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Eric T
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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 04:03
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Quote: "That wasn't a nipple twist. Wow whoever said that is kinda dumb"


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Benjamin
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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 04:58
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Quote: "That french tc deserved the red card."

As did that Italian deserve the headbutt.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 05:36
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Alright well I am not gonna go over the basics of nipple twisting but he was just grabbing his chest to defend him. The french guy didn't do anything for like 30 sec later
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Michael S
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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 05:44
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Yah...italy.......i wish brazil had won


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Crazy Ninja
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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 07:33
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gamemaker alex try like 10 seconds. I am disappointed with that red card on zidane for that headbutt but at least it was a good head butt that put the freak of an italian on the ground . Anyway sad that Italy won but oh well. france should go off knowing they were the better team but just couldn't quite pull it together.
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Miguel Melo
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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 18:09 Edited at: 10th Jul 2006 18:09
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Quite unbelievably, Mr. Zinadine "Pardon, mais je dois headbutt you" Zidane gets the Golden Ball award.

Don't get me wrong, I kinda like the guy and he did play well throughout the Cup, but surely that blatant agression should have precluded him from the award?

This is a seriously mixed up world...

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 18:18
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I read the french news today (I'm french :p)
Marco Materazzi said to Zidane : "you're a dirty terrorist"
that's why zidane headbutted him.

Here is the translation of the news I get today :

PARIS (Reuters) - organization S.O.S Racism required of the international Federation of football (FIFA) an investigation into the circumstances which surrounded expulsion of the leader of French play Zinedine Zidane for a blow of head, at the time of the finale of World of football against Italy. “According to several sources very quite informed in the world of football, it would seem that the Italian player Marco Materazzi treated Zinedine Zidane of “dirty terrorist””, the organization in an official statement writes. “If this assumption were confirmed, the Italian player would be thus the author of a racist matter”, adds it. “Whereas the whole of World was placed under the sign of the fight against racism (...), we ask the FIFA to be with the height of its declarations.” “This is why S.O.S Racism requires with firmness of the FIFA to make all the light on this dispute and that the sanctions provided for by the official regulation are applied if necessary”, S.O.S Racism concludes. The leader of French play was expelled ten minutes before the end of the prolongations at the time of the finale of the World cup of football, finally gained with the shootings with the goals by Italy, Sunday evening in Berlin. Zinedine Zidane was sanctioned for a blow of head carried to the thorax of Marco Materazzi, who had girdled it a few moments before and that one had seen, on television, speech with the French footballer.

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Miguel Melo
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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 18:41 Edited at: 10th Jul 2006 18:41
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Yeah, I kinda expected it would be something like that seeing as Zidane is a Muslim. Shameful stuff, really, if that's what Materazzi said.

Still, Zidane is normally a calm guy and he should let that kind of crap get to him. I mean, you can half excuse that such things may drive people like Christiano Ronaldo or Rooney up the wall (seeing as they are young) but it shouldn't get to seasoned people like Zidane or Figo (or many other senior players).

And, even if it does get to you, don't headbutt a guy in an open field when 6 billion are watching. It just looks bad LOL

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French gui
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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 19:00
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If that bloody Italian said that, Zidane should have kicked him in the teeth. Now this is not sure so, just wait what Zidane have to say about it.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 19:15
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Blimey. At first, I thought it was a pretty dumb insult to be expected from an 11 year old but now I've read that, I think Materazzi definitely deserved the headbutt. It's a pretty disgraceful underhand way of cheating. I know I can't judge the whole Italian league on one player, but if everyone's like him then I'm not surprised about the match fixing anymore.

Even so, Zidane should have been mature enough, and have the experience to know he's being wound up on purpose. Insults like that, though, can be hard to deal with.

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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people dont seem to understand the whole fact of "muslim=terrorist" being an insult, that danish newspaper can sort of be forgiven for being first time and all, but you woulda thought people would have learnt from it.

i could go on but i don't wanna destroy this thread, though i fear i may have already done, but it has to be said.

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Posted: 10th Jul 2006 21:36 Edited at: 10th Jul 2006 21:37
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last news from France :
http://actualite.free.fr/france/3_2006-07-10T194236Z_01_GAR063378_RTRIDST_0_OFRTP-MONDIAL-FRANCE-ZIDANE-ENQUETE-20060710.html
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PARIS (Reuters) - organization S.O.S Racism required of the international Federation of football (FIFA) an investigation into the circumstances which surrounded expulsion of Zinedine Zidane at the time of the finale of World against Italy. “According to several sources very quite informed in the world of football, it would seem that the Italian player Marco Materazzi treated Zinedine Zidane of “dirty terrorist””, the organization in an official statement writes. “If this assumption were confirmed, the Italian player would be thus the author of a racist matter”, adds it. “Whereas the whole of World was placed under the sign of the fight against racism (...), we ask the FIFA to be with the height of its declarations.” The leader of French play was expelled ten minutes before the end of the prolongations for a blow of head carried to the thorax of Marco Materazzi, who had girdled it a few moments before and that one had seen, on television, speech with the French footballer. The Italian defender contradicted Monday to have treated the French captain of “dirty terrorist”. “I do not even know what this word wants to say”, it declared at the Italian agency of Ansa press. S.O.S Racism requires “with firmness” of the FIFA to inquire and apply “if necessary” the sanctions provided for by its regulation.

Mrap also claims FIFA of “measurements and sanctions dissuasive being able to go until radiation against the clubs, the players, the supporters, trainers taking part in the propaganda of racist hatred”. The Movement against racism and for the friendship between the people estimates that “nothing can justify that one makes justice oneself” but it judges “impossible that” the remarks of Materazzi are unpunished if they are proven.

Mrap also protests against the declarations of the former Italian minister for the Reforms, Roberto Calderoli. After the victory of Azzurri, this last congratulated a victory on the Italian identity, “of a team which aligned of Lombards, Neapolitan, Venetian and of the Calabrian” carrying it vis-a-vis a French team which “sacrificed her own identity by aligning Blacks, islamist and Communists”. Calderoli, member of the League of North, was constrained to leave the Berlusconi government last February after having caused an outcry while wearing a Tee-shirt reproducing one of the Danish caricatures of Mahomet.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 18:09
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Your french is amazing! It's so amazing it HURTS!

Quote: "a blow of head"
You really need a better translator. That just sounds wrong.

I think Zidane had every right to head butt that italian. And he shouldn't have been given a red card, it had nothing to do with the game, the ball was far away. Those Italians were playing pretty dirty anyways, I mean a french player got injured about every 5 minutes.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 19:19
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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 21:10
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Quote: "And he shouldn't have been given a red card"
From every football game I have ever seen then yeah, yeah he should have got a red card. No worries. Only doubt was that the referee didn't see it himself (asked assistants), otherwise would have been straight off without any mucking around. Probably won't get banned if they believe what Zidane was saying the Italian said. Just get an italian (or french if he said it in french) lip reader I say. Should be obvious.

As to the Italian player, then if the referee (or an assistant) had heard him say remarks that were racist and to do with terrorism then he would almost definitely got sent off too (and probably banned for quite a while).

What I cannot understand is how a player like Zidane let him get to him so easily. Fair enough, nasty comments, but he's doing it to wind him up and get him sent off. It's the world cup *final* for god sake. Win and you are famous to most of the population of the world. Practical immortality. People kill for less.

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Posted: 11th Jul 2006 23:54 Edited at: 11th Jul 2006 23:55
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Now you're just being sarcastic...

I must admit that French is fourth on my knowledge list, a long way behind Portuguese, English and Spanish (but still ahead of Italian, and I won't even go into my loose word German ehehe). Je comprends an petit peu, mais parlez - et sourtous ecrire - est malhereusement plus dificile.

Sorry for the mistakes back there... that was typed from the top of my head with no help from dictionaries or babelfish.

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Manticore Night
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Posted: 12th Jul 2006 06:30
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Your french is acctually alright, I was just making fun because "headbutt" and "you" aren't exactly french words.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2006 09:42
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Yeah, it was called humour

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Ok, Zidane talked today at French TV news. He said the Italian player have insulted his mother and sister so no racism. Materazzi have confirmed it. So, everything's fine. Player seems to be allowed to insult each others while playing football as nothing will be done against that dumb Italian.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2006 00:36
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MSN said his mother and sister was insulted. I'd do the same thing if he tried that crap. I support the headbutt!


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Posted: 13th Jul 2006 01:32
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Quote: "I support the headbutt!"

Me too - if the italian isn't big enough to accept the consiquences of his action then thats his problem. He should keep his stupid mouth shut.

I dont know what he said (I dont get Canal Plus and wouldn't understand it if I did) but if it was "Your mother is a terrorist whore" then something needs to be done. If you or I said it to a colleague or competitor we'd be sacked. I still believe Italy should lose the cup. Its a team sport and they have an idividual on the team who stoops so low to insult someone's mother. Do FIFA really want the picture of the best team in the world to contain someone like that? Its almost like someone being awared a "best driver in the world" prize just after running a young child down in a drink/driving incident (hypothetical).

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Posted: 13th Jul 2006 10:23 Edited at: 13th Jul 2006 10:26
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Yes. If they had evidence of this. Only Zidane apparently heard this, and you how could you believe him? I mean it's the world cup final. Anyone could be lying or cheating to get someone sent off. Also, in work, if you headbutted someone, even if they had a go about your sister and mother, I'm pretty damn sure you would be sacked too. Plus I know which one would be more likely to get arrested. Sticks and stones and all that.

Personally I think it's a teeny bit suspicious that on the last game of your career, during the most watched sporting event in the world (by far), that Zidane headbutts someone. I mean how amazingly infamous is he now? Yeah, he is a famous footballer, but this could potentially give him a far bigger profile. No PR is bad PR.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2006 18:55 Edited at: 13th Jul 2006 18:55
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Maybe this is his new hobby!



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Miguel Melo
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Posted: 13th Jul 2006 21:32
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I still believe Zidane should not get the Best Player award. Insulting someone is out of order, but everyone and their mothers (pun) does it in football. Headbutting someone in the chest is a physical assault and the way he did it, very dangerous indeed.

So, yeah, Meterazzi probably diserved that someone getting back at him and Zidane probably is entitled to not apologise. But he should then be prepared to lose the best player title. Because if insulting is bad sportsmanship, headbutting is worse. Simple as that.

It's a bit like "you should be entitled to direct porn movies, but you shouldn't be surprised that you are excluded from receiving a Academy Oscar".

But, maybe Zidane is trying for a new career. To be the next Vinnie "bad boy" Jones in french cinema, eh?

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Oh, how much I will laugh if there's an Italy/Portugal match at Euro 2008...

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Quote: "Oh, how much I will laugh if there's an Italy/Portugal match at Euro 2008..."


We'll also lose, don't worry.

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