Quote: "@Raven: Disproving the bible:
Matt 12:40: "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Please note it says THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS (the same as in Jonah 1:17 which it refers to). Yet ALL FOUR GOSPELS report that Jesus died on Friday evening and was resurrected on Sunday morning (at or before dawn, some more contradictions on this point), which would only allow less than 36 hours, not three days AND three nights."
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1 The word of the LORD came to Jonah the son of Amittai saying,2"Arise, go to Nineveh the great city and cry against it, for their wickedness has come up before Me."3But Jonah rose up to flee to Tarshish from the presence of the LORD. So he went down to Joppa, found a ship which was going to Tarshish, paid the fare and went down into it to go with them to Tarshish from the presence of the LORD.4The LORD hurled a great wind on the sea and there was a great storm on the sea so that the ship was about to break up.5Then the sailors became afraid and every man cried to his god, and they threw the cargo which was in the ship into the sea to lighten it for them. But Jonah had gone below into the hold of the ship, lain down and fallen sound asleep.6So the captain approached him and said, "How is it that you are sleeping? Get up, call on your god. Perhaps your god will be concerned about us so that we will not perish."7Each man said to his mate, "Come, let us cast lots so we may learn on whose account this calamity has struck us." So they cast lots and the lot fell on Jonah.8Then they said to him, "Tell us, now! On whose account has this calamity struck us? What is your occupation? And where do you come from? What is your country? From what people are you?"9He said to them, "I am a Hebrew, and I fear the LORD God of heaven who made the sea and the dry land."10Then the men became extremely frightened and they said to him, "How could you do this?" For the men knew that he was fleeing from the presence of the LORD, because he had told them.11So they said to him, "What should we do to you that the sea may become calm for us?"--for the sea was becoming increasingly stormy.12He said to them, "Pick me up and throw me into the sea. Then the sea will become calm for you, for I know that on account of me this great storm has come upon you."13However, the men rowed desperately to return to land but they could not, for the sea was becoming even stormier against them.14Then they called on the LORD and said, "We earnestly pray, O LORD, do not let us perish on account of this man's life and do not put innocent blood on us; for You, O LORD, have done as You have pleased."15So they picked up Jonah, threw him into the sea, and the sea stopped its raging.16Then the men feared the LORD greatly, and they offered a sacrifice to the LORD and made vows.17And the LORD appointed a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah was in the stomach of the fish three days and three nights.
Jonah 2:1
1 Then Jonah prayed to the LORD his God from the stomach of the fish,2and he said, "I called out of my distress to the LORD,
And He answered me.
I cried for help from the depth of Sheol;
You heard my voice.
3"For You had cast me into the deep,
Into the heart of the seas,
And the current engulfed me.
All Your breakers and billows passed over me.
4"So I said, 'I have been expelled from Your sight.
Nevertheless I will look again toward Your holy temple.'
5"Water encompassed me to the point of death.
The great deep engulfed me,
Weeds were wrapped around my head.
6"I descended to the roots of the mountains.
The earth with its bars was around me forever,
But You have brought up my life from the pit, O LORD my God.
7"While I was fainting away,
I remembered the LORD,
And my prayer came to You,
Into Your holy temple.
8"Those who regard vain idols
Forsake their faithfulness,
9But I will sacrifice to You
With the voice of thanksgiving.
That which I have vowed I will pay.
Salvation is from the LORD."
10Then the LORD commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah up onto the dry land.
Jonah 3:1
1 Now the word of the LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying,2"Arise, go to Nineveh the great city and proclaim to it the proclamation which I am going to tell you."3So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great city, a three days' walk.4Then Jonah began to go through the city one day's walk; and he cried out and said, "Yet forty days and Nineveh will be overthrown."5Then the people of Nineveh believed in God; and they called a fast and put on sackcloth from the greatest to the least of them.6When the word reached the king of Nineveh, he arose from his throne, laid aside his robe from him, covered himself with sackcloth and sat on the ashes.7He issued a proclamation and it said, "In Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles: Do not let man, beast, herd, or flock taste a thing. Do not let them eat or drink water.8"But both man and beast must be covered with sackcloth; and let men call on God earnestly that each may turn from his wicked way and from the violence which is in his hands.9"Who knows, God may turn and relent and withdraw His burning anger so that we will not perish."10When God saw their deeds, that they turned from their wicked way, then God relented concerning the calamity which He had declared He would bring upon them. And He did not do it.
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New American Translation// This happens to actually be the ONLY translation that has 17 paragraphs
this is the original
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Jonah 1:15
.åôòæî íéä ãîòéå íéä-ìà åäìèéå äðåé-úà åàùéå
Jonah 1:16
äåäé-úà äìåãâ äàøé íéùðàä åàøééå
.íéøãð åøãéå äåäéì çáæ-åçáæéå
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(you'll need to set your browser to Hewbrew Encoding - Windows)
Incase you can't read it,
"A Sacrifice must be made for Jehova's wrath.
Jehova bid the fish to swollow Jonah for until 3 morning suns had risen."
The translators take a large liberty when they do what they do sometimes, hense why I always say a Translation isn't work spit unless you understand the original meanings.
For one... ZERO mention of the 'Son of Man'... for 2 this clearly states only 3 mornings should pass not 3 nights as well. Although you could probably take that out of context to mean 3 days. (hense a night and morning)
I don't know anything about the Santaists and quite frankly I choose not to, for the role in which they play.
Anti-God does not make you Atheist, you have to believe something is real to be against it; you can't hate something that doesn't exist. (that just stupid)
Secondly it is all about rebelling; again why Lucifarians don't like you because of the differences between you. Quite frankly, how can you follow the teachings of a being that was created just to be evil and cause torment to any soul it can posess?
You read the bible deeply enough you'll realise that something quite profound. What that i'll leave in your hands, if your ready to understand it that's upto you... I don't believe i've really ever met anyone who has understood and wanted to accept certain things in the Biblical tale.
