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FPSC Classic Models and Media / CorePak Vol. 2 - - Weapons Animation Video!

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Jon Fletcher
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hi essex, although i havent heard the sounds, i assume: great job, and you seemed to get alot done in little time!

thanks, about the reloads, some i think were pretty good for a novice such as myself in recording.

im very eager to hear these new sounds

Quote: "LOL; well at least you'll have money for Christmas, the kids are getting the "Kmart special" this year. It's a good thing the economy's doing so well up here (whatever that means)."


hehe, ive still got to pay part for Essex's bill (i think)


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Im happy that You are not the Guy behind the EA Sounds!
Cheers


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You can get a house for 5,000 in Anvil, its quite big, just theres ghosts in it, a really easy quest to finish


yes the arrow dupe trick ONLY works on 360, try not to dupe 1 item more than 250 times at a time, game will freeze

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Arrow dupe works on PC too but the method is a little different... Still have to pull back on the bow but then switch to a different kind of arrow. Soul gem isn't used.
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Quote: "...but for those who play around with the URL's on the website to find the pack will be quite suprised "


Ya, I found the order link and everything, but cause my dad's preping for Haloween he won't buy it till November 1st anyway

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Posted: 31st Oct 2006 06:01 Edited at: 31st Oct 2006 06:07
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So, is this available now? I found the link, but if I were to purchase, would it be available for download on the 1st?

Edit: I just may have been the very first person to buy pack 5
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stormboy
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Well I bought it even though I'm never likely to use
at all!
For 90% of FPSC users this offering is both a godsend
and really superb value for money, as are all the model packs.

This model pack however adds the much sought after hands
to some groovy weapons, it is a solid offering indeed,
congratulations to all involved.
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Jon Fletcher
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Posted: 31st Oct 2006 12:21
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Quote: "You can get a house for 5,000 in Anvil, its quite big, just theres ghosts in it, a really easy quest to finish"


screw that, i bought the manor for 25,000 in skingrad! 3 floors

i found a bug on one of the quests (finding the vamp cure) and when you go to claim your reward he keeps giving you 2500

i see some people have bought it already, thanks to these people! even though im seeing nothing right now

they had to quickly include something earlier, thankfully nobody downloaded it, so when you do go to, you'll get the final instalelr

i'll be using a new thread tommorow as a FAQ, some newcomers may not be aware of how to change hand textures/get rid of hands.

Quote: "and really superb value for money"


does this mean you have received the download?


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Posted: 31st Oct 2006 12:42 Edited at: 31st Oct 2006 12:45
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Yes, I've received and tested it.
I should add since it's the creator asking
me a question, good work mate.
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Luke314pi
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Posted: 31st Oct 2006 14:58
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I have downloaded it and tested it as well. It is beyond awesome. Using the melee weapons against zombies is a very beautiful thing.

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Doughboy
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Posted: 31st Oct 2006 16:05
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I'm downloading it right now.
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Quote: "This pack is for use with FPS Creator games only. It requires your FPS Creator serial number to install. The license does not permit you to use the media in any application other than FPS Creator."


Darn it! Well that pretty much ruins ALOT of my plans. I still don't see how you can limit that, since FPSC was made in DBP, and if you make a custom EXE, your essentially using DBP. Ah well...

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If it was allowed to be used in other applications, the price would go up significantly.


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The bat is hilarious, hehe. Thanks for your hard work.
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Quote: "If it was allowed to be used in other applications, the price would go up significantly."


OK, how much are we talking? I'd give my left [mod edit] (or some serious cash) for a decent pair of rigged, textured hands.

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Your looking £60+ (thats one model, not a whole pack), media is not cheap in the real gaming world, you should be lucky your getting this stuff so cheap.

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That's not for me to hash out, but for all the animated weapons alone, Jon could ask for a high double-digit to three digit figure. Add in the hand variations and eveything else, and the cost could be significant.

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Jon Fletcher
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Posted: 31st Oct 2006 17:11
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thanks for the comments guys, be sure to make some killer games with them!

if im in a good mood i could make custom weapons with full animations and hands for about £40 though i dont always have time, and im more for commercial experience than money.


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Doughboy
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Any chance of releasing the source files so we can add in different weapons, or are we on our own there?
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Jon Fletcher
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Posted: 31st Oct 2006 19:05
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you mean you want to add weapons to those hands?

im afraid that may be a breach of the contract releasing those for free, but i could always make a new pair of hands


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Posted: 31st Oct 2006 19:33 Edited at: 31st Oct 2006 19:34
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Ok, I guess the source files aren't available, thats ok.

Is there a non-glove texture for the hands?
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Jon Fletcher
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Posted: 31st Oct 2006 19:38
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you can easily retexture it, but the one problem which prevented me from doing bare, was a little extrusion that comes out on the wrist, showing the geometry of the glove seam, so it would look like a weird skin fold or soemthing.


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Essex
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Just curious, where is everybody downloading the pack from?

I can't see it on fpscreator.com yet...

Rick.
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Posted: 31st Oct 2006 23:51
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http://www.fpscreator.com/pack5.html

the button will be added tommorow on the official release

its purchased on the fpsc website, but you download it from your "Orders" section on your TGC profile


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I purchased them yesterday and I am downloading now!
Thanx

u would understand if u knew my name was Luke
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It's finally out!!! Yay i buying it now. Congrats Jon!


Soon to be completed. (After Model Pack 5 is released)
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I went to buy it and after telling me my total it times out when pressing proceed I sent a pre-order inquiry thing so hopefully that is sorted out.

Looks good though, can't wait for my internet to work right!

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Congratulations on the release Jon! Looks really great!

It was pure marketing genius the way you dangled it out in front of people, then pulled it away FOR A WHOLE FREAKING MONTH under the guise of "I need to sort out some sounds" or some crap like that.

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Quote: "i could always make a new pair of hands"

I know I'm on foreign territory here (I don't have FPSC ) but I'm pretty sure just a set of generic textured, rigged hands would be very useful for anyone developing an FPS in DBPro/GDK/GDK.NET.

As a non-artist, I could make a passable gun with animations, but I'm sure you (of all people) can appreciate how difficult it is to get good looking hands, fully rigged.

Although you'd probably get a lot of moaners if you advertised a set of hands for sale on the 3DChat board (whinge whinge, why isn't it free?), I bet it would generate some interest.

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sure. its all good practice, its not too much of a job when it comes to mapping anyway.

perhaps i'll make a tutorial on modeling hands, aswell as a free pair

Quote: "under the guise of "I need to sort out some sounds" or some crap like that."


lol


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the only things i can say now...

(1) i have to save up again, due to the crappy cupcakes... they were nice though...
(2) about bloody time!

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Okay, just checked out the pack on the website. They're awesome!
(I'm gonna buy it today.)
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awsome man! Can't wait to buy it!

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Hi Jon
I Just bought a copy of your pack. I can't wait for the download link!!!

thanks dude

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nice pack jon, i really envy your skill at this, hopefully one day i might get around modeling hands, and possibly become as good as you (unlikely) hope you get good sales.

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hey jon, i have a texture problem....
does anyone else have it?
Other than that, love your guns.

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Jon Fletcher
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interesting...the laser texture shows up but the others dont...

check the M4A1 folder in gamecore/guns and make sure there are 2 textures, 1) hand_tex.jpg and 2) m4a1_tex.jpg (or something similar)


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i have both.(see picture)

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I just purchased the pack and hopefully will be receiving it shortly, I found out the problem I was having before was my router

Now just to wait for the download approval...

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It's out!
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I bought the pack Jon, it's absolutely brilliant! Excellent work!!!

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thanks guys

@ Superdean

please list your system specs, preferably your video card aswell, you may not have enough memory for the textures.

if that is the case, perhaps you could scale the m4a1_tex to a 512 texture, to save some vram


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Why not try saving it as .TGA?

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good idea guys. But now i am facing a different problem . When i put an enemy in while i have a weapon, i get an error message. I am just going to try on my laptop, where i have better memory, ram, etc.

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Quote: "If it was allowed to be used in other applications, the price would go up significantly."


You know, I was thinking about it, and realized us DBP users have to pay more for everything - DBP itself is twice as much as FPSC, the Darkmatter Packs & WWII packs are twice as much as the average FPSC pack, and we end up paying a couple hundred in addons. I don't see why TGC won't let us use it in DBP (if we have FPSC of course), especially since the FPSC engine was made in DBP, and therefore, unqestionably, is a DBP Program/Game.

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Hey jon, sorry for bumping this thread. I just wanted to express my appreciation to you for creating these models. Thanks! Because of these models I have decided to use FPSC again. Hopefully soon I will have a few screens of your weapons in action to show you.


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thanks for the kind words RF.

i hope to be working on some more weapons in the future, having seen EAI's new ones, it looks like im finally gonna have to make that jump to normal and specular maps soon if im going to compete (grr)

so i may be on and off for a while practicing some things. i may release some free weapons in the progress

though i think, that the best type of weapons to normal map would purely be old weapons such as swords, axes etc. due to their fine scratches, ceremonial and tribal designs, and there isnt no complex UV mapping to get into (flipped normals etc.)

all in due time.

once again, thanks for your appreciation, i was beggining to get the impression people were thinking less of them after EAI's


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One thing I recommend for the new weapons, do not make the animations float like EAI's. Recoil is a sharp motion with pistols and automatic weapons. Notice that the slide on his pistols come back extremely far. at the point that he has them the slide would fall off the gun. the only weapon that has a some what smooth recoil is a rifle, and they are still jerky in nature, have you ever shot a 7mm? this is my hunting rifle of choice and while it floats a tad it still kicks like a mule. it would be a back and then up motion, and the rifle would travel a bit forward before it gets to the firing position again. as far as the m-16 and the variants when reloading all you do is slap the bolt release to chamber a round.

suggestion:

Work on a dual arms with weapons. I dont think fpsc can handle them as seperate weapons but it would be cool to see some dual 9's. you could also work on a 12 guage both long barrel and sawed off. maybe you can work on a sig sauer x-5 and the x-6 for the next pack.

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i spent too much money on crap waiting for this. i have to wait a while before i can buy it


Hurry up on those characters Jon. please?

How far along are you on those characters anyways? if you have the zombie done from this thread,


http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=77410&b=24

,can you post it? thats the one I want the most.

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