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Ortu
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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 18:21
you know how to use that page button below your posts right?

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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 18:26
Quote: "The Oatmeal comic in question borderline encourages piracy"


If you think that then you're missing the point of the comic. But it doesn't matter, it's not that great a piece anyway.
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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 18:27
Weird, I've been put on post approval for something? But whoever did it was too lazy to PM me and say why.
Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 18:34
@MrValentine:

Indeed I do, however there was an old specific one that wasn't in my list of threads, because I've posted over 200.... like I said, multiple threads a day back in the day.


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Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 20:04
Lol, that was me too! Ah, there were probably days when I posted like 3 or 4 threads... Oh, good times! I really cannot believe I have been here over 4 years.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 20:25
Yodaman Jer - I see

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Quote: "I really cannot believe I have been here over 4 years"

I hit 5 earlier this year. Things sure have changed around here since then.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 22:24
Quote: "Weird, I've been put on post approval for something? But whoever did it was too lazy to PM me and say why"


The mods don't need to PM people for every decision that's made, and if you don't know why you're on moderation then you clearly don't understand the AUP that you signed up to.

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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 22:50
I'm now learning how to use shaders in blender.



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Posted: 15th Nov 2014 23:04 Edited at: 15th Nov 2014 23:28
Quote: "The mods don't need to PM people for every decision that's made"
I don't think it would hurt to just give a brief explanation eh? Think about most legal systems, they all inform someone why they are being prosecuted. Or if a parent punishes a child, the punishment may not be effective if the child's mistake is not explained. Of course, small moderations such as post edits certainly don't elicit any need for a PM or such, but perhaps situations such as slaps and bans could use a brief explanation.


Quote: "and if you don't know why you're on moderation then you clearly don't understand the AUP that you signed up to."
I definitely don't know the situation at hand here, but I will add my two cents, in the most civil manner I can. The moderators' decisions don't always adhere strictly to AUP policies (which is not a bad thing), as they are told to moderate at their discretion. Because of this, even a full understanding of the AUP may not allow one to fully understand why they have been moderated in certain cases. Many people will, by a moderator's definition, be behaving in a poor manner, while the person truly believes that they are behaving in a civilized manner; it's just who they are. If the AUP doesn't cover the exact situation at hand, I honestly believe there is a chance the person may not know why they have been moderated.

Case in point, I myself still do not know why I was banned a couple years ago. I am definitely not requesting to know why, since that is very irrelevant now two years later.

I don't think the moderators need to automatically go and explain every action, but I believe that a member has a right to know why they have been moderated, if they ask.

That is just my two cents, and please know that I am not in any way trying to start an argument. I intend for this entire post to come across in a very calm and civilized manor. I am just trying to provide a slightly different view point.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 00:08 Edited at: 16th Nov 2014 00:08
Quote: "Weird, I've been put on post approval for something? But whoever did it was too lazy to PM me and say why."


You just double posted, that halves your points.



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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 00:18
Quote: "and if you don't know why you're on moderation then you clearly don't understand the AUP that you signed up to."


Can't find any PM in the AUP either. how do find massage???
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 00:18
Just for the record (sorry I can't edit posts while on post moderation) I wasn't condoning piracy at all, I just thought it was a funny comic.
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 01:42
Looking nice TheComet
Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 04:17
Ugh, work today sucked.

I got called in 2.75 hours early and had to go through old boxes of grocery bags and replace them with "New, Stronger Bags". So I went to the stock room and removed all the old full boxes (23, of which contain 100 "wickets", which in turn equals 50 individual plastic grocery bags), and then of the bags that were on the lanes I had to count and get rid of those.

So, in total, there was 23 full, unopened boxes, and 153 individual wickets.

Let's see, that would equal...

Boxes:
23*100 = 2,300
2,300*50 = 115,000

Individual Wickets:
153*50 = 7,650

Total: 122,650 bags.

Thankfully it only took me half an hour to figure that out, but still, kind of annoying haha.


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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 04:43 Edited at: 17th Nov 2014 02:38
For anyone who watched the previous video, here's an update:

[Mod Edit]Please use a link for videos with swearing plastered across the thumbnail![/Mod Edit] - Link to Video - WARNING contains moderate course language
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 10:09
Some actions don't need explanation. When you post what is considered to be the most vulgar word in the English language, surrounded by other material that is not appropriate for a family-friendly oriented site, you can expect to be moderated.

The mod discussion was about whether it should have constituted a ban, so post moderation is the 'lite' option. It also puts another nail in the coffin of this thread.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 12:56
Quote: "When you post what is considered to be the most vulgar word in the English language, surrounded by other material that is not appropriate for a family-friendly oriented site, you can expect to be moderated."


Oops, didn't notice that was the word it contained. Should have been obvious but I guess I missed it. Oh well, thanks for going lightly on me.
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 14:37
Quote: "Oops, didn't notice that was the word it contained. Should have been obvious but I guess I missed it. Oh well, thanks for going lightly on me."


I would say try to be more careful, I would hazard a guess that the slap was because it's not an isolated incident. Mistakes happen, I'd probably be willing to give the benefit of the doubt on that one, but let's not let this sort of thing keep happening.

Personally, I don't see issue with mature content within reason (and within the AUP, of course) just as long as there's a link and a warning. Like when I've posted videos with bad language in it.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 14:51
Personally, I don't see issue with mature points within reason

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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 16:30
Quote: "family-friendly oriented site"

To my mind this is the target, though I`m happy if something outside of this boundary is posted so long as its hidden with code tag/link without offending material, with a warning of course and not something the AUP defines as unacceptable(as outlined by Seppuku). The last thing I need is for there to be a minor present when all I`m doing is coding and reading the forum and when I open a page the first thing the minor sees is material that is not appropriate. So mature points of any nature really need to not be visible, I picked up Easy Amos when I was 11 years old, my best friend picked up basic for C64 when he was 7, another friend learned to code on the Sam Coupe at a similar age, so I think its safe to say that these days its reasonable to assume some children may well be viewing this site at a very early age. If I was a parent to one of these children I certainly would take a look at this site prior to allowing them to view it on their own, its common sense to do so and I suspect there is every chance that the time of viewing might make me think this is a suitable site while at other times I might have seen inappropriate content, after all one can not expect moderators to be available all the time, plus there is also the case of the length of time it would take moderators to make decisions especially when the site is busy. Neither can a parent view every single thread and post to preview the site, there are too many for that to be feasible. Its a tough call really, I have made reports in the past and its been days before content has been removed so now I`m stuck with ensuring I`m alone when viewing here and I don`t like this fact one bit. To my mind EVERYONE who posts here should take the time to check and double check their posts, also its my opinion that if you want to post mature content then you should post it on a mature site, if your unsure if something you wish to post is mature then assume the latter. I have noticed in a lot of cases the intent is to be funny, I like comedy as much as anybody else, for example Frankie Boyle is one of my favourites, but I don`t see humour as an excuse to post borderline content, Tickld is a good site to post this sort of stuff, not here.
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 17:29 Edited at: 16th Nov 2014 21:14
[EDIT] removed.

I like offending people. People who get offended should be offended. -- Linus Torvalds
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 17:44
I hope that's not a log-out link, since Richard made that a banable offense a while back.
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 18:06
Unless you want to get logged out, don't click that link

Wern't you banned for posting that exact thing in this thread a while ago?

Say ONE stupid thing and it ends up as a forum signature forever. - Neuro Fuzzy
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 18:11
Quote: "Wern't you banned for posting that exact thing in this thread a while ago?"

He was, and I hope that this thread doesn't continue in the direction it's going. Let's try to be a bit more productive now.

Just started reading the original DragonBall series (only ever watched the anime, never read the manga). It's been a while since I've seen the anime though, I hope they release those on blu-ray like they're currently doing for DBZ.

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Well if it does not belong on the forum then um it does not belong on the forum as per the AUP, not difficult to understand, but hey we all have our own learning curve.
If it is mature content that is considered to be within the AUP then it should be as stated - just an opinion of course.
However mature a posts content is when posted in this manner, prevention of a post that also includes immature behavior, is something that although acceptable, can not be entirely avoided. Common sense should always be applied when posting, working on the assumption that the poster actually has some to utilize.
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 18:51 Edited at: 16th Nov 2014 18:53
Quote: "Wern't you banned for posting that exact thing in this thread a while ago?"


Yes, but I was spamming it on the Newcomer's board.

I like offending people. People who get offended should be offended. -- Linus Torvalds
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 20:30
Quote: "and I hope that this thread doesn't continue in the direction it's going. Let's try to be a bit more productive now."
Agreed.

Comet, I would highly recommend removing that link there. I think you were banned not necessarily for spamming the link, but because the link had the potential to permanently render one's account unusable if they did not have their password memorized.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 21:52
So I find out tonight that I have access to 50 Vista Business licences and 100 Windows 7 Professional licences...

Now all I need is 145 more computers...

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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 21:54 Edited at: 16th Nov 2014 21:56
So I find out tonight that I have access to 10 Business Posting Competition Points and 0 Posting Competition Pages...

Now all I need is 145 more points...

I like offending people. People who get offended should be offended. -- Linus Torvalds
Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 22:01
I get the points?

Yes, yes I do.


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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 22:03
Quote: "I get the points?

Yes, yes I do."


I'm not sure how it works, but there are two post counters, namely the in-thread one and the one on the GC board. When a noob-slapped user posts, one of the post counters is correct and one of them isn't.

I like offending people. People who get offended should be offended. -- Linus Torvalds
Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 22:08
Oh crud, completely forgot about that.

I probably don't get the points then, I think it's the one on the OUTSIDE of the thread that's correct, not the inside one.


Meh game development blaugh!
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 22:10
GC counter counts the submitted posts, and the thread counter counts the number of displayed posts, it would seem.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 22:11 Edited at: 16th Nov 2014 22:11
Quote: "GC counter counts the submitted posts, and the thread counter counts the number of displayed posts, it would seem."


Can confirm. So now it depends whether he posted before me or after me.

I like offending people. People who get offended should be offended. -- Linus Torvalds
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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 22:38
Quote: "It also puts another nail in the coffin of this thread."

I'd rather you ban the offending user rather than kill the thread(again).

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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 22:45
^ this

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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 23:40
^ that

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V this

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Posted: 16th Nov 2014 23:51
points[/b][b][/b][b][u][/u]

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bud okay artificial intelligence man



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Darn Karl Just ate Vladimir's and Dan's ugly dinner 64

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WOW. I don't come here for 2 days and THIS is what happens?? Well done guys. Some of the other mods are wanting the post-comp to be locked again.

Quote: "[mod edit] I don't like to step on other moderator's toes and remove something they didn't, but this is not appropriate for these forums[/mod edit]"


No no, go for it! I would have felt like I was being too strict removing that image even though I thought it shouldn't be here, so it's nice to know other mods agree.

Quote: "Case in point, I myself still do not know why I was banned a couple years ago. I am definitely not requesting to know why, since that is very irrelevant now two years later."


The notes for that ban are very non-descriptive, so I couldn't tell you what the reason was if I wanted to

Quote: "To my mind this is the target, though I`m happy if something outside of this boundary is posted so long as its hidden with code tag/link without offending material, with a warning of course and not something the AUP defines as unacceptable(as outlined by Seppuku). The last thing I need is for there to be a minor present when all I`m doing is coding and reading the forum and when I open a page the first thing the minor sees is material that is not appropriate. So mature points of any nature really need to not be visible, I picked up Easy Amos when I was 11 years old, my best friend picked up basic for C64 when he was 7, another friend learned to code on the Sam Coupe at a similar age, so I think its safe to say that these days its reasonable to assume some children may well be viewing this site at a very early age. If I was a parent to one of these children I certainly would take a look at this site prior to allowing them to view it on their own, its common sense to do so and I suspect there is every chance that the time of viewing might make me think this is a suitable site while at other times I might have seen inappropriate content, after all one can not expect moderators to be available all the time, plus there is also the case of the length of time it would take moderators to make decisions especially when the site is busy. Neither can a parent view every single thread and post to preview the site, there are too many for that to be feasible. Its a tough call really, I have made reports in the past and its been days before content has been removed so now I`m stuck with ensuring I`m alone when viewing here and I don`t like this fact one bit. To my mind EVERYONE who posts here should take the time to check and double check their posts, also its my opinion that if you want to post mature content then you should post it on a mature site, if your unsure if something you wish to post is mature then assume the latter. I have noticed in a lot of cases the intent is to be funny, I like comedy as much as anybody else, for example Frankie Boyle is one of my favourites, but I don`t see humour as an excuse to post borderline content, Tickld is a good site to post this sort of stuff, not here."


+3000

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In other news, my Samsung 840 Evo 250GB SSD will be arriving today! Hooray! Having finally bought BF4 I'll be able to load the maps in <5 minutes!

Also, my Unity physics-based sandbox game (yes, another, but this one is a bit different) is coming along very quickly. Today I'll be writing the input manager code to give GUI windows levels of priority to a key. So say you have two GUI windows open on top of each other and they both have code that closes them when you press Escape. Normally, they'd both close, which is really annoying when you just want to close one. I can't just have a bool which marks whether Input.GetKeyDown has been used this frame because the order in which Update() is called is arbitrary. So, I'll make each window "register" its own function with the manager, and then when the key is pressed, the function with the highest priority will be called. This will work if I can work out how to pass functions into functions in Unity

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Posted: 17th Nov 2014 03:41 Edited at: 17th Nov 2014 03:55
You sir, have post 44,444.

Quote: "Some of the other mods are wanting the post-comp to be locked again."
As Vice President of the forum, and as a long time Posting Competitioneer, I request that you do everything in your power to prevent this. I am sure you also desire for the Posting Competition to stay open.

Just an idea, perhaps we could ban problematic users from posting here in this thread? Not by banning them from the forums, but by threatening to take moderative action if they do post in this thread. That would, it seems to me, be a good way of protecting the longevity of this thread, and also preventing this thread from making the forums look junky, all while taking minimum moderative action.

Yeah, 'moderative' is a word I made up.

Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 17th Nov 2014 04:12
I'm actually on the moderator's side on this issue.

Certain users (who shall remain unnamed) seem to think that this thread is for posting nothing but rubbish. This thread has virtually no useful content whatsoever, and even if it did, you would have to go through every single page and post to find anything. I have posted a lot of rubbish in this thread over the years, so I know what I'm talking about.

As long as this thread stays open, there's the repeated chance of someone posting something offensive, inappropriate, or even worse, political/religious

It's been a lot of fun, but really, do we NEED this thread to stick around? You can't possibly tell me it serves a useful function anymore. Back in the day, it was left open to collect all of the other rubbish posts that would have polluted other threads, but lately it seems to have caused more problems than it's worth.

I honestly think we should just put a lock on it and call it a day to prevent further issues. But this is just my two cents of course. I still click the "Newest Post" button to see what's posted, as I continue to hope it will be something funny. But it usually isn't anymore.

The best thread to come around lately has been mr Handy's comic strip thread, that is pure TGC gold. We need more threads like that around!


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Posted: 17th Nov 2014 04:20
Quote: "seem to think that this thread is for posting nothing but rubbish"


True, but isn't that the whole point of the thread? To capture the nonsense that would otherwise be posted on other threads?

Quote: "I'd rather you ban the offending user rather than kill the thread(again).
"


Agreed, ban the bronies.
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Quote: "As long as this thread stays open, there's the repeated chance of someone posting something offensive, inappropriate, or even worse, political/religious

It's been a lot of fun, but really, do we NEED this thread to stick around? You can't possibly tell me it serves a useful function anymore. Back in the day, it was left open to collect all of the other rubbish posts that would have polluted other threads, but lately it seems to have caused more problems than it's worth.

I honestly think we should just put a lock on it and call it a day to prevent further issues. But this is just my two cents of course. I still click the "Newest Post" button to see what's posted, as I continue to hope it will be something funny. But it usually isn't anymore."


I mostly agree with what you're saying, but since we have good folk like Clonkex watching the posts these issues aren't really issues. I'd say the posting competition has a place as long as he can be bothered to keep an eye on this thread. If he eventually gives up I don't blame him, there's a lot of crap posted here.
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Posted: 17th Nov 2014 04:53
Quote: "You sir, have post 44,444."


Awesome hehe

Quote: "I am sure you also desire for the Posting Competition to stay open."


I do indeed

Quote: "Just an idea, perhaps we could ban problematic users from posting here in this thread? Not by banning them from the forums, but by threatening to take moderative action if they do post in this thread. That would, it seems to me, be a good way of protecting the longevity of this thread, and also preventing this thread from making the forums look junky, all while taking minimum moderative action."


Yeah... not sure if I like that idea.

Quote: "Yeah, 'moderative' is a word I made up."


Don't worry, I made up 'moderatory' earlier and I've seen BiggAdd say "modly duties"

Quote: "As long as this thread stays open, there's the repeated chance of someone posting something offensive, inappropriate, or even worse, political/religious"


Not really, since I'll be watching far more closely. The sudden burst of "bad stuff" that was posted within the last few days caught me by surprise because I'd been at work.

Quote: "True, but isn't that the whole point of the thread? To capture the nonsense that would otherwise be posted on other threads?"


Yes, but only as long as it complies with the AUP.

Quote: "I mostly agree with what you're saying, but since we have good folk like Clonkex watching the posts these issues aren't really issues."


You mean shouldn't be issues.

Quote: "Agreed, ban the bronies."

Quote: "I'd say the posting competition has a place as long as he can be bothered to keep an eye on this thread. If he eventually gives up I don't blame him, there's a lot of crap posted here."


Ahem... you do realise it was primarily you who caused this fuss, don't you Seditious?

Gotta go quickly do some TAFE before Mum gets home!

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Quote: " It's been a lot of fun, but really, do we NEED this thread to stick around? You can't possibly tell me it serves a useful function anymore. Back in the day, it was left open to collect all of the other rubbish posts that would have polluted other threads, but lately it seems to have caused more problems than it's worth. "

If this thread goes then I'll have very little reason to stick around. TGC has dropped support for any products I did buy from them and aren't developing anything new that I'm interested in. I doubt I'm the only one to feel this way. I really stick around to help with some C/C++/Java questions people have and to talk to you guys.

To lose a now-sizable chunk of the community's (at least in GC) participation due to the inability of certain users to adhere to the AUP feels backwards to me.

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