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FPSC Classic Models and Media / CorePak Vol. 2 - - Weapons Animation Video!

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Connor Higgins
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cool!! i just want to go to sleep for a few days so i will wake up and i will be able to order it (smart huh) cant wait

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Posted: 24th Sep 2006 18:24 Edited at: 24th Sep 2006 18:29
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ok, heres the final:



and here is ingame:



excuse my french, but i think they look mod-edit'ing brilliant, compared to the old ones!


the first ingame shot, a bit larger:




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Posted: 24th Sep 2006 18:39
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they look AMAZING!!!!!!!! cool

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WOW! So much better.

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HUGE improvement on the hands!
Maybe add a little seam detail on the glove across the top part where the thumb section joins the rest of the glove.

Nice alpha work on the optic, btw.
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Posted: 24th Sep 2006 20:21 Edited at: 24th Sep 2006 20:27
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thanks guys!

never thought about the stitching for the thumb section, would certainly look a bit better, thanks

when i started making the glove, i used basically a sloid grey colour, which gave me the idea of a bandage like glove, kinda like in martial arts, or something like that, it seems like a nice idea, i'll have a whack at it

ive decided there are going to be more than 3 variations, because there will be variations of the variations (lol) such as injured, for some time in the game where you are fighting for your life rather than more casual levels, and perhaps "contaminated" like one bit in FarCry where your skin goes slightly green and bruised with veins showing up

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just a little comparison picture, you can see a huge difference close up




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Ha! MUCH better! A while ago i recommended you get rid of the burn tool effects, and this is exactly what it should look like.. Well done!

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WOW! Looks great! How bout a female variation (for my mom lol), with a bit less hair?

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@ Smitho

hehe, however will i cope

right, onto the next one!

@ Airslide

female hand? i think that would require me actually editing the geometry...sorry

and hairy? the new one isnt hairy remember, the one on the right is old, which is being replaced by the left one


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here is the new deagle, with new hands, ive added the cocking back motion, just got to re-animate now




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Amazing!!! Don't they slow down the game a bit? (They seem high poly)...

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OH MY GOD!!!! You truly fail to dissapoint.

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Jon - Oh, I wasn't looking at the screen right - I think those would actually do fine.

And your new Deagle looks AWSOME!

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Posted: 24th Sep 2006 21:59 Edited at: 24th Sep 2006 22:04
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nay, they arent high poly, merely the texture doing its job

thanks guys

and ive finished animating it! already, actually pretty simple, when making the changes, i only ripped apart some of the heirarchy, linked it back up, a little rotation here and there and we're good to go, heres a screenshot, of the new cocking back:



despite me sizing down the screens to fit four, this was taken on my laptop with no anisotropic texture filtering, when i get on my desktop, i'll get a quality shot

@ Airslide

thanks, though its not really a new deagle, just a retexture, and some polys added here and there for the cocking back motion, but thanks!

@ Me

right, i still have some time, to the M249! (which by the way, has a very slightly new texture job, though still shamefully on a 512.

this should be fun hopefully should have it done by the end of the night meaning only 2 things left, the other couple hand variations and ofcourse some sound editing for all the reloads


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cool i cant wait so if it all goes well how long (days) willl it be till its done

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perhaps wednesday or slightly later


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cool only 72 hours away

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talk about pressure, heh

ive finished re-animating the M249, i might have to make another video... just testing now


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Sweetness. I'm anxious to see the revamped SAW!

Deagle looks yummy... reminds me that I forgot to paint the slide-stop notch on mine
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I wished I could model, animate and texture like you...

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it takes a lot of time and money to model to that of john. I personally dont have the time or skills to do so, so i think that I will buy your weapon pack. are you able to make custom guns on request for a fee?

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Posted: 25th Sep 2006 00:20 Edited at: 25th Sep 2006 00:22
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cheers guys!

wouldnt call it "revamped, the only texture difference was an attempt to make the main body of the gun less "pixelly" in game, but it looks cool none the less

ive fixed the aniamtions, i'll get a vid when i get on my other comp:



not too shabby, might need a bit of work (i also need to sync the reload sounds again, grrr)

Quote: "are you able to make custom guns on request for a fee?"


yes, but not right now, too busy with the pack and college work

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looking at that screen again, i think i need to bring the arm in a bit, at one part of the animation it gets a bit close to the camera, looking 'stretched'


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Posted: 25th Sep 2006 02:16 Edited at: 25th Sep 2006 02:23
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finished another hand variation!!



i was thinking martial arts style, where they have bandages/cloth wrapped around their fists (or some types of boxing) and it can also double as a mummy! lol

ive got a great idea for the next one... think covert ops, black splinter cell style


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Those would be great hands to use as a weapon themselves. Is the belt animated when you fire?


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Posted: 25th Sep 2006 02:45 Edited at: 25th Sep 2006 02:46
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yes it does, and when you move, jiggles around naturally

in the video, one of the weapons are bare fists, so yes, those hands are a weapon


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Quote: "think covert ops, black splinter cell style"


*thinks covert ops, black splinter cell style* Can't blooming wait!

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heh, yeh it should look pretty neat, and hopefully not too hard to texture, any other reccomendations untill i get back?

i think i'll upload the UV map when i get back so you guys (if you want) can make some customs


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hey jon have you played BLACK?? if so could you make a textures like the hands of him??

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Quote: "have you played BLACK??"


So very disapointed with that game... I cant remember the hands, mind you...

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why i thought it was good

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MUCH better hands! They wouldn't happen to be yours, would they?

One little crit: It looks like maybe you dodged a section of the arm with it set to "midtones", and it turned the skin kinda yellowish instead of just lightening it.

Then again it could just be my cheap monitor, I can't ever trust the colors on it...

Everything looks great!

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no i havnt played the game, ive seen the screens on the back of the case, i know what you mean by the hands, its like a woolen jacket type thing, thats what i meant by covert ops

by splinter cell, i meant that "rubber like" armour, also seen in metal gear solid

@ Bond1

thanks! nope they arent mine, the arm/wrist itself i painted, fingers were from a bit of photo editing

yes, looks a tad yellow, though i still think it looks natural enough, might change the hue a bit in that area


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heres another hand variation, a kind of leather style, for stealth type games (e.g. would be good to use for a night level)



now onto the "black" style


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Cool that looks good cant wait for the "Black" Version

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thanks, heres a shot ingame...



that one more, then s little "bloody" variations for the variations, then thats the hands complete. (also a black skinned of the original)

then just some sounds and i should be done, question is, how am i gonna get/make such nice reload sounds, the plus side is that most of them are small 'clicks and clangs' which i can edit from something like a coke can hitting something, just got to use my imagination

saying that, dont think they'll sound crap, its part of a strange process, mixing the types of sounds you need, to get a good one.


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You know; I've always wondered why I see some artists taking the triggers off all their fire-arms? Is it to save a few more tris?

Looking good by the way; I have no plans that would require the pack, but I may have to grab it anyways. It would make a nice prize for next month's level design comp, if you're up for it.

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Posted: 26th Sep 2006 00:34 Edited at: 26th Sep 2006 00:43
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i don't know why either, it may be to save tri's but i think i also done it, so you don't need to animate it, as stupid as that sounds, just that little flick backwards, but i suppose its just a waste of memory, despite it being the thing which actually gives you control of the gun, lol

yeah im up for giving it as a prize when the time comes

after editing some FPSC sounds, it appears i can get some neat sound effects just from weapons like the "commando" with different alterations for different guns.

but then i cant really sell the pack then, to people intending to use in a DB Pro game, or can i?

people have released texture alterations, thus, sound variations should stay fine right? as long as its distributed to the right people? in any case, just provide information that the models within this pack can be used for any multi-purpose, yet not the sounds...

ah, too confusing, i might just buy some royalty free sounds off the Internet, using them.

but i haven't tried much recording yet, I'll continue to see what i can get...

EDIT:

wait, yes, i can distribute them, because the pack installs into the FPSC directory, so it becomes FPSC material, its only really the person who goes in to grab the models and go elsewhere, that shouldnt be taking the sounds in the first place...right?

as long as FPSC material is contained within FPSC, then its the users responsibility (ofcourse, i will mention NOT to use those sounds elsewhere)

can a mod fill me in on this?


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Jon, since you helped me out, I could do the same for you, in the region of reload sounds..

I've done some of my own already ,just messing with effects in Reason over, like you said, coke cans and carkeys (wicked for the noise of bullets entering a gun from a feed). Anyway, if you want me to do some then gimme a shout, I'm too annoyed with FPSC to do any maps tonight anyway.

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great, that would be very helpful, thanks, consider that payment unneccisary

it may just be because its night, and i cant really make much noise, i will continue to attempt these tommorow


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I'll do you some samples now and email them over.

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Crap, I would buy it, but I am a [mod edit] and I am saving my money 4 bigger things... Anyways, I loved this stuff! I SURE would download it if it was 4 free... :p

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thanks butter fingers

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i think everyone would download them if they were free, lol


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Cheers Jon Whens the release date?

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hopefully wednesday or possibly a couple days later, i might need an extra day for final testing and the sounds, but butters has kindly provided some resources that i will put to use tommorow aswell as my own.

cheers


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hehe, thanks

'nother hand, went for a cotton jacket feel, dunno if it came out right, i would have had to actually edit the model of the hand to get it looking more accurate, still looks nice, sorry for posting loads of small screens by the way, still looks nice though



ok, im off now, i'll be cracking on with the sounds tommorow (the bloody variations for these hands shouldnt take long)

also, good news, i got a reply back from Rich, and they said they will feature it in the newletter, though it might be a bit late for october issue, and they said i may need to wait for the november issue, great news none the less


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I'll buy this as soon as I can.
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Finally !!!

This pack is awesome. I'll buy it as soon as it's released.

One question: this pack can be used not only with FPSC, right? Will you include a license.txt in the file to download?

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Jon, that new hand set looks perfect for Hostile Environment

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Theres a problem ive just noticed with the Sniper Rifle. Its is a bolt action rifle, and when the bolt is pulled back, a new round is not put in, like the animation shows, it is to release the old shell, and then the new round moves up into the chamber from the clip. Even WWII's Springfield Sniper Rifle used a bolt action/clip.
I think you might want to rethink that, if you want it to be realistic

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