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FPSC Classic Models and Media / CorePak Vol. 2 - - Weapons Animation Video!

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Jon Fletcher
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thanks guys,

@ Smitho:

actually, a new round is inserted, just before the bolt is pushed back into place, its just hard to see, i'll get a screen if you want, but i think its just the hand covering it up, so i'll go onto the no-hands version and make a video...later.

@ Pulsar Coder

yes, it can be used outside of FPSC, for ANY purpose, just not redistribution. i will include a license, i am currently having some small troubles with sounds, and may have to edit some stock ones, so you MAY not be able to use the sounds outside of FPSC, but im trying my best to make unique ones

right, off now

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PLEASE make unique ones, cause I'd love to use these in a DBP project!

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Quote: "a new round is inserted, just before the bolt is pushed back into place, its just hard to see"


Thats my point.. its not supposed to. What should happen on the animation is:

1) Pull trigger.
2) Pull bolt action - Empty shell is released.

For the reload:

1) Bolt is pulled back, but not put back to original place, and clip is removed from underneath the rifle.
2) New clip is inserted.
3) Bolt part is put back.

I hope you understand - check attachment to see where clip goes.

Rifles never replace rounds after each shot, Im sure, although this always used to apply to much older weapons such as muskets (More like miniature cannons )

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Jon Fletcher
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Posted: 26th Sep 2006 21:46
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well, ive never used a sniper rifle, so i wouldnt understand, however this one doesnt have a magazine to obtain rounds from, rather individual bullets, i have seen some sniper rifles (without magazines) which have rounds inserted individualy, obviously, not more modern ones such as that M24.

the animation is sufficient though, as ive said, this one doesnt have a mag like the M24, so whereelse are the bullets going to go?

im having some small troubles with the sounds, and i shouldnt be working with my laptop for this. some have come out alright, i'll put them and butters' to use

it seems it wont be out tommorow, there will be a small delay of a day or 2, probably available for friday. but i'll try my best to get these bits finished quickly!


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argh what time do you think for friday cus i want to get this before i go on holiiday!! i dont think ill get it in time??

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Posted: 26th Sep 2006 22:10 Edited at: 26th Sep 2006 22:16
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i don't know, right now im very frustrated anyway, i cant get any peace where i am, my idiotic brother shows no regards to the project, and im finding it very hard to get any silence to do a decent recording, let alone the space and time given to work with the equipment given to me (VERY little)

I am NOT a sound artist, the pressure to have it done quickly isnt very appealing either.

sorry guys, may have to edit the stocks' to make some good sounds, this doesnt mean they will come out exactly like the stock weapon sounds, obviously i'll edit them to sound cooler, you just probably wont be able to use those sounds outside of FPSC

and even if you are using this outside of FPSC, you should consider yourself lucky to get the models alone for $20

...updates soon, hopefully

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AK isnt coming out too bad actually, just needed a bit of clipping in areas, may come out ncie after all


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Posted: 26th Sep 2006 22:18
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Word, thanks Jon


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Posted: 26th Sep 2006 22:45
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Quote: "the animation is sufficient though"


Fair does

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Posted: 26th Sep 2006 23:07
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sorry for sounding so mean in my last post guys, i think its always when i start out with something new, im already getting a hang of things, ive composed an almost perfect reload sound for the AK, made from some clciking sounds and some tools clashing, it was just my microphone doesnt pickup sound enough and i wasnt amplifying it as much as it needed

so it seems things are going well so far (despite only finishing one weapon reaload sound) i have managed to get a basic feel for it, hopefully i dont need to resort to other sounds, and can make them all out of my compositions


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Posted: 27th Sep 2006 00:41 Edited at: 27th Sep 2006 00:43
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My .02 on the sniper rifle... I think it's fine and believable.

Plenty of tactical bolt actions have a "short throw" which means the bolt doesn't have to be moved a great distance to do it's work. Also, many (including the widely used Rem 700 series) have internal magazines which are not removed and are filled somewhat like how Jon has animated.

Like he says, it's more than sufficient... FPSC lacks support for all the states that are needed for realistic firearms so it can be infuriating if you know your stuff. IE; no different states for empty vs. tactical reload and no empty/hold open state.

Keep up the good work and best of luck on the SFX!
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thanks EAI, its all practice anyway, and in alot of games, there are different ways for reloading, which can be misleading, yet they work perfectly for the user.

so far, VERY good (for me) on the SFX, plenty of left over airsofts lying around which i put to great use just a simple adjustment which i forgot to do before made the sounds so much clearer, all is going well so far

so hopefully tommorow i can get them ALL finished, all i need is no distractions


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Exellent job Fletcher , but I think the only thing this is missing is a few different huds.

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Jon.... just wondering, are the sword and bow as shown in a previous thread in this pack? If yes, can they also be used by enemies?

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i couldnt get the bow working, because i couldnt succesfully get it to bend right with bones, and FPSC was being annoying with the heirarchy, so no, might release them for free though

Quote: "Exellent job Fletcher , but I think the only thing this is missing is a few different huds.
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umm, all the huds for the weapons are different, if you mean the crosshairs, i agree, i might change a few


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That's a pitty, could have used it for a fantasy game I'm working on. But even if ít's non animated I guess it still would be fine for me, so hopefully you'll be able to release it. How about the sword? Same problem or wii that be released for free also?

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jon, your work is just wonderful as ever. I especially like the M4 grenade launcher and the baseball bat

But i have one suggestion

about the axe....in your video it doesnt look like you slash with
the axe blade. i mean, how would you kill someone with an axe ?
cant find the right words -_-

imagine a huge jackhammer. the axe animation is nearly the same.

ps: never seen such a great work before for fpsc

yeah...thats the ticket !
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You kill a guy with an axe the same way you kill some one with a knife or another sharp object.

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maybe you could make an animation for the M4, so it sets it to the grenade launcher mode. maybe the Scankeycode= thing thats it in the update, maybe if you could press a certain key on the ketboard, i.e Y or something, then maybe it would play the aninmation of the gun changing, then change the gun to the M$ launcher.

just an idea.

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Posted: 27th Sep 2006 20:11
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@ Benjamin

well the only thing left of that genre would be the sword so it was kinda pointless, instead keep this pack modern, i'll release that for free though aswell

@ Mr FlowerKohl

thanks, the axe swings sideways, instead of straight down, like the guys' really lugging it, it looks right when i attack someone with it, but thanks for the suggestion

@ Lewis

not possible, or atleast to my knoledge, i think all the weapon scripts are actually in the source, rather than external, so im not sure


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the last handds look cool but if you finish it on friday and i order it in the morning will i be able to d/l it when i get back from school?? (3:25) cus i am going on holiday at about 5ish and im taking the laptop and there will be no internet connection there??

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yeh, should be, ive got a whole free day tommorow, if i get it up for sale tommorow, i'll be able to meet those purchasng straight away with a quick transaction.

But i will be checking my email alot, and i will be hosting it, so i can send from any workstation.

finishing some sounds now, i'll let you peeps know how it goes


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thats cool i cant wait

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Quote: "well the only thing left of that genre would be the sword so it was kinda pointless, instead keep this pack modern, i'll release that for free though aswell"


Cool.... looking forward to the fantasy weapons and also still to the characters. I've looked at the knife, axe and bat aswell, but with some retexturing they may be suitable for a more fantasy like genre also. So, even though none of my games uses modern weapons, I may still get the pack because of these items. I did get CorePak 1 and am really happy with it, good items and good quality, so this pack should be good (even better) aswell!

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thank you benjamin

ive completed quite alot of sounds now, only a few more, then some tests, quick runs through photoshop on stuff like true black etc. and it may be available for tommorow


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c663 cant wa5t and s6rry f6r s-e335ng the c60- 5s 0ess5ng 4-

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Great... looking forward to the release! Good luck with finishing the final details, I know they can be a pain at times.

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Please learn to use real words when you can post again, Connor.


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what is this desecration taking place in my thread? shoo scallywags!

anyway, nearly done with the sounds only 4 weapons left to do now


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Connor is on a 2 week vacation; in which time I hope he learns to speak in the vernacular. His last post wasn't approved as he attempted to swear while speaking gibberish.


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Maybe his kayboard has packed in

Cant wait for pack Jon

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so if you swear, you get a 2 week ban? kinda harsh, lol

im off for a while, i might have a video a bit later, if i can get fraps working with sound


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sigh...

still waiting patiently, but starting to fidget and look at the game ads...



OH NO!! a cheap game! i can't resist. i gotta go get a game thats on sale. i just have to find more money for the pack.

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Looking good jon, and take your time, despite us all wanting it so baddly *tenses muscles and explodes* *respawns* we can wait patiently so do your best!

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NOOB! you so totaly PWNED yourself!

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I don't know what it is or what it should be...

But then again I've never caught on to terms like that...


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John, when the Jackhammer fires, afterwards does it have some sorta click for exchanging the shells, or does this happen somewhat silently or what? I'm kinda curious.

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ooooohhhh....


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...ok, a lot of random posts.

almost done with the sounds, couple more now

Quote: "John, when the Jackhammer fires, afterwards does it have some sorta click for exchanging the shells, or does this happen somewhat silently or what? I'm kinda curious.
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the barrel rolling? not yet, but i might add it quickly

i have to run some errands right now, i'll be back to finish these sounds quickly


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Can't wait!

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all the reload sounds are now complete

running some tests now, final touches, then i'll create the installer, and we should be good to go for tommorow, or later tonight (its 7PM here in england)


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