Quote: "Have any of you deniers ever watched a girl(s) look through a fashion magazine? No seriously. They will obsess over the 6 packs, chiseled shoulders, chest, biceps, everything. So how on earth can someone actually say there is no kind of "standard" for attractive, when there is actual field evidence to prove it?"
I don't know what girls you see, but honestly, that is total nonsense. I've been growing up with girls a lot, simply because of my physique and stuff I never really fit with most lads, and most girls I know were obsessed with that kind of stuff when they were 9 or 10 years old, then fell in love with either Johnny Depp (yeah, particularly muscular type, really) or Orlando Bloom (cutey face!), finally they stop doing that, around the age of 18, and fall in love with whoever crosses their path and is friendly, loving, caring, confident and nice. Popular can help with certain types, though.
Nothing to do with abs, chest, biceps or crap. And if the reputation of the guy in such a glossy, magazine or whatever sexist crap they feed young girls nowaday, is he's an *sshole, or unfriendly, or not caring - they'll look at him, huff and say 'pff, loser'.
You, on the contrary, seem never to have spoken or understood girls in the slightest. Ask any girl that's not looking for one-night-stands what they want in a man, and they'll say friendly and caring first. Looks come third, or even fourth. The usual list goes along: friendly, caring, can make me laugh, romantic and good looking. Good looking, then, besides a minor point, is also personal. Most girls that say 'a hottie' end up as 'sluts', cheating from one to the next, sleeping with whomever offers first. Of course, that is 'most'.
Quote: "Not trying to put you down, but anyone can say whatever they want over the internet. I have met people who are unattractive, but have a certain charm to them. Since I don't know you in person, I can't tell. So you have no looks and you don't care about the condition of your body...in that case, the "girl" you got is probably right in your league."
Luckily, yes, she is perfectly in my league. Modest, friendly, caring and her looks aren't bad at all neither. Fits quite well with a loving, friendly and caring boyfriend. Doesn't seem anything near your league, based solely upon your forum postings - your 'league' would be, I'm sorry to say it, a derogatory *ss in this case.
And shortsighted, by the way. How is a girl in a league? You love a girl or not. Screw leagues. Screw it all. It's nothing about leagues. Love ain't a sport for me. There are no points. There is no league. You're happy with the one your with, that's all that counts.
If you want a picture, there was a topic in which we posted pictures of ourselves a while back. Me and my girlfriend are in that topic. Mind you, I did do my hair that day.
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