:03 Edited at: 8th Jan 2009 04:06
Here's mine, it's pretty boring.

I made the background with Terragen, yeah, I don't know how to get it to texture it.

Naomi = Cuteness.

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Agent Dink
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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 04:16 Edited at: 8th Jan 2009 04:18
Vista isn't really any slower than XP... I don't think half the naysayers have even touched Vista. Just don't run it on something below the recommended requirements and your fine. Same as XP. XP was just as thrashed as Vista is now because no one had a system designed for it.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 04:29
Quote: "Vista isn't really any slower than XP... "


Riiight.... and the same game requires twice as much RAM and a faster CPU to run on Vista why?


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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 04:37
Quote: "Riiight.... and the same game requires twice as much RAM and a faster CPU to run on Vista why?"


In my experience that's never been the case. I have always run everything the same way between XP and Vista on my machine.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 04:42 Edited at: 8th Jan 2009 04:43
Well according to the system requirements of every single boxed game I've seen that's come out since Vista, I'd say it's a fact

But anyways, it makes sense. Most new OS' take up more RAM than their predecessor.


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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 05:20
Vista uses half a gigabyte. Seriously, people need to get out of the past. Most computers have more than 2gb, usually around 4gb. You're an idiot if you need a paging file.
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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 05:25
Quote: "But anyways, it makes sense. Most new OS' take up more RAM than their predecessor."

Yup, makes sense to me as well. Hardware is improving, so why can't our software take advantage of that and improve too?

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Mr Z
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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 10:18
Just do not get what makes Vista take up so much RAM. Turned of Superfetch once, and a few other things, still used about 600 mb (complicated issue why I did that). Not bashing it or anything, but I am curious of what makes it take so much.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 17:37 Edited at: 8th Jan 2009 17:40
Quote: "Vista uses half a gigabyte. Seriously, people need to get out of the past. Most computers have more than 2gb, usually around 4gb. You're an idiot if you need a paging file."


Yeah, let's lead the crusade to pointlessly waste RAM for an OS that introduces practically no new features at all!

In all seriousness though, the reason Vista consumes more RAM is because lots of critical systems (e.g. explorer) are now .NET assembly. I suppose this makes sense in the long term, in regards to MS being able to maintain it (in the same way Apple are converting the Finder to Cocoa for Snow Leopard). Presumably the advantages won't be felt now, but a bit further down the line it'll probably pay off dividends (with another Mac analogy: Kind of like how OSX sucked in terms of performance originally, but slowly built itself up to a stable maintainable platform. I reckon that's what MS were aiming for: a 'rebuild' at any cost)


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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 18:22 Edited at: 8th Jan 2009 18:23
Quote: "Yeah, let's lead the crusade to pointlessly waste RAM for an OS that introduces practically no new features at all!"


I also think we have a different view on it. I prefer a relatively stripped down platform (Ubuntu works fine for me, as does XP) above one that includes stuff I will not use the way Vista does, and then I add what I want or need above that. Other people prefer the later. Would not say one is better then the other, just different ways to look at it.

Quote: "In all seriousness though, the reason Vista consumes more RAM is because lots of critical systems (e.g. explorer) are now .NET assembly. I suppose this makes sense in the long term, in regards to MS being able to maintain it (in the same way Apple are converting the Finder to Cocoa for Snow Leopard). Presumably the advantages won't be felt now, but a bit further down the line it'll probably pay off dividends (with another Mac analogy: Kind of like how OSX sucked in terms of performance originally, but slowly built itself up to a stable maintainable platform. I reckon that's what MS were aiming for: a 'rebuild' at any cost)"


Interesting. Does this mean .NET applications automatically takes more memory?

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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 20:46
My desktop's attached.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 21:20
Quote: "My desktop's attached."

Hard to see your desktop with all that stuff blocking the view.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 22:01
Quote: "My desktop's attached.

-FCV"


Yay, I am in the browser!

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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 22:51
Interesting view of your desktop there FCV.

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Mine needs some work...

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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 23:13
Quote: "Interesting. Does this mean .NET applications automatically takes more memory?"


Initially .net apps take more memory. But as you open more and more .net apps, they take up less and less memory because it reuses resources that the other programs are already using. This is one the benefits of using a framework. But it's a two edged sword... if you only use one app, for example, it uses more ram.

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Quote: "Initially .net apps take more memory. But as you open more and more .net apps, they take up less and less memory because it reuses resources that the other programs are already using. This is one the benefits of using a framework. But it's a two edged sword... if you only use one app, for example, it uses more ram."


Ok, didn´t know that. Thanks .

Guess different ways have different pros and cons. Think .NET is missing one of the major pros with a framework and all that, though: Platform independence. But that is what I got Java for.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2009 23:34 Edited at: 8th Jan 2009 23:36
Quote: "But as you open more and more .net apps, they take up less and less memory because it reuses resources that the other programs are already using. This is one the benefits of using a framework. But it's a two edged sword... if you only use one app, for example, it uses more ram."


That's not really .NET specific - DLLs have the same effect (loaded for one application means they can be shared with another)

The few reasons for high RAM usage I consider to be key are:

* The runtime consumes memory in large segments rather than small blocks. Typically they're about 8MB each, so often a small .NET app will consume 12-16MB just by opening

* The runtime has to do a lot of work to run the app - either ahead of time or on the fly. The CLR has to convert CIL bytecode to the equivalent machine code, and no doubt this will add to the extra RAM burden as well

* Garbage collection is obviously delayed before it can remove things. Obviously, the garbage collector can't read the developer's mind, so often it will allow data to stay in RAM for longer than necessary (although the generational GC it uses it fairly decent)


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Quote: "Platform independence"

.NET is platform independent, lookup Mono.


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Posted: 9th Jan 2009 01:28 Edited at: 9th Jan 2009 01:31
Quote: ".NET is platform independent, lookup Mono."


.NET can be platform independent, but it is not as independent as it could be. Works very good in Windows, but I am not really a fan of it in Linux (Mono and so). Then again I have not used it very much, did learn that you cannot use the same GUI as in Windows (Windows Forms, or something like that), and so on... basically you still need to a bit code different from platform to platform. On this point, when it comes to platform independence, Java beats .NET hands down (.NET is better at other things, both have their pros and cons). As it is now, .NET is primarily a Windows development platform, it is at its best in that environment. Works in other, but as good.

Have looked up a Windows Forms conversion to Mono once, though, but it did not work with everything that was in Windows when I looked it up and so.

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Quote: "Have looked up a Windows Forms conversion to Mono once, though, but it did not work with everything that was in Windows when I looked it up and so."

Mono has come a long way in the last bit. Windows forms have been reverse engineered and cloned to work with mono on linux/mac. Mono 2.0 can do everything .net 2.0 can do and most of what .net 3.0 can do.


Quote: "That's not really .NET specific - DLLs have the same effect"

I know. .net is a framework. A framework is, in a nut shell, a collection of of DLLs.

Another pro for .net is the library is being optimized by a team of very skilled developers who are specialized in a specific area. Their job is to optimize specific parts of code. They're going to be able to optimize that code a heck a lot better than the average programmer can. And so .net has been becoming a very power and fast framework. Since RAM is becoming more and more cheaper than processing power. I'm willing to trade in some of my RAM for higher optimized code.

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Posted: 9th Jan 2009 17:27 Edited at: 9th Jan 2009 17:29
Quote: "I know. .net is a framework. A framework is, in a nut shell, a collection of of DLLs.
"


No, what I meant is the sharing of already loaded data is a property of DLLs - it's not a special attribute of .NET. You can get the same advantage from using the C runtime or any number of other core APIs and systems


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Quote: "Mono has come a long way in the last bit. Windows forms have been reverse engineered and cloned to work with mono on linux/mac. Mono 2.0 can do everything .net 2.0 can do and most of what .net 3.0 can do."


So, basically I can take any application coded in C# that uses .NET 2.0 (assuming it does not use any Windows specific operations, such as using the Registry) and run it in Linux under Mono? Cool !

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Here, A nice simple tidy desktop. Does its job.

CPU: AMD X2 6000+ 3.0ghz GFX: NVIDIA BFG Geforce 8800GTS 640MB OC-550mhz core RAM: 2048mb

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hatlawyer
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heres mine

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Posted: 10th Jan 2009 02:45
The game box requirements for vista vs. xp are crazy. Vista apparently eats your processor alive. I've used and seen it, but only one powerful computers where it made no difference. I did see the large performance boost Ubuntu gave to an old laptop, and I saw some comparison benchmarks on the internet that showed how beastly ubuntu is (frankly I don't remember the numbers. Sorry. )

Alot of it is aero, though.

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Posted: 10th Jan 2009 03:14 Edited at: 10th Jan 2009 03:17
Here's my desktop. Thankfully I got a hair cut just a few days later lol.

[edit] okay guess I'll just upload here.

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@ hatlawyer:




What year are you in?

JoelJ
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Quote: "No, what I meant is the sharing of already loaded data is a property of DLLs - it's not a special attribute of .NET. You can get the same advantage from using the C runtime or any number of other core APIs and systems
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Yes, I know.

Quote: "So, basically I can take any application coded in C# that uses .NET 2.0 (assuming it does not use any Windows specific operations, such as using the Registry) and run it in Linux under Mono? Cool !"

yep. It's pretty sweet.
It's not as fast as .net though. Paint.net would work in mono if it weren't for the pinvokes that use Windows specific DLL calls :/

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Quote: "Alot of it is aero, though."


Vista fanboys always cite this as an excuse (not implying you are one for presenting the point) for less RAM / free CPU %, but since the desktop window manager is now a full blown compositor, it should off lay its work to the GPU (which is the whole point in the compositor in the first place) - so Aero shouldn't have any effect at all


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Quote: "Hard to see your desktop with all that stuff blocking the view."


That was because it wouldn't minimise for some reason lol. Here is the new attached desktop then.

-FCV

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Click here for image
Double montitor display FTW!
(I`m running windows XP with XP-Sidebar, and object dock.)


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Quote: " Double montitor display FTW!
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Since when does a display have two monitors?
Oh and that link doesn't work.


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Quote: "Oh and that link doesn't work."

If I must stretch the page, than I shall...

Can you see it now? 'cause I can.


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Nope, nor can I see any of the images on http://dropbox.hazardstrip.com/

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:\ damnit... You'll need to sign up to FPSBanana.com then...
Dropbox is a module for users on FPSB that allow them to drop files, like a file uploader, and it's probably the quickest i've seen, so thats why I used it.

I'll upload it somewhere else than. D:

Expect a edit plz... :3


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I can see it Matuka. It stretched the page lol.

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Here's mine. I got bored with my old background so I found a new one.

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Matuka, where can I get that background??

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